To those who think Micheal Jackson in a child molester:

[justy387]

please just watch the E! show right now at 9 EST.

I do not want to start a flame war by telling you how I really feel about Mr. Jackson's innocence. All I want to say is: watch the program with an open mind. See how weak the prosecution is. See how the witnesses of the prosecution are not credible. HOW CAN YOU CONVICT THE KING OF POP BY THE TESTIMONY OF A LYING, MONEY-HUNGRY FAMILY?!

WATCH THE TRIAL- 9 EST ON E!

[RockaFowler]

1. I agree

I am still going at this trial with an open mind. Plus it is way better than American Idol

[n2mark]

I'm not sold on his innocence, but I am not sold on his guilt

Just wonder if this all comes to $$$'s?

[HeyManThatsCool]

2. The King of Pop??????????

That is a self given title, & a rather lame one at that.

Obviously your an MJ fan. I'm not saying anything RE: guilt or innocence- but that title is ridiculous

[CatWoman]

17. regardless of your strong

um, conviction -- a lot of people disagree with you.

[CO Liberal]

92. It's Called "Facing Reality"

Which Michael Jackson's supporters refuse to do, IMHO.

[tjdee]

34. It is true, though.

Self given though it is, if Elvis "look at me, I shake my hips and sing bluesy like, which is sooo original NOT" Presley is the "King of Rock and Roll", Michael Jackson is absolutely the King of Pop.

His influence on pop music is undeniable--just ask Donny Osmond, Usher, and Justin Timberlake. To name a very few.

[HeyManThatsCool]

42. I guess in my view the "King of Pop" reigns no longer

Elvis only continued to be the "King" because he died.

[CO Liberal]

52. Michael's Nose Died,,,,,

...and he had it replaced several times.

[HeyManThatsCool]

55. true!!

lol

[-..__...]

60. More like the pauper of pop.

I have no real opinion about his guilt or innocence one way or another... I really don't care, nor do I have any interest in his trial.

If he is guilty of anything, it's for being one seriously messed up individual... and there's no crime against that.

However, in the end that could prove to be his undoing (Michael, your ass is on the line... do something about the hair, get rid of the make-up, forgo the flamboyant suits, armbands, designer sunglasses, etc. Juries notice and weigh these kind of oddities in their opinion).

One thing is for sure... if he is found guilty; he'll be found hanging from a bedsheet from his cell door within a week.

As far as the "King of Pop" goes... as a performer/artist, he's sub-par at best.

[silvermachine]

104. You said it for me...

eom

oops, meant to reply to Message #2, as in King of Pap, rather than King of Pop.

[Trajan]

3. I have no sympathy for Michael Jackson .....

Not a bit ....

[MADem]

4. I think he is guilty so I will skip the show

Also, I'm not on the jury, I'm not hearing the evidence, so what I have to say has no weight. I feel sorry for those children that he bought, who are forced to wear those veils. I think he is a sick fucker. But hey, everyone has a right to their own opinion....

[Mz Pip]

5. Just because his

accusers are flakes and idiots doesn't mean Jackson didn't do it. IMHO only a flake or an idiot would let their child visit Jackson in a sleepover unsupervised.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[HeyManThatsCool]

6. Mz Pip & I have the same opinion on that

The fuck if I'd let MY kids spend the night at his house.

[JimmyJazz]

8. You really do have to be dumb as a stump to let your kid spend the

night at his house, dontcha?

[JohnKleeb]

10. Yes anyone who lets their kids stay at a guy whos been accused

of pedophila's house is pretty dumb, I am sorry.

[blondeatlast]

29. I'd like to think dumb is all there is to it.

I'd like to, but I really can't anymore. What does it take, a brick wall to fall on their heads?

[JimmyJazz]

35. I'm not saying that Jackson is guilty - but pedophilias use

toys, video games, etc to lure kids into their "web" (for lack of a better word). Okay people - have we not all seen this guys house and yard???

Again, I'm not saying that he's guilty, but the red flag could not possibly be any bigger. I would never take that chance with my kids, no matter how famous the person is/was.

[Beaverhausen]

37. But remember he wasn't convicted before

so these parents were probably as blind to his guilt as other people are. They don't WANT to believe he would do it.

Sorry but I think he is guilty. Its a shame cause I also think he is one of the most talented guys around.

[blondeatlast]

44. True, but as the mom of an 8 year old boy, even the

mere talk would stop me from letting my son go there.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice--you know the rest.

The first kid's parents get a pass, after that, they bear more than a little responsibility.

[bilgewaterbill]

61. Dead on right there.

Makes you wonder if it was a set-up.

[Shakespeare]

121. He wasn't convicted because he was never tried the first time.

The first kid's family settled with him for $20 million. I also think he's guilty--and deeply, incredibly ill.

[Zuni]

83. unless they don't care

I read a book by the uncle of Jordan Chandler, the 1st kid to bring charges against MJ---MJ basically bought the kids by giving the parents piles of cash, jewelry and fantastic vacations

[mondo joe]

100. Of course that's whhy pedophiles go after vulnerable kids

in vulnerable families - just like Jackson has.

[Mz Pip]

13. These people have zero

common sense. I haven't been following the trial but I remember seeing that segment on 60 Minutes or some such show where Jackson talked about how "beautiful" it was to sleep with children. I found the comment profoundly creepy.

I always thought Jackson was a gifted performer but a very troubled adult. Very troubled. I don't know what these parents thought when they allowed their kid to sleepover but how could they not have had just a few warning bells go off in their heads? Perhaps they were dazzled by his stardom.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Beaverhausen]

40. He made that comment holding the accusers hand

ewwwwwwwww!!!!!

[blondeatlast]

49. Yikes--I had forgotten that. You're right.

I really would like to believe he's innocent, but as I say, my son is 8, and the entire thing is so sordid.

It's bad enough if Jackson molested them, but if the parents didn't try to stop it, that's worse still, and regardless of his guilt or innocence, that those kids have to go through a PUBLIC (regardless of whether it's meant to be or not) trial is just too horrible for this mom to consider.

[blondeatlast]

26. That's the entire issue in a nutshell.

If he does get off, any parent who lets their kids got to Neverland is neglectful at least, and something else at worst.

The only innocents in this train wreck are the kids.

[ret5hd]

7. PLEASE WATCH THE LATEST DISTRACTION FROM THINGS THAT MATTER!!!!

[justy387]

9. OH MY GOODNESS!!

The brother of the accused just admitted that he has lied before under oath!! The case is over. Jackson will be found not guilty!

To those postings your opposition of Mr. Jackson without any support, please do not do so. I would like a serious thread for those wishing to comment on the trial as it is being shown on E! show. Just like during the political debates and other important events of this magnitude- I would like a thread to connect with others while the trial is in progress.

Thanks.

[CatWoman]

15. and thank you

I get so sick of the "fry the bastard" mentality.

[JimmyJazz]

24. No matter what the outcome of the case, I would highly

suggest you channel your energy and enthusiasm into a more worthy cause. No offense, but the guy is serious strange (as is his entire family) and can you say "has been?"

Seriously, there are people in this world much more worth your admiration. IMHO.

[CO Liberal]

54. E! Is Hardly a Valid News Source

Can't you find anything more credible????

[justy387]

59. E! re-enacts the trial using the EXACT TRIAL TRANSCRIPT!

My conclusion was not based on their analysis, but on the unfolding events at the trial. The brother of the alleged victim was torn apart by Jackson's shrewed lawyer's questions.

[CO Liberal]

67. I Still Say They're Not Credible

And your King of Pop is going DOWN.......

[justy387]

76. They are credible!

They USE THE EXACT TRANSCRIPT TO RE-ENACT THE TRIAL. It's a fact.

[CO Liberal]

77. And Michael Jackson is a Perverted Child Molester

That is also a fact, whether or not you choose to believe it.

[Zuni]

80. Amen.

I think it is quite obvious that this man has inappropriate relationships with children.

[mondo joe]

99. Ka-ching

The BEST anyone could sayy of Jackson is that he has dangerous inapppropriate and exploitive relationships with vulnerable children.

[CO Liberal]

112. Concerning "Exact Transcripts"

There was a show on briefly a few years ago - I forget the name of it - that used exact passages from the scripts of classic sitcoms, yet the actors actes out the scenes in totally different settings that drasitcally changed the way the words were perceived.

Face it - you're idol is gonna fry......

[CO Liberal]

93. "other important events of this magnitude"

In the grand scheme of things, the Michael Jackson trial is totally insignificant. He'll be found guilty, sent to prison, and the inmates will have a field day with your "King of Pop".

[Beware the Beast Man]

11. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread.

:eyes:

[blondeatlast]

33. You can say that again--and you did.

Even if inadvertently! :evilgrin:

[Beware the Beast Man]

12. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread.

:eyes:

[jpgray]

14. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread.

Always wanted to do that to someone with an unintentional dupe.

[CatWoman]

16. me too

:P

At least it's not another damn Oasis thread"

:D

[JohnKleeb]

19. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread

Hi guys :).

[progmom]

46. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread

You know I agree with that sentiment!

[JohnKleeb]

48. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread

Hi progmom :D.

[progmom]

50. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread

Hi John! Are you having a good day? I just got back from a yummy meal at a sushi place!

[JohnKleeb]

51. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread

Hi yeah doing great, I had a community college orientation that I went to today, and for once, I felt good about going to community college. It was nice, ran in to some people from school and even took part in a sample college class, college is gonna be so fun :).

[progmom]

57. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread

I started off in community college - we had just moved back to the states from Europe and didn't know in advance what state we were going to be moving to. I ended up deciding to stay there for two years - this community college had a great jazz band and some really good professors.

It's nothing to be ashamed of at all.

[JohnKleeb]

58. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread

Yeah its cool. Why were you living in Europe? thats too cool. Yeah I am going to like the second biggest community college in the country, used to bother me but after the tour today, I feel proud that I am at least doing that.

[progmom]

64. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread

I went to high school in Europe - my whole family moved to Holland for my dad's job. It was a cool coincidence that he got transferred there, since that is where my mom was born, and I still have a ton of family over there.

[JohnKleeb]

65. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread

I hear Holland is awesome. Yeah I have some family in europe too still on my mom's side.

[salin]

20. But you know...

it could always be hijacked to become another d*mn Oasis thread...

[JohnKleeb]

22. You know guys, Ive never heard Oasis

:shrug: Ive been told by some I am lucky.

[salin]

36. my nephew once claimed... they were the next beatles

I laughed and said that Milli Vanilli once said the same things about themselves... we giggled at the time until their lip syncing became public... then we roared with laughter... 'til one of the two members committed suicide.. now its just sad. Don't know much about Oasis - but the story always comes to mind per the comparison...

[jpgray]

25. This will attract LoZoccolo

Ahem:

Thriller sold way more copies than most of Oasis's catalogue combined.

[JohnKleeb]

27. At least its not another damn Oasis thread

I didnt know that about Thriller btw.

[Dave Reynolds]

18. Only the jury

will be able to decide that.

[Shakespeare]

122. Yup, but it's a free country, and we're all welcome to have an opinion. nt

[Swede]

21. He did it,but will probably get away with it.

Too bad.

[Chicago Democrat]

23. I am convinced he will be aquitted.

Whatever happened seems fairly innocuous. I mean, he really did sleep on the floor! I think Michael is being targeted....

I hope he gets a fair trial.

[Beware the Beast Man]

At least it's not another damn Oasis thread.

[Beware the Beast Man]

At least it's not another damn Oasis thread.

[Beware the Beast Man]

28. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread.

[CatWoman]

31. but it IS an Oasis thread

:P

[JohnKleeb]

32. at least it's not another damn Oasis thread

[JohnKleeb]

30. By request of JimmyJazz

[JimmyJazz]

38. Hey!

:spank:


You were supposed to use this one:

[JohnKleeb]

41. I told you in PM I didnt have the link

Remember? oh well I am gonna go get some clam strips and cream puffs.

[kwassa]

39. Did Michael Jackson molest Oasis?

[JohnKleeb]

43. Apparently

poor Noel Gallagher :D.

[salin]

45. Nah... someone just claimed the "Thrill"er had been

taken away from Oasis... oh what is a thread to do?

[CO Liberal]

47. Simple

Weigh the evidence. All the evidence.

If he's guilty, he's guilty.

And I tend to believe (based on what I've seen and read so far) that he's guilty.

[steve2470]

53. At the bare minimum, he's guilty of VERY POOR judgement

Damn, he's my age, and I like kids too. But gee willikers, he's crazy. Crazy like a pedophile, to me.

[Skittles]

62. he needs to stay away from children

and the parents who allow their children to stay with him should be investigated for their poor judgement

[BensMom]

56. the Nose

What is really going on with his nose?

[Quixote1818]

63. I never thought he was guilty. He seems like an honest but wierd person

I would be surprised if he is convicted based on the suspicious history of the people who brought this forward. He would have paid them off under the table if it were true.

[justy387]

66. To those who laugh at me and belittle this thread b/c of my support for MJ

It's OK!

I know that defending Mr. Jackson is not an easy task. We were told by the media that Mr. Jackson is a dangerous man. We are told to laugh at him. You all who dismiss Jacko as Whacko, are not entirely to blame. Although this site is a progressive site, in which we search for the truth, too many are not cognizant about the anti-Jackson MSM.

The truth is that Mr. Jackson is guilty. Guilty of caring for young, sick kids. Mr. Jackson can be like the other celebrities and spend his money on bling, and party at trendy clubs. Mr. Jackson is different. He decided to spend his money and time to provide sick children with amazing experiences at Neverland. Mr. Jackson has a great deal of compassion for people, including young people. I believe that Mr. Jackson may have been, by societal standards, inappropriately close to the young man. Mr. Jackson probably now realizes that. He hugged the accuser, and allowed him to sleep in his bed. Mr. Jackson never had sexual intercourse with the accuser. He never touched his private parts. I just don't believe it. I don't. I am 100% certain he will be acquitted from the charges. The DA had chutzpah to bring Jackson to trial with such weak evidence. The family of the accuser is doing the prosecution no favors by being on the stand. They have lied before. The kids have been told to lie. This sick family is trying to exploit Jackson's celebrity and money.

I have been scoffed for defending Jackson. I have been told he is a kook. Even Skinner laughs at any discussion about Mr. Jackson. In fact, I wish that I could post this discussion in LBN or GD for more serious talk. However, I am ashamed to say, Skinner wrote "We have standards." I am so sad that a "progressive" site would label a decent human being as strange and even worse. There are so many unsubstantiated accusations in this thread! Jackson is being victimized for being different. People are too afraid to defend him against these ludicrous charges, because he is different. I want to share this poem with you:

http://www.telisphere.com/~cearley/sean/camps/first.html
First They Came for the Jews by Pastor Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

This poem is very fitting. In the past, we were too afraid to come out and save "undesirables" because we felt they were not worthy of being saved. We thought that we need not worry about the others getting victimized by the state, because "we" are still safe. What happened? In the end, even the author of this poem was abused by the system. Nobody that the author felt that he was worthy of saving was around!! I see the same pattern. Jackson is unique. He doesn't care that he doesn't fit into a neat place in society. However, everyone else including progressives are treating Jackson as sub-human. No matter that he has done tremendous charity work. No matter that he has provided love to other "undesirables" in society including cancer patients. Because Jackson is different, we are willing to let him be victimized by the over-zealous government. The case against Mr. Jackson is as weak as any that I have ever seen. That does not matter. Mr. Jackson is the new punching bag of society.

Nobody is willing to stand up for him.

Except for me.

God Bless and God Bless Mr. Jackson!!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

68. Celebrity worship is blind.

[justy387]

69. I'm not worshiping him. I'm just stating my opinion.

[CO Liberal]

126. And We're Just Trying to Show You.....

...why your opinion seems to be divorced from reality.

[Shakespeare]

123. Michael Jackson is not a victim.

He's a very wealthy celebrity who's only gotten off this long because of his fame and his money.

[UTUSN]

70. Oh. Thought the-------LYING, MONEY-HUNGRY FAMILY--Were the JACKSONs n/t

[justy387]

71. No they are not. The Jackson family is a family of love and philanthropy.

The family that is accusing Mr. Jackson of these charges has a history of abusing the system for financial gain.

[BlackVelvetElvis]

72. Then why did Joe beat the crap out of his kids when they were growing up?

[mondo joe]

96. You mean love of money and cosmetic surgery

The BEST thing you could say about Jackson is that he MERELY endangers kids.

[radwriter0555]

73. Okay. You go ahead and let YOUR boy children sleep in the same bed

as a grown man who has had plastic surgery to make himself look like Peter Pan.

Go for it.

Would you?

Because the only parents I know that would permit it are mentally ill.

[justy387]

75. To answer you, I would not allow my kids to share a bed with Mr. Jackson.

eom

[radwriter0555]

110. Why NOT?

If you completely trust that he did nothing to those children, why wouldn't you trust him with your children?

[tyedyeto]

74. And who the f* cares? Unless they watch Faux News...... n/t

[WoodrowFan]

78. Jermaine! Is that you??? (NT)

[msanthrope]

131. Tito--it's Tito.....n/t

[huellewig]

79. Sorry, I don't watch TV about TV.

So let me get this right. Go into this show about TV with a open mind. And you polish it of with "HOW CAN YOU CONVICT THE KING OF POP BY THE TESTIMONY OF A LYING, MONEY-HUNGRY FAMILY?!" Before you tell me to open my mind you should give it a try. I can do the moonwalk too. Do you need a babysitter?

[Misunderestimator]

81. At least it's not a damn Josh Grobin Thread!

[WoodrowFan]

82. I think Jackson IS Josh Grobin.

[Redstone]

84. No, he's not, he's Diana Ross.

Redstone

[CO Liberal]

87. I Read An Account A While Back.....

...of Diana Ross talking to some of her associates about Michael Jackson. Miss Ross wondered out loud what Michael was doing to his face.

One of her people said, "He's trying to look like you."

To which Miss Ross replied, "I look like THAT??"

[WoodrowFan]

88. didn't they appear TOGETHER in "The Wiz"?

do he CAN'T be Diana Ross, unless they're CIA-created CLONES made with alien technology controlled by FEMA and his skin tone is the result of chem-trails.

[NorthernSpy]

85. sometimes, the Scottish verdict of "Not Proved" seems more fitting...

... than the stark choice between Guilty and Not Guilty that our own justice system offers.

On the one hand, I suppose that nearly everyone has severe reservations about Jackson's conduct with minors. On the other hand, the case against him stinks: the accusers are known to have made threats of legal action against other parties in hope of getting money; are known to have made false claims of abuse in other cases; and so far, the testimony given has been self-contradictory.

[CO Liberal]

86. There Was Enough Eviidence of Inappropriate Action.....

...on Jackson's part in the recent BBC documentary (which I believe was shown on ABC's "20/20") to convince virtually anyone except the most ardent Jackson supporter that Michael Jackson is guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[WoodrowFan]

89. he's a Godly man

but, he's a godly man who's poop has no odor!

[CO Liberal]

91. Funny You Should Mention "Godly"

I know several women who were molested in their youths. And most of them were molested by men who were very active in their churches.

[NorthernSpy]

94. huh? I'm not a "Jackson supporter"!

The man creeps me out bigtime, and I have little use for the cult that surrounds him, either.

The thing is, he must be convicted or not only on the basis of the evidence presented in the case. If the witnesses are not reliable and credible, then conviction would be inappropriate.

Them's the beans, friend.

[CO Liberal]

98. I Wasn't Referring to You As a "Jackson Supporter, NS

I was referring to those with their heads in the sand, who cannot accept that their "king of Pop" is a child molester.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

90. At least it's not another damn Oasis thread

[sniffa]

95. he's a fucked up diddLer

he may get off again (heLL, he's been getting off with LiL boys for years) but if he doesn't, i hope gets put in GP and not the fancy ceLLs for ceLebrities.

when he gets to prison they'LL make him remove his shoes, Laces, beLt, armband and nose.

[CO Liberal]

97. Here Are Some REAL Facts For You, justy387

Courtesy of CNN. Underlining emphasis mine:

* * * * *

Accuser says he was 'hypnotized' by Jackson

Teenager accusing singer of molestation recalls first meeting

Thursday, March 10, 2005 Posted: 5:31 AM EST (1031 GMT)

SANTA MARIA, California (CNN) -- The teenager at the center of Michael Jackson's child molestation trial said in court Wednesday that he was "kind of hypnotized" by the pop star after meeting him while undergoing chemotherapy treatment for cancer.

"I thought he was the coolest guy in the world," the teen, now 15, told jurors in Jackson's child molestation trial.

The teenager's testimony marked the first time he faced Jackson in court. He will return to the stand when the trial resumes Thursday morning.

<snip>

The teen testified that on his very first visit to Neverland Ranch, it was Jackson who suggested that he and his younger brother sleep in Jackson's bedroom in the main residence, rather than in a guesthouse where their parents and sister were staying.

<snip>

He testified that Jackson also coached him on what to say during an interview with Martin Bashir, the British journalist who made a controversial 2003 television documentary about the pop star.

The accuser said Jackson told him that the interview would be his "audition" for a movie career and urged him to call Jackson "daddy" and tell Bashir that he "pretty much had cured me of cancer."

<SNIP>

During his testimony Wednesday, the accuser said he was 13 when Jackson molested him two years ago at the pop star's Neverland Ranch in Santa Barbara County. Jackson has denied the charges.

Jackson was indicted in April by a state grand jury on 10 felony counts for incidents that allegedly occurred in February and March 2003. The charges include four counts of committing a lewd act on a child; one count of conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion; one count of attempting to commit a lewd act on a child; and four counts of administering an intoxicating agent to assist in the commission of a felony.

Jackson has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/09/jackson.trial.accuser/index.html

[Divameow77]

124. Not saying I think Jackson is innocent or guilty but,

You are referring to testimony as facts, and that is not fact. He could be lying, he could be telling the truth, we can't say for sure.

[CO Liberal]

125. Since The Penalties for Perjury Are Rather Severe.....

...I don't think the kid is lying.

[Divameow77]

127. That could be true but

plenty of people (kids & adults) have lied in court amd money is quite a big motivator to lie and there is always civil court next.
Jackson is weird and always has been, if he did this then the parents of that boy should be charged with child endangerment at the least.

[WI_DEM]

101. if found guilty or innocent, I believe Jackson's career is over

and he has himself to blame for it. At best he has used extremely bad judgement with children over the years and at worst he is a child molester. I don't think he will ever recover.

[WoodrowFan]

102. did he still HAVE a career?? (NT)

[CO Liberal]

103. Ask Sony Records

I think they consider him a liability nowadays....

[ScreamingMeemie]

105. I know he still pulls in the big bucks for them overseas.

Which would still be worth it for Sony. :hi:

[CO Liberal]

106. But Didn't His Last Album Tank Here At Home?

:shrug:

[Zuni]

107. Yep. Then he said it was because of racism

and had a rally with Al Sharpton. I like Sharpton, but he lost a lot of credibility with me by supporting Jackson's utterly bizarre claims.

If record companies discriminated against him, why would he have the top selling album of all time?

Simply, the man is a freak, his music has sucked for 20 years and he has innappropriate relationships with young boys.
That is why his records failed

[CO Liberal]

109. Exactly

[CO Liberal]

120. How Could It Be Because of Racism....

...if you can't tell what race he is any more? :shrug:

[Lex]

108. Psychiatric Interview with Jackson's First Accuser

.
Sounds truthful to me:

http://courttv.aol.com/news/jackson/docs/psychiatric.html?page=1

[Bertha Venation]

111. Justy, why do you keep starting these POS flame wars?

Who cares? Honestly, who actually has a life-changing stake in this trial but the parties?

In my opinion, that you continue to harp on this is bullshit.

[CO Liberal]

114. Thank You, Bertha

Well put.

:-)

[Bertha Venation]

116. It farking boggles my mind, CO Lib.

It really does.

BTW (what a great thread to hijack) how's Princess?

[CO Liberal]

118. I'll PM You

[CO Liberal]

113. Here's More Proof Of Jackson's "Innocence"

From the top of MSNBC, web page:

BREAKING NEWS - NBC: Warrant issued for Michael Jackson, effective in one hour, after he fails to show up at trial

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

Now I ask you - would an innocent man not show up at a trial that would prove his innocence, or would a guilty man skip out on a trial that would prove him guilty???

[kwassa]

115. Why exactly is Oasis on trial? Who did they molest, again?

[CO Liberal]

117. Each Other

:-)

[Dukkha]

119. their fans with their crappy music

and they are GUILTY!

[CanuckAmok]

128. I tend to think he is...based on precedent, not "gut instinct"

We have to remember that Jackson is not alone in this situstion. He is, and alwas has been surrounded by managers, handlers, and very expensive lawyers, all who have a vested interest in keeping Jackson't reputation intact.

The first time around, it was these handlers not Jackson, who decided the best course of action was to choose an out-of-court settlement.

Let's examine the thought processes which would cause these handlers to choose this option:


Choice A: Jackson and accuser go to trial. The cons of this option are that there could be evidence conclusive enough to convict Jackson, and open him up to both criminal and civil action, clsting hundreds of millions of dollars, including potential court-awarded damages to the accuser(s). The pros of this option are that, if Jackson is truly not guilty of his alleged molestation, it will be very difficult to prove otherwise. His reputation could be destroyed if guilty, but completely redeemed if found innocent. If he is awarded costs of this action, the financial price he pays to go through the legal system is relatively insignificant.

Choice B: Out of court settlement: The cons are that it will generally be accepted by the public at large that Jackson has something to hide, and that's why he has opted to buy his way out of court. He opens himself to future similar accusations, by establishing a dangerous precedent that he's willing to pay out accusers who (may) have no legitimate claim of abuse. The pros of this option are that his out-of-court settlemetn is a finite amount, and it is likely considerably less than his legal team projects the court would award the accuser(s). Anothe rpro is that much of his private life, such as it is, is not exposed to the public.


It's clear to me, not as a legal expert, but a law "hobbyist", that the decision to settle in the original case was made by experts who weighed the evidence, wanted to avoid any 'surprise' evidence held in the oppositions 'solicitor's brief', a lack of confidence in the reliability of Jackson's testimony, and calculated an amount that would be less than a civil trial award. Also, it avoided criminal investigation. If they were condident in Jackson's innocence, they would WANT a criminal investigation, to clear their client once and for all.

I, personally, believe he may not be a serial pederast, per se, but that he has had inappropriate contact with children, as much as 'inappropriate' is defined by community standards.

[CO Liberal]

129. Ah, Justy387, We Hardly Knew Ye......

Buh-bye!!!! :hi:

[Zuni]

130. A real creepy troll has died today....

[WoodrowFan]

132. I still think it was one of the other Jackson brothers

they're not too busy. Might even had been (hushed voice) Latoya.

[SoCalDem]

133. Quack!

:)

[Blue-Jay]

134. justy bought some granite.

Don't reply to it anymore, OK?

[Tektonik]

135. This is a crappy funeral procession; where are the refreshments?

:shrug: