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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 12:59 PM Original message |
Isn't the word "actress" outdated and sexist, anyways? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. it's all horseshit |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 01:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I Still Refer To Flight Attendants as "Stewardess". |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. If Slinkerwink were here, she could straighten this all out for us. |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. ha what ever happened to her? |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Got fed up with all the bitching, I think |
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CanuckAmok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. No, she's here in my silk-panelled love den... |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. I thought you two didnt get along |
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CanuckAmok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
55. Never underestimate the power of firm, corrective but loving discipline! |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
89. whatever man, I just remember you two fighting one night |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Ah. She finally learned her place. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. Allow me... Or shall I just call male flight attendants stewardesses? |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:25 PM Original message |
Not to my sister you wouldn't. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
59. that's ridiculous.. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
66. I call them "air mattresses". |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
102. I think they really prefer 'Jet bunny' |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. Well, no....because "actor" isn't supposed to have a |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
98. Wouldn't "acter" be 'one who acts'? |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 05:08 PM Response to Reply #98 |
122. Not if you want to spell it correctly. |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. From now on we'll just call them "acting persons" or we could just |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. thespians? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. that's because his wife might be a closet thesbian |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. very good point |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I like thesbians |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
34. Well you know, "actor" does work fine. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. hahahahahahahaha |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Consider taking a moment... |
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calico1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. Well then maybe women should be called |
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WMliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. but wouldn't that make calling men "men" sexist too? |
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DrGonzoLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. No, it's "womyn" now |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. Yeah, but it's not just the show, IMO. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
11. Yes, it's outdated. We don't call female doctors "doctresses," do we? |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. dentistes, veterinariannes! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Astrophysicistesses |
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WMliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. "Prime Ministresses" |
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baba (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. For the Oscars. |
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LilKim (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Nope, still actress |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
56. Nope, I think you're thinking of the SAG awards. |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. Do you feel that the Romance languages should make all of their nouns |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Um |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
74. Why is that so "silly"? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
85. Because it is! |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. English isn't a romance language. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Is stodginess antithetical to being a democrat / left leaning type person? |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Curmudgeonliness? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. hehehehehehe |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. And I'm just the smart aleck for the job. |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
70. I'm confused by a few things in your response |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:48 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Should we add descriptors for race? |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. I don't see why you're confused. |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
73. And in regards to the roots of English |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I've already answered that question, but I'll go into more detail. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. Software Engineeresses |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Mechanicesses, |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Presidentesses and Senatorinas |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Representativessess, |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
46. I dated an actor 20+ years ago |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Am I the only person |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I agree with you on the Title of the show... I think it is meant as yet |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Yay! We agree! |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. That's what I was thinking! |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. No, you're right. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Precisely. |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:11 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Isn't the sex of the actor usually pretty integral to the point of |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:12 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. No. The gender of the actor is germane to the *role* he or she plays, but |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:21 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. You're missing the point. |
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Magrittes Pipe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
22. I prefer the term "actron." |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. hahahahahahahahah |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. Wheeeee! |
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LilKim (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
23. I have a problem in general with people trying to rewrite the language |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Yes, thank goodness for regressive backlashes against stuff we don't like. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Nobody's rewriting the language, LilKim. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. Language is rewritten every day |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. Language evolves. We aren't still speaking like our colonial |
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jdots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
27. does this go back to the days when all actors were male ? |
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CanuckAmok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
31. All the paperwork we use now uses the neutral "performer" tag. |
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Ivan Sputnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
37. Not really |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
81. 'actor' is gender neutral too so i don't understand your point... |
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Ivan Sputnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 05:26 PM Response to Reply #81 |
127. Not the newspaper story, |
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Magrittes Pipe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
48. We wouldn't have this problem if we'd never given women the right to act. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
50. Actress, stweardess, poetess. Doesn't bother me as a woman as a bit. I |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. They don't make me angry per se, but I can't help seeing the stupid. |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
83. "Man" is not gender neutral in normal everyday language.... |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:52 PM Response to Reply #83 |
111. One of the lawyers who posts here said she was once referred to |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
54. It's setting back the Proper Naming of Female Actors Movement a decade |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. hahahahaha |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. That's what I'm on about! |
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Borgnine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
57. It's ridiculous. |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
76. Actress is perfectly acceptable. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:09 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Now tell my why it's relevant. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:26 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. Copy Editors, for one |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:28 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Copy Editoress' too? |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Editress isn't a word. |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. really? |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. I have it showing up in one of six dictionaries I looked at. |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. Why isn't is used in common language? |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #104 |
113. Probably because it's not euphonious |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. But "actor" isn't gendered either. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #88 |
120. The AP blue book (and others like it) are continually updated. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 05:16 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. Perhaps you are |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 05:19 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Sorry, you're correct. I'm responding to Lone Pawn. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #124 |
129. Indeed. I myself |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #77 |
119. well |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #119 |
125. That, too, is on the way out. |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 05:24 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. I don't argue that it's necessary |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:12 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. It is to some... especially females |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #79 |
91. I'm just using strict English. |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. I agree with you on "chairman" and the like, in that |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. It is not at all the same as the word "niggardly" which has nothing to |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:45 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. -ess isn't a diminutive. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. You and I will not agree on this. I am a woman... and I find the gender- |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:50 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. "-or" is not added to make a "male noun." |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. Thank you. Very succinctly put. |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #105 |
116. Really! Do you call female doctors "doctoress"? |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:46 PM Response to Reply #99 |
106. There is a diminutive term for female singer. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #106 |
115. Yes, you're right.... Can you imagine calling a male singer a "songster?" |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. It reminds me of a discussion my mother had with her newsgroup. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. A prime example... I guess the word would be "tailor" for which there |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. niggardly isn't 'banned.' I've hear/read people use it even after the |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. to some it is. otherwise, this thread won't have been made... |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. Yes, to some it is offensive. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:41 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. Feel free to ignore minority protests |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. That certainly isn't what I meant by minority. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:52 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. I believe that much more than 5% of the population is offended. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #107 |
128. I know what you meant by minority. |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. Saying that something is 'gay' is generally accepted too... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #76 |
87. IMO it's stupid. |
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Jeff in Cincinnati (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
86. Only when use in reference to Arnold Schwarzenegger... |
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