I respectfully ask you to stop mocking fat people

[ProudToBeLiberal]

Especially with these pictures which are posted to have a good laugh. Well it's not funny. Especially when one posts these fat pictures for the sole purpose of illiciting a humorous outburst.

edit- I took the person name out because it's against the rules, but you know who you are.

second edit-these are the post I'm refering to

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2724628

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2725356

[benburch]

1. Where did he do that?

If so, I'm not happy with it.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

2. here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2724628

and here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2725356

[benburch]

3. That *is* upsetting.

:(

[Misunderestimator]

51. Out of context, it could be misconstrued... however, it was a copycat ...

thread making fun of a thread picturing beautiful, nude women. If this had been a skinny man or a well-built man, wearing what the man in the picture was wearing and in such a position, it would have been just as funny. This was not about him being overweight.

[Fenris]

4. Regardless of what he did, calling someone out is illegal on DU.

[benburch]

9. How is this "Calling Out"?

Doesn't fit the definition whatsoever.

[Fenris]

13. The OP put his name in the subject line.

Before he removed it. It was meant to attack someone who did something he disagreed with. He should have handled this via PM, but chose to take it into the public forum.

[benburch]

20. No, calling out is something like;

"JoeBlowDem is a Freeper!"

Not "BenBurch, please stop calling Bush a Nazi, thanks!"

[Fenris]

36. "Do not start a new discussion thread with the purpose of "calling out"

another member or picking a fight with another member."

The OP posted this to make accusations about a person he didn't like from another thread. He called him out, because his intent was to air a matter between them publicly - whether or not the target new there was a disagreement or not.

[Fridays Child]

Exactly. He outed himself by publicly posting the photos.

And I am amazed that anyone thinks that the pictures qualify as humor or that the person who posted them deserves the courtesy of a private confrontation.

[Bouncy Ball]

41. The courtesy of?

How about, it's in the rules not to call people out?

Damn, you'd think people would know this by now.

[BikeWriter]

5. Did he post my picture? If he did I'll #### his #### in a ##### and #####!

[Bouncy Ball]

6. Why not PM him???

[ProudToBeLiberal]

7. Because he took the mocking to a public forum

so I responded publicly

[Bouncy Ball]

10. Sigh....

come on, just PM the guy if it bothers you.

And like Fenris said, we aren't supposed to call people out.

Also, there's that little alert button. That's what it's for. The mods can decide from there.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

12. it's also against the rules to say that you alerted someone

so...

[Bouncy Ball]

15. Ug. You don't have to SAY you alerted on him.

But the thing is, if something really bothers you that much, and you do think it's alertable, then hit the button! You don't have to say or even hint that you did it.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

19. well I'm saying I already did that.

:shrug:

[Bouncy Ball]

25. Then what's the problem?

Do you see a rash of fat people pictures on here or only one person doing it?

If it's just one person, then hit alert (as you did), send them a PM if you feel so moved, and then let the moderators look at your alerts and the person's posts.

If you get no satisfaction that way, post about it in the ATA forum. If no satisfaction, email Skinner directly.

A lot of ways to handle this, but this wasn't it.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

30. let me reitterate he posted in a public forum

A lot of people saw what he did. I''m just expressing a segment of the population who would disagree with him. Don't shoot the messenger.

[Bouncy Ball]

35. And let me reiterate.

Unless several people are doing it, I don't see why you don't just use the procedures given to us by the administrators of this website. Fenris was right--we aren't supposed to call people out. It leads to all KINDS of flame wars, no matter who's right or wrong.

Nothing in the DU rules says "if it was posted in a public forum, you can call them out publicly."

You might want to ask about this in ATA. But here it's only going to cause a flame fest. Anyone who has posted here for a while surely knew that....

[ProudToBeLiberal]

37. an open dialogue is benneficial for the community

I think it allows people to express their opinions in a orderly fashion without holding it inside.

[Bouncy Ball]

39. And AGAIN why don't you mention this

in the ATA forum, if you want to rewrite the DU rules so much???

[ProudToBeLiberal]

42. umm i never advocated a rule change

I'm confused...Can you tell me what rule you want to change and I'll think about it.

[Bouncy Ball]

46. I don't want any rules changed.

But you obviously aren't willing to follow the one about not calling people out.

[CatWoman]

8. Leave Tru alone!!!

he just has a wicked sense of humor.

You're doing more damage to the situation by posting this thread.

DU mail and email works, you know.

[salin]

50. hehe.. read your subject line

and had to giggle... as if Tru needs anyone to defend him... ye great flame thrower in need of some candle wick snuffers? *still giggling... love tru - but he is most entertaining when dishing back.. or digging a hole from which he will need to dish back*

:hi:

[CatWoman]

55. lololololol

I luvs me some Tru -- he's such a jerk, but a good, funny jerk :hi:

[Misunderestimator]

56. Truer words were ne'er spoken.

:hi:

[sundog]

11. Here we go

:nuke:

[meganmonkey]

17. Yup!

[sundog]

47. how do you say...

tinderbox?

Oy... a little gas, a little match... I'm verklempt

[ikojo]

14. As a fat person I thank you for posting this

Proud to be Liberal.

It is my hope that no one on DU would post a pic demeaning of black people. Why is it OK to make fun of fat people in this manner?

[CatWoman]

18. I'm fat, and I'm black

and I make fun of everybody!!!!!!!

[Fenris]

21. ROFL.

:thumbsup::hi:

[CatWoman]

23. LOL

:hi:

[ProudToBeLiberal]

22. that doesn't give you the authority to demean other people

perhaps yourself, but judging people and mocking them for being fat is just plain wrong.

[CatWoman]

26. na, na, na boo boo

:P

[name not needed]

32. HEZBOLLAH!!!!1

[CatWoman]

33. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:D

[Misunderestimator]

64. NOOooooo .... You DIDN'T just say that!!

:bounce:

[RetroLounge]

29. Lighten up Francis

RL

[Bluebear]

28. I thought you were white.

And old.

[CatWoman]

31. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

my evil twin if white and old. :D

the good twin is black and middle-aged :D

[Misunderestimator]

61. And I think I love you...

:loveya: :D

[Misunderestimator]

59. He won't defend himself, because it's not his style, so I will...

His thread was NOT meant to degrade overweight people. Consider that it was a copycat thread meant to make men look ridiculous... That man would have looked ridiculous in that pic if he was fat, thin, average or gorgeous.

Maybe we need disclaimers with copycat threads... :shrug:

[RetroLounge]

16. Yawn...

:eyes:

RL

[ProudToBeLiberal]

24. perhaps a good nap will make you umm more

alert?

[benburch]

27. It is a tempest in a teapot...

But upsetting to those of us who have been fat or those who are still fat.

[democracyindanger]

34. You should alert on the Numa Numa dance request too

'Cause that guy's, you know, fat.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

38. I'm not aware of this situation

was the sole purpose of the post was to mock fat people? Can you post a link thanks

[democracyindanger]

44. No, but neither was the thong post

[ProudToBeLiberal]

57. what are you trying to say? it wasn't only the thong post

look at like the third thread of this thread. I posted the links.

[Goldmund]

40. Can I ask you a question

and don't scoff just because it seems like it's obvious, but sit back and answer this frankly:

How do you know those pictures are funny solely because they display "fat" people?

[Bouncy Ball]

43. Personally I thought one of them was funny

because the guy was wearing a thong and workboots. The juxtaposition of those two things, plus his near nakedness, was the funny part to me.

(I know your question wasn't directed to me, but I thought I'd answer.)

[Goldmund]

54. that's kind of what I was getting at.

Sure, his body shape has to do with why the picture is funny because it's a part of the whole context. But I think that there are many unspoken assumptions in extrapolating those pictures into an offense to fat people.

[Bok_Tukalo]

45. What's the big deal with everyone? Seems like a reasonable request.

<eom>

[Goldmund]

60. Oh, of course

I find it interesting, honestly -- that's all. I think it's interesting to try to figure this out.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

49. first look at how the orginal poster

capitalizes certain words. like GORGEOUS etc. Then look at the replies that have responses like ROFL or LOL.

[Kire]

53. do you have an alternative?

If choice A is the display of fat people, what would be choice B or C.

And if you ask someone if you can ask them a question, now don't scoff, it is impolite to ask them that question before waiting for permission to do so.

[Goldmund]

58. I guess I'm impolite.

On a more important note, those people weren't just fat.

They also had funny outfits, they were in funny poses, they had dark hair, etc, etc. There's a whole lot of information in that picture. Why pick out that one bit as the main determinant of the impression of the picture?

[Misunderestimator]

48. Oh come on!! That picture was funny because it was a near naked man

in a g-string looking stupid, and it was a copycat thread whose original was a bunch of beautiful nude women. That's all it was.

[realisticphish]

62. no

because it was a FAT guy wearing a gstring. just a guy wouldnt have been funny on any level

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[Bouncy Ball]

52. New rule: no posting pictures of fat people.

Now, who gets to define "fat?"

[EstimatedProphet]

63. Locking

This has degenerated into a flamewar