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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:59 PM
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Poll question: Which Of The Following Is Your Least Favorite President?
I'm not including Chimpy here because then EVERYONE would vote for him...we KNOW everyone here hates him.

Clinton is on the list as a possible choice, too...because, in many ways, Clinton was NOT a true progressive. Note that he passed NAFTA, welfare reform, and DOMA...hardly things a true progressive would do...and so, he is offered up as a choice here, as well.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:00 AM
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1. If Reagan doesn't "win" this poll...
I'll eat my hat!
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:04 AM
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4. Well, I Started The Poll...And I Voted Reagan!
Actually, this was just an exercise in seeing how you go about setting up a poll...since I'm a recently-starred new donor, with the ability now to set up polls, I just wanted to see how you do it.
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hollywood926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:03 AM
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2. I have to say Reagan...
He was the one who started the vitriol against liberals and turned the word 'liberal' into a perjorative term. He had a great personality and that was enough to veil the evil he was doing behind the scenes - he fooled enough people to get 525 electoral votes in 1984. Scary.

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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:34 AM
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16. Also his PPP
Piss on the Poor Policies...

Trickle down economics
Translated: Piss on the Poor

Pull yourself up by your bootstraps
BTW: We've banned the sale of boots with straps

Liberal
Websters seems to think a liberal is a thinking person whereas a

Conservative
is a lock step nonthinker

Reagan also ate one of his own policies. One of his very first acts as president banned research that could have found a cure for Alzheimer's, then he got Alzheimer's. Maybe Mother Nature has her own methods for dealing with assholes...
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Osamasux Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:04 AM
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3. Nixon in a heartbeat. That dirty SOB did more damage
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 12:05 AM by Osamasux
than anyone in history. Including the Doperama in there now. Reagan sucked and I was personally glad to see him go, but I will never forgive or forget Nixon.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:54 AM
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21. I respectfully demur and concur with John Dean: "Worse than Watergate"
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:06 AM
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5. Who voted Bill Clinton???
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 12:15 AM by Placebo
:grr: W T F :grr:

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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:10 AM
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7. I'd Have To Say One Of Two Possibilities
A Freeper troll voted Clinton....or a progressive like myself who didn't appreciate Clinton's support for NAFTA, DOMA, or welfare reform.

That, or maybe another like-minded progressive who feels Clinton's sexual antics may have cost us the White House for a long time to come!

There's plenty of legitimate reasons for not liking Bill Clinton, folks.

Now, personally, I will say that, while not always in agreement with his policies...the aforementioned NAFTA and DOMA among them...and the ever-famous "don't ask don't tell" policy...the economy was never better than on Clinton's watch, and so I like Clinton, and wish we had him back!

BUT...I can see a reasonable argument made for why he may have done us considerable harm, too!
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:11 AM
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8. How is Clinton worse than ANY of the republican choices though???
It boggles the mind.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:15 AM
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9. I Didn't Say He Was...But SOMEONE Obviously Thinks So
and, hate to disillusion you....but clinton was no saint.

He may have done us irreparable damage with his sexual antics. Gore lost by a very slim margin in 2000...and it could be that clinton's antics were just enough to cause Gore to lose...and give us Chimpy.

Then again, his policies...in many areas...were NOT progressive.

I imagine whoever voted for Clinton in this poll is either a Freeper troll...or a extreme left-winger who really didn't appreciate Clinton's constant moves to the right.

and don't tell me Clinton didn't constantly move to, and appease the right. I've given three examples of where he did precisely that...DOMA, NAFTA, and welfare reform.
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:03 PM
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26. I voted for Clinton...
...because he was a "cheap labor" democrat. He supported NAFTA and GATT...you'd expect shit like that from Republicans but, from a Democrat, it's inexcusable.

He enthusiastically supported telecom deregulation that encouraged the type of media that is now screwing us every single day.

And he was a champion of welfare reform that eliminated the social safety net that protected millions of children....because Dick Morris convinced him it was the right thing to do, politics wise.

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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:09 AM
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6. I will defer to Will Pitt's excellent post on Reagan
After his death, may he rot in hell, the old bastard. Will laid it all out beautifully.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:17 AM
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10. Actually, What Surprises Me Most So Far Is....
NO VOTES FOR POPPY!!

As bad a Chimpy is hated....no one has yet voted for Poppy.

Maybe I oughta try a poll just between Chimpy and Reagan. That would be interesting to see which one was more hated.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:18 AM
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11. OK, One Vote For Poppy Snuck In While I Was Writing This....n/t
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:18 AM
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12. Poppy.
I consider most of the damage done under Reagan to be his fault as I believe he and his cronies were really running the show all that time.
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:36 AM
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13. Reagan negotiated with Iran in '80 - an act of treason
Why? Because he was only a presidential candidate at the time.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:38 AM
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14. Nixon, yet this administration is far worse...
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CubsFan1982 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:39 AM
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15. Not surprised no one's voted for Ford.
He was just a klutzy sod. Except for pardoning Nixon, he really didn't do much.
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mr fry Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:39 AM
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17. why no peanut farmer on there?
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:19 PM
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24. Becuase I Made The Poll...And I Didn't Feel There Was Enough
bad stuff on Mr. Carter to include him on this list. I basically included only Repukes. And clinton, because he advanced a large portion of the Conservative Agenda, in spite of being a Democrat.

Carter never advanced the conservative agenda. 'Bout the only thing Carter did that I disagreed with was giving away the Panama Canal.

There could also be an argument for including LBJ in this poll, after all he did play "Escaladio" with the Vietnamese! And by all accounts, he was not a nice guy if you trifled him.

But, again, I meant for this poll to be largely made up of Repukes.

But, how many, if any, of you would have voted for Carter or LBJ had I included them?

I didn't expect Ford to get any votes...except maybe from some people who were pissed off about him pardoning Nixon, or his involvement with the Warren Commission...and I turned out correct on that one.

I fully expected Reagan to run away with this poll. I'm surprised Poppy didn't get more votes, though.

As I said before, my main intent of making this poll was just to see how you go about doing it, as I had never made a poll before. I am a recently-starred new donor, so I just earned the capability to make polls (non-donors cannot initiate polls, though they can vote in them.)
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:52 AM
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20. Well, Ford served on the Warren Commission which promoted the
"lone nut" Oswald theory in JFK's assassination, as well as the "magic bullet" theory. That, besides pardoning Nixon, definitely qualifies him for this list. And don't forget Poland - like he did in his debate with Jimmy Carter.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:13 AM
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18. Reagan. He set the stage for the shit that's going down now...
With some of the **same** players, even. :grr:
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Osamasux Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 07:56 AM
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22. Still say Nixon. Some of the same players started out there
Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, .....
Nixon Alumni Association members
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:50 AM
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19. Ronnie Ray-guns-zap - the most disgusting idiot besides the Chimp.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:04 AM
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23. I've over 10 reasons why I didn't like Clinton, but Reagan is easily the
WORST
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:22 PM
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25. Can You Share some Of Them??
I have already stated four of my own reasons for not liking Clinton. Overall, I liked his policies and his presidency...the economy has never been better...but I feel as though Mr. Clinton may have hurt us very badly with some of his policies....and some of his extracurricular activities.

Specifically, my reasons for inculding Clinton on the list were: DOMA, NAFTA, welfare reform, and his extracurricular activities.
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