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trigz Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:51 AM
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Can I ask another stupid question?
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 08:51 AM by trigz
I've followed the discussion over Rush Limbaugh's racial slur towards a black American footballer. I'm just curious as to what is a quarterback? As in, where on the pitch does a quarterback play? Is it the bloke at the back passing the ball forward after a scrum?

(Forgive my ignorance...your answers will be repaid if and when you really need an interpretation of the Indirect offside rule in football... ;))
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:53 AM
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1. The QB is the player that receives the ball at the start of each play.
He will either hand to another player directly, toss it to him (either forward or backward) or keep the ball and run like hell.
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Girlfriday Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:57 AM
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2. The quarterback in essence, runs the team
He is like the General. Most quarterbacks call the plays; the center snaps him the ball and the quarterback can pass it, hand it off or keep it himself in order to advance it.
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 09:04 AM
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3. He pretty much runs the show...
He is the guy in charge when the offence is on the field. (I assume you are unfamiliar with American-rules football).

He has the option of:

a. handing the ball off to a running back
b. passing the ball to a receiver (which can be either a running back, or one of the guys who lines up at the end of the front line)
c. running the ball himself (not all that common, but sometimes does happen).

Feel free to ask for more rules about American style football. There are plenty of people here that would LOVE to get into an in depth discussion of the rules, theories, and strategies of football....

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trigz Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 09:17 AM
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4. Aha!
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 09:17 AM by trigz
Now I get it. Thanks!

If American football is a word, it must be: Frustrating. My brother got hold of Madden 2002 for the PS2 and lent it me. I turned it on, tried to be patient, but only lasted about 45 minutes before I gave up...

Righty, if anyone wants to know anything about indirect offside, I'm at your service! Just ask! ;)

(BTW what time is it over there? You lot seem to wake up around the time when I go home from work...)
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 09:23 AM
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5. As of right now, it is 9:25 in the morning for me. (Central time)
Another day in paradise...

Yee haw.

Oh, well. Gotta earn a livin' somehow...
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trigz Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:25 PM
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6. Right, that means you're
six hours behind us (7.20pm here now).

...or 16 hours ahead of us! Damn. Which day is it? ;)

Just watched the evening news, with 10 minutes devoted to Arnold. Then they brought in a political analyst, who said he expects Schwarzenegger to "wake up to a massive political hangover". He actually opined that the election of Schwarzenegger may help the Democrats in next year's elections, which isn't such a bad argument when you think about it, depending on how short time Arnold needs to make a complete mess of everything. Here's hoping!
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:28 PM
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7. now you answer my soccer questions
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 12:28 PM by Kamika
1st what is the indirect offside rule

2nd how can a throw in be illegal
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:28 PM
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9. May I answer?
A player is "passive" offside if he is in an offside position, but not gaining an advantage. A common example is a pass to the right winger, while the left winger is in an offside position. The play should go on. (Law 11-Offside)

A throw-in is illegal if the thrower: is not facing the field, does not have part or all of both feet on the ground on or behind the side line, does not use both hands to throw the ball, or does not deliver the throw from behind and over the head. The most common infraction is not having both feet down. (Law 15-The Throw-In)

Hope this helps.
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trigz Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 03:05 PM
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10. You forgot one small thing
In a throw-in, both hands must be held on the side of the ball. If one of your hands are directly behind the ball, you can obviously throw a lot longer. Although you're absolutely right that not having both feet on the ground is the main infraction. (Being whistled on taking a throw-in incorrectly is just about the most embarrasing thing that could happen to anyone playing footy...)

Apart from that, well answered! Although, indirect offisde occurs when a pass is intended for a player in an offside position, but said player makes no indication that he is interested in having the ball. Romario's famous indirect offside in the quarter finals of the 1994 World Cup against Holland caused this to be introduced. Romario was metres offside, but as the ball came his way simply walked relaxed and seemingly oblivious the other way. The Dutch defenders stopped and waited for the offside to be given, but it wasn't, and another Brazilian ran onto the ball from an onside position and scored. The problem with this rule is that it's always a subjective decision to be made by the ref, and has caused a fair few flared tempers in the years after 1994.

Any other questions? ;)
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 03:24 PM
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13. Not quite
The throw-in answer is straight off of the FIFA website, Laws of the Game section. I was surprised to see that they have no entry regarding the positioning of the hands. I'm sure that the referees will (myself included) would agree with you.

The Romario example is an another example of indirect (or passive) offside, but that's too complex for those not familiar with the game. I wrote the above to keep it short and simple.

I'm sure that Kamika will have many more questions for you.

:thumbsup:
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trigz Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 04:15 PM
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15. Yeah, you may be right
Anyhow, it's common practise to stop a throw if only one hand is 'active' in the throw, if you know what I mean.

That's the beauty of footy - there are as many interpretations of some of the rules as there are people, at times. The offside rule in particular is something most south american players never seem to grasp ... :)
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:33 PM
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8. American football started out pretty much like the football the rest
of the world enjoys; a game of speed, maneuver, and grace.

American football has evolved into a game of strategy, with elaborate plays, careful deception, and a military-style advancement over 'enemy' territory. Some people have suggested that one of the reason's for America's military pre-eminence is the blitzkrieg style of American football.

Of course, nothing like that would explain why we're doing so poorly in Iraq.
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Friar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 03:08 PM
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11. forget Football and watch a real sport!
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Friar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 03:12 PM
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12. go to your profiles
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 03:12 PM by Friar
and change your time/date to your time zone. You'll get a better idea of when people are posting. If they've set their correct time, that is.

oops. wrong thread. D'oh!
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 03:46 PM
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14. He's the one that gets all the money
sort of like Becks, but without Becks' athletic ability.

:p to the "futbol Americaine" fans

(former obsessively dedicated footy player here)
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