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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:55 PM
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Poll question: Best Manager in baseball
Felipe Alou and Bruce Bochy have made more with less over the years.
My vote goes to "Boch".
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:57 PM
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1. No Billy Beane?
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 04:57 PM by MathGuy
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:59 PM
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5. Beane is a GM not a manager
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:57 PM
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2. no contest ...
Bobby bobby bobby bobby
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:58 PM
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4. He's had more talent to work with and only 1 championship.
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 05:00 PM by maveric
Put him im Texas or San Diego and see how he does.
With the players, mainly the pitchers, he has had, the Braves shuld have won 6 or 7 World Series.
Not my guy.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:04 PM
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9. Actually he won the '85 AL East while managing Toronto
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 05:05 PM by underpants
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_1985.shtml

and lost to the eventual champion KC ROyals in the playoffs 4-3
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 06:12 PM
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16. I agree, Cox is overrated
He's a good fundamentals coach but he has trouble winning the big games
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:59 PM
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6. Alou is good but Bobby Cox is clearly the best
NOt that he has done more with less (until recently) but the consistency is amazing and the whole roster has turned over several times. It is now Chipper's team (with Andrew in there too but I think Chipper runs the show) so they have their anchor. What he did at the beginning of the run was just purely amazing.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:15 PM
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11. Bobby is the man.
I love my Atlanta Braves! Torre used to be with the Braves.
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:57 PM
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3. Jack McKeon
takes over sub .500 marlins and they end up winning the world series and have had a winning record since.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:26 PM
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13. Damn staight! Jack Mack is awesome
I believe one of the worst mistakes the Reds ever made was getting rid of good ol' Jack McKeon.
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 08:06 PM
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19. hah, yeah
one of their many mistakes.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:59 PM
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7. Went with Gardenhire for the same reasons you went with Boch
He has brought the Twins to the playoffs ever since he started managing the Twins!
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:00 PM
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8. I can't believe you didn't include Jack McKeon
The guy took an inexperienced team with a losing record and a dwindling fan base and made them world champions in less than one season. They even beat the Yankees twice in Yankee Stadium during the WS that year.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:05 PM
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10. That was one good, lucky season. I like "Trader Jack", but the best?
Right now its Alou, Bochy and Gardenshire IMO.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 06:09 PM
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15. He should have been on your top ten list
He did more in that one "lucky" season than most of your candidates have done in a lifetime.
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:18 PM
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12. tito
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gnofg Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:26 PM
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14. Tony LaRussa
I'm not sure who is the best but I know who is the most overrated. Tony is hands down the worst. He had the better team 3 times. This year and twice with Oakland. He also treated Ozzie with didain. I was a Cardinal fan growing up and was in the clubhouse on Stan Musial night at the Polo grounds. I have a personal ball signed to me from Stan the amn, Kenny Boyer and bob gibson. Pretty cool for a 12 year old. The Braves have had the better team only a few times and Bobby is a very good manager.
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CubsFan1982 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 07:42 PM
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17. Dusty, with reservations.
Usually, no one gets more out of his players than Dusty Baker. But last season, with all the conflict and the personality issues in the clubhouse, he just couldn't put it all together to get to the postseason. Lost in all that is the fact that we actually IMPROVED on our '03 record, but a manager is judged by whether his team makes it to the playoffs, and it didn't happen. Hopefully this year, there will be much less drama and histrionics and we can put it all together for a season to remember!
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 07:53 PM
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18. Bobby Cox is a choke artist and very overrated
Jesus Christ you should win the division penenant, National league penenant and at least five world series if you have the lineup and payroll that he has.
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