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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 06:36 PM
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I'm a Bob Dylan geek. Ask me anything.
Not a copycat, I really am. Sort of.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 06:37 PM
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1. What does that mean?
"... a Bob Dylan geek"?
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:07 PM
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6. I'm not sure exactly,
I'm guessing it means I know more than most people about Bob Dylan. Some one else had an "I am a Beetle's Geek" thread up, so I though I'd copycat 'em...
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:32 PM
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27. Well, good, then
Because I think a Dylan geek is much more interesting than a Beatles geek.
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 06:39 PM
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2. What BD albums feature The Band?
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:11 PM
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7. The most notable ones I know off the top of my head
Are Planet Waves, and the Basement Tapes...

Tho I think Self-Portrait might also be included.

(If you really want to get technical there's also the Bootleg Series among others, that feature outtakes from the afore mentioned Albums...)
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 06:40 PM
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3. Have you ever seen Dylan in concert?
I'm not sure when the last time he toured.
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:16 PM
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8. Five times.
The first was at Woodstock '94.

My favorite Dylan concert experience was a few years later. At the then dubbed Great Woods Pavilion here in MA. A whole mess of us ran toward the stage toward the end of the concert, and stood there basking in the great one's shadow.

I can sincerely say I've stood with-in fifty feet of Bob Dylan.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:17 PM
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10. Wow, that's cool!
:bounce:
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:37 PM
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21. Yeah, we stood there for quite some time too.
Right on the edge of the stage for the last twenty minutes of the show.

For some reason there weren't that many people at the show, so the security did nothing. It was a pretty cool experience that I'll never forget.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:34 PM
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28. He's almost constantly on tour
Bob's a troubadour, plain and simple. That's all he ever was, but people never caught on. He's on tour almost all the time.

http://bobdylan.com/live/
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:40 PM
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32. YeP...
I think his Last Tour has gone on for almost ten years now. :toast:

Great guy that Bob.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:12 PM
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47. Dylan still tours quite a bit, actually
he took some time off a few years back when he was hospitalized, but he is still on tour most of the time, in case you should ever have the urge to check him out.

And despite widespread criticism since the 80s about the unevenness of his live work, he still puts on a hell of a show in my opinion.

He also hits a lot of out of the way places, like Casper Wyoming and Bozeman Montana, which I think is pretty cool.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 06:43 PM
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4. is he a real singer
or is he just faking it
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:18 PM
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11. He can sing better than I can.
Seriously, listen to Nashville Skyline. You'd be amazed at some of his vocals on that album.

Not your normal Dylan vocals.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:19 PM
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12. Seconded
:P
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Feathered Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 06:44 PM
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5. You, sir
are a shameless promoter. :hi: :)
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:21 PM
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13. Of course I am. As was Mr. Zimmerman.
Long before Madonna and her constant change of styles, Sir Bob knew the value of shameless self-promotion and milking the moment for all it was worth...

Who knew exactly where he was coming from...
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:17 PM
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9. Where's Rev?
Tonight feels so weird for obvious reasons without her.
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:24 PM
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15. Yeah I know.
I said ask me anything so I'll give you an answer...

There are several Lounge regulars I've noticed that don't seem to be around lately, or as much.

Have you tried doing a search on her name to find out where her last post was at? Eh?

Any how..."Where are you tonight Sweet Marrie."
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:25 PM
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16. Of course not, I am lazy
I am sure she may be on later, tell you what though, I do enjoy being myself tonight.
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:32 PM
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18. Great to see you back to normal...
I haven't seen Miss Jimmy around either. I hope she's not still sick.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:33 PM
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19. Veronica just got a call otu lol
I am here listening to Lovely Rita by the Beatles.
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 06:08 PM
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33. Then take it to the Beetles Group Kleeb
I'm talking about Dylan...:P
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:24 PM
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14. How come
you're not posting this in your shiny new Bob Dylan DU Group, fanboy?

:evilgrin: :hi:
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:27 PM
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17. Because this all just a publicity stunt.
To get more people over there.

I'll be posting more over there soon. Until then here's the link for those who still haven't found us yet...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=302
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:34 PM
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20. "the wind"
"Wind" is one of Dylan's most common metaphors. What's it mean?
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:45 PM
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23. Blowing in the Wind, Idiot Wind
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 07:47 PM by Longgrain
I don't know what it means to Dylan himself, but I've always interpreted "the Wind" as being the space between two individuals.

The air around one person that conveys words between one mind and another, but prevents true communication from ever taking place.

Like, we're all separate from one another, using the wind to reach out to each other, but never able to make a true connection because of distance. (Both physical and metaphorical.)

If that means anything...
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:55 PM
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24. Interesting...
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 07:57 PM by greendog
...I interpret it as lies, deceit, and betrayal. He seems (to me) to often use it in a spiritual context so the betrayal is to a higher power (love, truth, god).

I like your interpretation too. I'll have to give it some thought.
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:39 PM
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22. Did Bob Dylan jump the shark
after "Blood on the Tracks". I think he did. Or maybe even after he did "Blonde on Blonde". Still, Bob is one of the greats, no doubt about it.
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:25 PM
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26. Depends on what era you're talking about...
And who your talking to.

To some, he jumped the shark as soon as he went electric with Highway 61.

To others it was the Jesus stuff he put out in the late 70s, early 80's.

Bob's always somehow found a way to make a comeback.

As far as I'm concerned, he hasn't truely Jumped the Sharked yet. He always has something up his sleeve.
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:35 PM
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29. I was expecting to get flamed
but you gave me a nice thoughtful response. Thank you.

Back in the day, I was a huge Dylan fan but I haven't listen to his recent stuff. Maybe I will give it a listen.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:21 PM
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51. Personally, I think his last two albums have been very good
I think Time Out of Mind, which came out in 1997, is one of his five best albums. I don't ever tire of listening to it. His output has slowed in the last decade or so, but he's shored up the quality from his 80s work.

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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:17 PM
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25. Why did the Vandals take the handle?
...and...was Maggie really so bad?
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:36 PM
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30. Why did the Vandals take the handle.
Because they wanted to pawn it to get another fix.
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NeoTraitors Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:57 PM
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31. My favorite Dylan song is
'When the Ship Comes in.' I've always thought it was his most positive political song. The words never fail to fill me with hope for our world.

How do you interpret that song?
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:44 PM
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34. I think I was just a fun upbeat song
probably no deep meaning other than to accentuate the positive.

I always thought it was funny that that was the only upbeat song on the otherwise dark and brooding "The Times They are A-Changing".
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:11 PM
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35. May a moody baby doom a yam?
explain
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:17 PM
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36. Do Geese see God?
:shrug:
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:30 PM
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40. Oh no! Don Ho!
You win. :)

You listen to Al, or did you have to google?
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:39 PM
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42. A little of both...
I had to google to find more.

Madam, in eden I'm Adam.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:23 PM
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37. Where can I find a copy of "Hey La"?
My BIL's father co-wrote it, and I know Dylan recorded at least one version of it-- I've been trying to track it down for three years without success.

Also known as Hey La La, among other variations.
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:28 PM
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39. Here's the best I could do on such short notice.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:50 PM
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45. Sorry, I should have specified
I have the lyrics. I want the actual song as recorded by Dylan. To the best of my knowledge it was on at least one album (I don't recall which one, but I think it was a live concert). I've never been able to track a copy of it down.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:23 PM
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38. Who's gonna throw that Minstrel Boy a coin?
Who's gonna let it roll?
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:32 PM
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41. Wanted Man
in California, Wanted Man in Buffalo

Wanted Man in Kansas City, Wanted Man in Ohio
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Liberal_Andy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:42 PM
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43. Think Bob would mind? We covered three of his last week,...
playing in a little general store. Two Dead and one Band Too!
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:49 PM
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44. Probably not, he was a old troubadour
he knew the value of borrowing in from the oldies. Half of his early
self was completely ripped off from Woody Guthry, I doubt he'd care.

Unless the record companies started hounding you for royalties.
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Liberal_Andy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:54 PM
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46. We did 5 of ours, so it's not all covers,...
Edited on Wed Feb-02-05 08:56 PM by Liberal_Andy
but we love to sing the harmonies on Bob's

You Ain't Goin' Nowhere
Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
I Shall Be Released
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NeoTraitors Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:13 PM
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48. Longgrain, as a Dylan
geek myself, I respectfully disagree with your assessment of 'When the Ship Comes In' as simply a positive, upbeat song with no deep meaning. I feel that the song described the world we would live in 'When the Ship Comes In' ie when the times truly changed.

Democrats in '72 felt that it had political meaning since it was performed at the convention that year.

And the counterculture used the line 'The whole wide world is watching!' as a rallycry at the '68 convention in Chicago.
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:19 PM
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49. Thanks for weighing in
I never really thought much of the song myself, and never looked behind the words for any deeper meaning.

thanks so much for the info...I'm going to have to look into this one...

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NeoTraitors Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:24 PM
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53. That is what makes Dylan so great.
Songs that are masterpieces to one person are forgetable to others. I have forgotten more great Dylan songs than any other artist ever recorded.
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NeoTraitors Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:20 PM
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50. Have you ever seen the old SNL skit from back
in the mid-70's where they show Dylan at Woody's bedside? Everything Woody says, Dylan frantically wrote down.

What did Woody say? Stuff like 'Bob don't think twice,its allright.'
'The answer, Bob, is blowing in the wind.' and 'the times are a changin' Bob.' Hilarious skit.
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TufNeck Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:23 PM
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52. Here's my question
Edited on Wed Feb-02-05 09:26 PM by TufNeck
Why is it....It seems to me like he came out with a book to say "hey, I'm not the Mesiah" but at the same time he's kind of trying to remind everyone that he was once admired as such yet, in actuality, is now somewhat of a has-been, although highly respected nonetheless.
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 10:23 PM
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57. Redirect all questions here...
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catbert836 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:26 PM
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54. Who was he talking about in "Positively 4th Street"?
Well?
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 10:25 PM
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58. Redirect all questions here...
Edited on Wed Feb-02-05 10:25 PM by Longgrain
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:36 PM
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55. Have you ever heard Dylan's live "Deep Ellum Blues"
Your comments about Dylan being, basically, a troubador with a knack for self-invention reminded me of the story.

I've got a live version of that song from (nearest I can tell) 1962, in which Dylan introduces the song as Deep Ellum Blues and then just before breaking into song, almost as if he couldn't help himself, he makes up a lie about the song, saying that it refers to a town in west texas, down about san antonio. (I can't remember the exact location he gives, but it's nowhere near the real Deep Ellum, which is in Dallas.)

I always laugh when I hear that introduction, because he sounds so self assured as he spins the yarn. And he had the story partly right :)
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NeoTraitors Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:59 PM
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56. He was truly crazy when he first got to
New York. He told people that he was a hobo who drifted from town to town and that he was an orphan. The last thing he would ever say in an interview is that he grew up in Hibbing MN.

To address the question from the previous poster, noone really knows anything about Dylan. He changes himself every so often (see Longgrains post above) to make sure of that.

Plus he has given a grand total of jack legitimate interviews. Sure he has said a few things in public and print from time to time, but they are just modern versions of 'I was an orphan hobo' stories.

If you think he is a has been, then he is doing a good job. The only more private celebrity in history was Garbo.
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 10:26 PM
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59. Redirect all questions here...
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 10:34 PM
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60. What do you think of his new book?
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 10:36 PM
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61. Redirect all questions here...
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