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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:55 PM
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Has anyone ever been to Cologne, Germany?
Tell me about it!

Looks interesting, and I was thinking of stopping there for a couple days on my trip from Prague to Amsterdam!

Thanks!
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:55 PM
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1. I hear it smells really nice
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:05 PM
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7. It's the 4711.
Kölnischwasser. The stuff out of the tap is Kalk and hard as stone! ;-)
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:55 PM
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2. I've driven past Koln.
On the way from Dusseldorff to Paderborn.

I like Paderborn. Go there.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:41 PM
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15. Is that accessible by train????
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:35 PM
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36. Yep.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:51 PM
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37. Great! Now I'll have to look it up in my Lonely Planet--Germany book
Thanks!
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:56 PM
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3. Great, great beers; every pub has a different kind!

Very 'swiss' kind of attitude there, and super beer! Very tall, thin glasses, for some reason...
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:57 PM
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4. My friend used to live there.
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 03:57 PM by CottonBear
It's more rainy than snowy in the winter. That's all I know. Take good waterproof outerwear. It is extra cold in Germany and Eastern Europe now.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:42 PM
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16. No it's not.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 06:31 PM
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32. It is?
:)
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:58 PM
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5. "In Koln, a town of monks and wenches
I counted eight and sixty stenches..."
Or something like that.
In case you are curious, Samuel Taylor Coleridge
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:58 PM
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6. the san fransisco
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:42 PM
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17. I'm assuming that's a good thing!
I love SF!
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:08 PM
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8. I lived there for a month.
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 04:09 PM by da_chimperor
All in all, it's a nice town. It's not Berlin, but there are still quite a number of things to do there. A lot depends on the kind of things you're interested it. The Kölner Dom is a must, but then you should allow at least 2 hours of sitting around and drinking beer along the river after to recover. I'd say it's good for two days, but I think you could see most of what you want in only one. The beer is great! So is the food. You MUST go to früh am Dom and order the schweinshaxe, it's typical rhein cuisine, and it's great (if you're not a vegetarian). Let me know if you want more details.
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:11 PM
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9. Lived in nearby Leverkusen

in the early 1960's for about six weeks and commuted regularly to Köln.

Was a nice city then!!

Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:46 PM
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22. So...........where is Oulu?????
Not a name I'm familiar with!
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Woody Box Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:19 PM
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10. I am from Cologne

and it`s definitely worth a stop if you are interested in art, culture or history. The oldest city of Germany (2000 years - Romans!).

The most interesting time to go there is carneval. For five days, the whole city is put upside down by the people. This year, I think, in the first or second week of February.

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:36 PM
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12. Are you there now?
I read about the Carneval--sounds wild. But it looks as if my trip will be a little after that!
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OldEurope Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 05:42 AM
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40. Trier and Worms also
call themselves "oldest city of Germany".
:toast:
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:27 PM
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11. The cathedral is fantastic, a UNESCO World Cultural Heritage site
If you arrive by train, the train station is just north of the Dom. There is a long shopping street that is fun to walk, and that is just south of the Dom. Everything is right at your fingertips.

The beer there is called Kölsch. It is served in little .2liter glasses, the only place in Germany where I have seen this. You can buy one of the glasses for a souvenir. I like Brauhaus Sion. It was fairly close to the Dom.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:40 PM
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13. Yeah, it does look incredible--I was thinking that just seeing that
would be worth the trip!
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:45 PM
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20. There's plenty of room in there to contemplate the universe
or meditate or whatever.

How much time will you spend in Prague? I've been there a couple of times, in Jul and Nov. The place is busy all the time. Try to get tickets to see an Opera at the Estates Theater, where Mozart debuted Don Giovanni. Bring something a little dressy for the occasion so you don't feel out of place. Jeans won't really do.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:55 PM
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24. Two weeks in Prague--it's my fifth time there--thinking of moving there
and want to leisurely check everything out to see how feasible it is!
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 05:33 AM
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39. You must be an artist.
:)
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:45 PM
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21. The Amis BOUGHT Sion.
Früh is the BEST at the Brauhaus. I won't drink it out of a bottle. x(
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:48 PM
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23. Früh am Dom is good, too. Cavernous, right?
Have you been to Brauerei zur Malzmühle? I had wanted to go...didn't make it.

When was Sion bought out?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:15 PM
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26. The place is HUGE
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 05:17 PM by Karenina
and it's a zirkus! The waiters are "special," cheeky beyond belief. YOU are there to drink and THEY will decide how much. ;-)

Sion got bought out early last year, I think. It was quite a scandal in the Express.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 05:32 AM
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38. I was last at Sion Oct. 2003
as I recall. I still have their .2L glass. I like collecting all the various shaped beer glasses Europe has to offer. They make good Xmas presents, too.
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giant_robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:41 PM
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14. I lived in Bonn 1980-1983
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 04:42 PM by giant_robot
I've been to several carnevals. The Dom is beautiful. Food and drink is excellent. I'd say it's worth a least a one-day stopover.


On edit: Bonn is only about 20km from Cologne.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:44 PM
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18. What's in Bonn? I haven't researched that yet....is it
a do-able day trip or afternoon trip from Koln, or is there too much to see?
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giant_robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:07 PM
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25. There's a couple things, but not a lot, really.
The house Beethoven was born is is in the downtown fussplatz. I guess the fussplatz is pretty good for restaraunts and shopping, too. There are two castles nearby. One is a pretty cool-looking one they turned into a hotel (the Bad Godensberger). The other (the Drachenfels)is not much more than a ruin, but there's a lot of legend behind the location. Supposedly it's the place where the legendary Sigfried slew the dragon. It's actually a nice little hike to the top of the mountain to see that one.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:27 PM
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28. Thanks for the info....
...do you recall if the castles have buses or trains that run fairly frequently to them? I mean, not right up to them, but to the twon or wherever they're located? Sometimes you end up taking the train, catching a bus, etc., and tim would be of the essence in this short side trip!
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giant_robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:49 PM
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30. The U-bahn (subway) goes directly from the Bonn train station
to Bad Godesberg. I can't recall how I got to the Drachenfels. It's such a popular tourist attraction that I'm sure there's some kind of public transportation.

I almost forgot about the Rhine cruises. They're pretty cool if you've got a day to kill. They go into wine country. Nice scenery and good wine.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 06:50 PM
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33. Thanks--yeah, I've seen photos of those cruise--very scenic!
Not sure if I'll have time on this trip, though. :-(
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:56 PM
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31. Not that much, but Beethoven was born there.
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 06:05 PM by Karenina
Museums are good. It's 15 minutes from Köln on a fast train but since the gub'mint moved to Berlin, Bonn is... well... I'd suggest taking a milk train down to Berg Rheinfels. It's this INCREDIBLE castle ruin and the train runs along the river. It is REALLY BEAUTIFUL.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 06:52 PM
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34. Thanks--someone else suggested that castle, so it's got two votes going
for it!!!!!!!!!
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:01 PM
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35. No, there is not much to see
The Beethoven things, the German House of History and a some small change (sorry).
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:45 PM
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19. was there years ago .... was fascinated by the history
--the cathedral is awesome

--I decided not to visit any church built later than the 1400s or rebuilt after WWII!!!!!

--being a young American at the time, I kept wondering how people could live in a city like Koeln with the cathedral overshadowing everything they did.......it would be like trying to live up to your super famous mother or father
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:16 PM
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27. We were there
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 05:17 PM by LynzM
For Karneval in 2002... beautiful city, the Dom is breathtaking! Definitely worth a stop in if you are on your way through, and if you're taking the train along the river, makes the trip that much better!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:29 PM
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29. Wish I could time it to coincide with Carnevale!
Alas!
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 06:34 AM
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41. Begins 11/11 at 11:11
Ends with a city-wide drunken, costumed binge 6 days before Ash Wednesday. Kinda like a Fellini/Dali collaboration after several cases of Reisdorf...
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 06:46 AM
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42. Yes, but wished I'd had more time to spend there.
We only spent a day there. I did buy some 4711. It smells nice. :D

I recall the cathedral was lovely. That's about it. Definitely needed some more time to see the place.
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