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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:07 PM
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So I just picked up Brian Wilson's long-awaited SMILE album....
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 10:34 PM by NightTrain
Having listened to it carefully from start to finish, my reaction is, "Brian Wilson's fans waited 38 years for THIS?!"

I should've known that SMILE wouldn't impress me, both from reading the track titles ("Roll Plymouth Rock," "Cabin Essence," and "Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine," for example) and from knowing that Wilson's writing partner on this project was the pretentious pseudo-intellectual poet Van Dyke Parks, whose SONG CYCLE is one of the most unintentionally silly albums I've ever heard. But I got a $20 gift card from Best Buy as a Christmas gift, so I decided to give Wilson the benefit of the doubt.

I should've known better.

Perhaps I just don't "get it," but SMILE strikes me as just an overly amibitous collection of carnival music and children's songs. I can't make head or tail of the lyrics, the production makes Phil Spector sound minimalist, and the instrumentation has more in common with Aaron Copeland than it does with great rock 'n' roll--or even bad rock 'n' roll, for that matter.

On the plus side, Wilson is in fine voice and the harmonies are tight throughout. If only somebody had been around to act as his bullshit detector!

Say what you will about Wilson's musical genius and I wouldn't be inclined to disagree. However, if SMILE is what folks use as the measure of Brian Wilson's genius, then I can just sigh audibly and raise my eyeballs toward the ceiling.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to wash SMILE out of my cerebral cortex. I think "Surfin U.S.A," "I Get Around," "Fun Fun Fun," and "California Girls" ought to do it!
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:08 PM
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1. It all ended with "Pet Sounds"
That's what I think. And I never understood the invidious comparisons some people make - that "Pet Sounds" beat anything the Beatles ever did.

Brian Wilson's brain was fried, and that's an organ that just doesn't regenerate, no matter how we wish it might.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:10 PM
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2. What?????
Smile was genius!!! Honestly, not much of it was changed from the bootlegs out there....but I thought it was REALLY REALLY GOOD...

Well some people can't understand genius I guess..
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:14 PM
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3. I heard somebody else say that it was in their top 4
for 2004's best albums. I guess a lot of this just depends on what you like. I haven't heard Wilson's album.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:15 PM
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5. SMILE isn't genius simply because you say it is.
I'd very much appreciate it if you would back up your assertion. Seriously! I feel that SMILE is an "in" joke that no one has bothered to explain to me.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:17 AM
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14. OK...well here's why its genius
"Cabin Essence" That tune involves intricate melody, counter melody and then harmony. Something unheard of in rock music, and even more so in 1967.

"Child is the Father of Man" that tune's haunting melody has been unsurpassed in its use of motif. Much like Wagnerian opera, this album has certain motifs that return throughout the album to tell a story.

What else can I say? If you cant recognize the brilliance that this is than nothing I can say will really explain it to you.

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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:18 AM
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19. a joke?
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:15 PM
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4. It's basically the bootlegs and some Carl Wilson 70s arrangements
But there is genius enough in the album for me to get by on.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:16 PM
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6. I keep hearing the word "genius" bandied about...
...but nobody bothers to explain WHY the album is genius. Please people, I need an explanation! Help me out here, OK?
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:22 PM
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7. I can't empirically prove the existence of its genius to you
If that's what you mean. It's all subjective--something for each person to decide. Genius can only exist in SMiLE if it is perceived in it by someone, and that someone will only perceive genius according to his or her own biases, taste, etc.

"Heroes and Villains" is a great number--especially the "in the cantina" bit cut from the Smiley Smile track. The melody for "Wonderful" is genius in my view. And "Child is the Father of the Man" has an excellent arrangement to it.
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:28 PM
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9. I'll try...
Wilson's method of composing "pop" music on this album is one that is innovative yet not indecipherably complex. The term applied to his groundbreaking approach to songwriting has been deemed as "modular" - meaning that sections of songs (or miniature movements in the case of Smile) alternate back and forth from one another via key modulations that take place seemlessly and unobtrusively.

Plus, the harmonies and counterpoint he uses in some of the songs is just gorgeous on their own in my opinion...

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ShadesOfC Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:47 PM
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12. it's "genius" but a decade or two late to be considered real genius...
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 10:49 PM by ShadesOfC
I finally listened to Wilson's full opus a couple of days ago, it is impressive in a 60's POP music wall of sound kind of way. Even though it took the poor tortured soul almost 40 years to refine, it rightfully deserves a place in the American music songbook, after a few listens, it will grow on you like the latest U2 CD. Sonically the musical arrangements are grandiose and complicated. I respect the sound because I love and appreciate great POP music, as for the lyrical sensibilities they are somewhat juvenile and loony-toonish especially coming out of the mouth of a 60-something ragged voice falsetto.
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:26 PM
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8. I've heard some of it from the Showtime special on the making
but I think it's part "well, it was genius at the time it was originally supposed to be made, so let's keep saying that" and "well, Brian's been through tough times, so we don't want to say anything that might cause a relapse"...
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:31 PM
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10. Nah--I can honestly say there are bits of genius in there
There are also missed opportunities, bad arrangements--Good Vibrations got ruined, for example.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:32 PM
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11. I think it is a great album
The arrangements are fantastic and the production is fantastic. I disliked the beach Boys up until about 6 years ago because I didn't like their beach tunes. Then I started listening to them and understood what everyone was talking about all those years.
The only thing that I can say about Brian's mid 60s work is that the music and productions he was doing was far from any one person at the time. Spector was way over the edge and The Beatles needed 5 people to make those great recordings. Brian did it all.
As for this new release, for being in the shape he is in, he did a great job. This was all recorded, mixed and produced in just a few months and I find it amazing. Genius?..yeah, I think so. When I first put this on I couldn't believe that he was able to get a fresh new sound and also keep a lot of analog feel to it. The mix is superb in my opinion and considering he hears only in one ear i think he did great.
I could understand where people might not like it...I did though.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:57 PM
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13. The best thing about Van Dyke Parks is his name...
"pretentious pseudo-intellectual poet" pretty much sums him up


I found SMILE disappointing, but I consider Wilson to be the most over-rated "genius" in all of pop culture. Now, let me prepare to be run out of town (Athens, GA) :)
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Wheaty Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:22 AM
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15. LOL
Now, let me prepare to be run out of town (Athens, GA)

LOL yes having friends in Athens who are in the local music scene, I'd say you better keep that thought to yourself B-)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:56 AM
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16. Apparently most of the musicians here never get past the "B"s...
in their record collection: Beach Boys, Beatles, Byrds, Big Star, Bowie, Badfinger... It's a freakin' pattern I tell ya! :)
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:10 AM
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17. Disagree
I got it for Festivus, and I had similar doubts about it the first couple times I played it.

But now I think it's brilliant. My route into it was the second suite, from "Wonderful" through "Surf's Up." These are, first of all, really sophisticated melodies (if you don't think so, I dare you to try and sing them!), and the Brian Wilson trademark vocal counterpoint is out in full force.

Then there's the way he recalls other parts of the piece. The way that incidental theme from "Good Vibrations" shows up in the middle of "Song for Children" is just the kind of jaw-dropping surprise I'd hoped this record would contain. And the various settings of "Child" that are clearly related, but different: this is brilliant at the level of Wagner.

As for the super-Spector production I have almost no idea what you mean. I think the new version of "Heroes and Villains" is actually weaker than the original, disappointingly so. I think the orchestral instruments are used for incidental color, rather than constant "sweetening." I don't see how the harpsichord in "Wonderful" or the xylophones in the first bit of "Wind Chimes" can be seen as anything wall-like; they're extremely subtle, not to mention gorgeous. I do find the rhythm section a little too modern, almost mechanical in a way, and maybe that's what bothers you.

Happens I also have a theory of what Smile is about, which allows me to put up with the goofiness and pretentiousness of Van Dyke Parks. The original idea was to make a distinctively American answer to the Beatles, and Parks interpreted that as a way of thinking about his and Wilson's own roots. As Californians, they were aware of having ridden this great wave of manifest destiny across the continent, amber waves of grain and all, and then bumping into the Pacific and wondering where else there was to go. Bear in mind now that the CD as we have it today is *not* what they wrote in 1966, which in turn is probably not what they were hoping to achieve-- but some of the bits are there. "Roll Plymouth Rock" is obviously about the Pilgrims landing, and the beginnings of our problematic relationships with the native Americans. "Cabin Essence" deals with the sod-busters laying out farms, and then the train coming through and hastening the pace of the expansion. It's a simplistic, rose-colored version of our history, but that's part of why they called it "Smile"-- they wanted to make their audience feel good about themselves.

I think I even have a handle on "Surf's Up," but it would take all day to explain :-)

I assum there's stuff that they never finished that would have made Smile even better. The original plan involved an "Elements" suite, with "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" representing fire, and being followed by the water image in "In Blue Hawaii," and maybe "Wind Chimes" is supposed to invoke air, but earth got left out (or maybe given short shrift in "I'm In Great Shape"). It's also likely that the order of the songs isn't what they would have done in 1966. In fact what are the odds that Wilson remembers his original intentions clearly? He dug into his trunk, pulled out the manuscripts, and tried to piece them together in a musically interesting way. This is what we get-- flawed, to be sure, but for my money it's as good as anything that's come out in the 21st century.
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:20 AM
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20. Nice Analysis
I listen to this record and selfishly wish Brian still had the same perfect falsetto voice he had back in the 60's. Man, the record would instantly become twice as good even though it is still great now.

And good work sticking up for Van Dyke Parks, he is very unconventional and abstract in his lyrics yet they do hang together and make sense. Smile's lyrics are great illustrations of lost Americana.

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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:36 AM
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21. Thank you
If you can get hold of it, listen also to Parks' Song Cycle, which deals with some of the same ideas: growing up on the farm, migrating to the city and feeling uprooted, reconciling pioneer values with modernity (not to mention LSD :hippie: )

His other records I'm not familiar with, I'm sorry to say. (Actually I have Tokyo Rose and can't make head or tail of it.)

And I agree about the voice. It would also be nice to still have Carl, the way he sang "God Only Knows."

But the important thing to me is that Smile is just brim-full of joie de vivre. I saw Brian in 2002, and I was struck by how the only time he looked comfortable was while he was singing-- and that band, the Wonder-Mints, all looked radiantly joyful that they got to play and sing this material with the dude who'd written it. That's the feeling that comes through on Smile.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:17 AM
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18. Sorry - that album made my decade - a masterpiiece of the highest order
we can't agree on everything
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