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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:11 PM
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6 more days....just 6 more days.....
Until I am officially replaced by cheap Indian labor. I can't tell you what a relief it will be to not have to deal with badly trained and semi-fluent heavily accented tech workers. They suck so bad that I go home exhausted and stressed worse than I have been in years.
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:16 PM
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1. OH, NO!!
...but am I correct in presuming you are losing your job as well?

I have dial-up and had a problem with MSN. Therefore, I had to keep calling back, doing what I was directed to do, having it not work, and calling back again.

Everyone I talked to had an Indian accent and finally I just asked where they were located. It absolutely blew my mind when the response was they were talking to me from a callcenter in India!

This is insane!!!

Vote Kucinich and bring these jobs back :bounce: .

:think: :argh:
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:20 PM
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4. Yes....I will be unemployed.
But I would rather be unemployed than continue to try to deal with them. I would end up popping valium like candy if I did. I have a lot of patience, but my replacements would try the patience of a saint.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:17 PM
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2. IT F***ING SUCKS
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:33 PM
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7. Thanks for the great article & site which
I have just added to my "favorites"!
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:20 PM
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3. You get what you pay for.
American Business...the pride of the GOP.

"If we can't beat 'em then send their jobs overseas!"


I am sorry to hear about your short time, and I hope that you find something soon.

I hear that the position for hangman is still open for when they convict Chimpy for war crimes.

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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:21 PM
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5. I'll NEVER Get Another Dell
Just for that reason. Just bought a new one about 6 weeks ago, had a few small problems and got stuck talking to "their" customer support in India.

What a joke. Micro$haft is the same way.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:23 PM
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6. Sad
That is very sad, we should all have good jobs over here in the
great USA

I hope you dont have to go overseas to Iraq, as halliburton is hiring
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:48 PM
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8. I predict a race to the bottom that will act like an iron noose
around the throat of technical advance.

I wrote a seminal paper for my old company about the best, most ethical way to deal with our professional staff from nations with a poverty program... pay them well to stay in their own homeland. But our company really needed the best and brightest, so there was no profit in cutting costs on labor.

The upshot is that quality will plummet to the point where demand for IT products that work will overwhelm the supply. When that happens, rape them for me. I was broken and discarded by this system. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing at all against foreign programmers. I know several terrifyingly brilliant ones and have worked on multinational teams quite happily. But that is not the situation you are facing, in all liklihood.

You are being replaced by a sweatshop worker who does not drive to an ample home with DSL. Sanjit goes home to a small hovel, the better appointed of which have intermittent electrical power and dreams of health insurance for his children.

The lesson that American business is about to find out is that you cannot drive an information dependent economy without a priesthood of the cognoscienti. The half life of knowledge of IT is 18 months. That is why it is so expensive. The first thing to go will be progress. The second thing to go will be solutions that are a good fit for the problem space. Solutions implimented via cookie cutter tend to generate a large amount of organizational chaos, as users try to get past the impedance of automation that far from solving problems, creates a new layer of problem space to manage.


An old medical adage goes-- Show me the intern that does not double my work and I will kiss their ass.

This really puts the difference between the promising rhetoric of globalisation in sharp contrast with the reality.

My advice, if you aren't already good at UML, become so. The place where the jobs will remain is in design. In order to design, you have to understand the problem space, which is a difficult task for another culture.

Case in point -- design a point of sale system for a barter culture, an inventory system for nomads, I helped redesign a real estate listing system from American realtors to French realtors. In a career with it's share of blown deadlines, it stood out.

We can turn this around on a group basis, you gotta put food on your family. Really, UML is a very good suggestion.

On a group basis, we need to take it to the corporatists. IT really needs to organize... years ago. But no time like the present to start.


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