Choose my sig line

[sandnsea]

As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.
George Washington

No matter how high we may sometimes soar, no matter how invincible we may sometimes feel, we are all fed and nurtured and sustained by complex webs of connection. We all truly are in this together.

That, of course, is the essential but too often forgotten wisdom that lies at the heart of all the world's great religions-that we should love others as we love ourselves.
Teresa Heinz Kerry

I'd do a poll, but I want to hear your reasons for your choices.

[JohnKleeb]

1. The second one I like

most.
Why? because it really does show that "We are all in this together" philo you were discussing with me. You like my sigs, I made up the second one while I was board one night and pissed off at purism.

[sandnsea]

5. I like them

Especially freedom from alienation.

[JohnKleeb]

7. yep

it was all random, I was just poed at people who think the best way to deal with people who disagree with them in the party is to throw em out, we are a BIG tent party, if you wanna talk about how you want a party of FDR, you have to be that way.

[Droopy]

2. I can't decide

They are both good. I don't think you could go wrong with choosing either one.

[intheflow]

3. #2

The first has sexist language. ("As Mankind becomes more liberal...")

The third is a problem for me because I have come to think of the golden rule as flawed. For while it is true we should love others as we love ourselves, we should perhaps think more about loving others as they would want to be loved. (As in, democracy is good for Americans, so Iraqis must want American democracy forced on them! :eyes: )

Number two is good for 2 reasons. 1) It's just sound philosophy. 2) It's not a quote attributed to anyone else which means you're thinking for yourself. :hi:

On edit: did I read that wrong and there are only 2 quotes? Is what I thought was #2 of 3 really just part of #2? If so, I recommend cutting the loving others part and just going with that top paragraph.

[sandnsea]

4. They go together

The second and third paragraphs go together. And I think we can forgive old George for using sexist language, no?

[intheflow]

6. Well, I guess we can forgive the original (and only legitamite) George W.

Limited, as we all are, by the times we live in.

I still vote for the second paragraph by itself. New reason: Heinz-Kerry is a chick, and we women gots to stay together!

[sandnsea]

8. The whole quote

Teresa's speeches are amazing. This is my favorite part, she usually threads it into her speeches somewhere.


The most amazing experience for me was to stand beneath the jungle canopy towering 120 feet overhead. It truly had the feeling and simplicity of a gothic cathedral. The trees were like pillars, often anchored by buttress-like roots. They grew in a mere six inches of soil. You couldn't help but wonder what sustained them, and then you looked at the ground and saw the interplay of mosses, ferns, mushrooms, insects and animals, and you began to understand the beauty and complexity and interdependence of life.
We are, all of us, like those trees. Even they depend on the kindness of strangers, and so it is for us.

No matter how high we may sometimes soar, no matter how invincible we may sometimes feel, we are all fed and nurtured and sustained by complex webs of connection. We all truly are in this together.

That, of course, is the essential but too often forgotten wisdom that lies at the heart of all the world's great religions-that we should love others as we love ourselves. And it is the wisdom at the heart of all true charity and philanthropy.

[intheflow]

9. Wow!

I'd vote for the first paragraph, if only it'd fit!

[sandnsea]

10. I know

That's why I opted for the other two, it carried the feel from the first. But then I like that George quote too because we need to start quoting what the founders really said. I suppose I could change them every other week or two.