Wow..for folks with bad eyes..(Like me:(..) This sucks

[SoCalDem]

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I wouldn't. Interrobang Jul-06-03 07:56 PM, #1
I know a few people who have done telemarketing... arcos Jul-06-03 08:01 PM, #2
Telemarketing jobs juajen Jul-06-03 08:19 PM, #4
Telemarketing jobs are being sent overseas Aaron Jul-06-03 09:36 PM, #38
I feel sorry for them jiacinto Jul-06-03 08:15 PM, #3
I don’t feel a bit sorry for them either Peace_2_Everyone Jul-06-03 08:20 PM, #5
I find this to be callous jiacinto Jul-06-03 08:22 PM, #6
I would celebrate Superfly Jul-06-03 08:28 PM, #8
What a great attitude! jiacinto Jul-06-03 08:30 PM, #11
Hey, man... Superfly Jul-06-03 08:35 PM, #12
meaningful jobs are a luxury Cocoa Jul-06-03 08:39 PM, #13
And will you put food on their tables while they look? jiacinto Jul-06-03 08:39 PM, #14
Look...let me spell it out Superfly Jul-06-03 08:43 PM, #15
I really expected better on a "progressive board" jiacinto Jul-06-03 08:46 PM, #16
Don't you presume to be Superfly Jul-06-03 08:47 PM, #17
I would expect more sympathy jiacinto Jul-06-03 08:51 PM, #18
Alright, guy....one more time... Superfly Jul-06-03 08:55 PM, #20
What if that was the only job they could get? jiacinto Jul-06-03 08:57 PM, #21
OK... Superfly Jul-06-03 08:59 PM, #22
OH yeah... Superfly Jul-06-03 09:00 PM, #23
You are a really callous person then jiacinto Jul-06-03 09:02 PM, #24
Fuckin-A Superfly Jul-06-03 09:04 PM, #25
Whatever jiacinto Jul-06-03 09:04 PM, #26
Being a hooker is a job Superfly Jul-06-03 09:06 PM, #27
Two out of those three are illegal jiacinto Jul-06-03 09:09 PM, #29
To you, it's wrong... Superfly Jul-06-03 09:13 PM, #30
Don't blame them for what their bosses make them do jiacinto Jul-06-03 09:14 PM, #32
Simple question Superfly Jul-06-03 09:18 PM, #34
Deleted message Name removed Jul-06-03 09:43 PM, #39
Right back atcha Superfly Jul-06-03 09:47 PM, #42
Carlos. I agree that the way the thread was worded, the worker got nothingshocksmeanymore Jul-06-03 09:24 PM, #35
I don't support getting calls against your will, NSMA jiacinto Jul-06-03 09:28 PM, #36
Agreed. I can have empathy for the out of work, unskilled laborer nothingshocksmeanymore Jul-06-03 09:44 PM, #40
Don't fear for them Carlos Capn Sunshine Jul-06-03 09:45 PM, #41
Carlos... Moosenose Jul-06-03 08:52 PM, #19
Would you feel sorry for.... BiggJawn Jul-06-03 08:24 PM, #7
I do Cocoa Jul-06-03 08:28 PM, #9
Telemarketing companies should be happy about this Philosophy Jul-06-03 08:28 PM, #10
I feel bad for them armatt Jul-06-03 09:08 PM, #28
you answered your own question Allah Akbar Jul-06-03 09:14 PM, #31
Yikes dsc Jul-06-03 09:15 PM, #33
I worked as a telemarker for 6 weeks Sweetpea Jul-06-03 09:34 PM, #37
Telemarketing industry was already on the skids, I think. shimmergal Jul-06-03 09:53 PM, #43
IIndustry Superfly Jul-06-03 09:56 PM, #44
i shouldn't comment since i'm unlisted... EV1Ltimm Jul-06-03 09:58 PM, #45
yes feel sorry for them gottaB Jul-07-03 12:43 AM, #46
I don't feel sorry for them Piperay Jul-07-03 12:51 AM, #47
Not for a second Egnever Jul-07-03 12:57 AM, #48

[SoCalDem]

1. I guess I will only be able to respond to threads before they get too big

and what the hell is up witl my sig?? It was small a minute ago, and I did nothing to increase the size>.:shrug:

[DemExpat]

2. It would help if the poster's name and reply number

were separated from the post subject line title, wouldn't it?


:hi:
DemEx

[SoCalDem]

3. yes indeed..

It's all run together for me and very "untidy"..(to quote Dumbsfeld)

[DemExpat]

5. I agree

Something to ask the Admins...

[Maddy McCall]

4. SoCal, I posted a nearly identical topic at the same time you did...

ooOOoooo SPOOKY! :scared:

Mods, if you see this, you may remove my thread on the almost identical topic.

[Dookus]

6. yes...

this makes finding new posts even harder than before.

The FAQ indicates that when you leave a thread, a cookie SHOULD be set to mark new messages when you return, but this is not the case.

[Maddy McCall]

7. I turned on "large type" in my preferences...

It helped immensely..just a pointer for everyone else.

SoCalDem--what is uveitis?

[Dookus]

8. yes, I have large fonts on, too...

but the problem is that the post numbers are no longer in a simple column, so it's very hard to find new posts.

I've been asking all over the place, but nobody seems to know the answer to this:

The FAQ indicates that if I turn OFF the Mark feature, when I leave a thread, a timestamp cookie should keep track of what messages were there, and when I return, newly-added messages should have a yellow page icon next to them. This is not the case.

Currently, when dealing with a large thread, I try to remember the last post count, and when I return, scan the summary for post numbers higher than that. Very inefficient, I know. But I had hoped the new software would fix that problem. Instead, it's now worse because I can't easily scan the post numbers.

The Mark feature is really cumbersome: you have to use it AFTER you leave a thread, and after using it, it dumps you back in the Latest page, NOT the forum you were just in.

I really hope there's some way to fix this. As it was, I could never deal with threads >100 or so posts. With the post numbers being "de-columnized", I'll probably give up at 40 posts.

[SoCalDem]

9. My doctors described it as a catastrophic event in the eye..:(

UVEITIS INFLAMMATION OF THE EYE
To understand what uveitis is and how serious it is, it is helpful to know basic anatomy of the eye. The outer layer that encloses the eye is composed of the clear cornea and the white sclera. Inside the eye, the innermost layer is the nerve layer or the retina. The middle layer of the eye (uvea or uveal tract) is the nutritional layer rich in blood vessels. It is made up of: the iris (colored portion in the front part of the eye), the ciliary body the part of the eye which produces the fluid inside the eye (aqueous humor) and the choroid that provides nutrition to the retina inside the eye. When inflammation develops within the uveal tract, the term is uveitis (-itis means 'inflammation of', so this is inflammation of the uvea). As specific segments of the uveal tract are affected, uveitis is further classified depending on the affected structure. Iritis is inflammation of the iris. Cyclitis is inflammation of the ciliary body. Anterior uveitis or iridocyclitis is inflammation of both the iris and ciliary body. Choroiditis or posterior uveitis is inflammation of the choroid. If all three structures (iris, ciliary body and choroid) are inflamed then it is called panuveitis. These are doctor terms but are helpful for you to know. Due to its rich blood supply, the uveal tract is a natural target for diseases originating in other parts of the body. Because the cornea is normally clear, signs of disease may be seen inside the eye, often before signs develop elsewhere in the body. Additionally, uveitis may have causes within the eye (such as cataract or changes in the lens), on the surface of the eye (such as corneal ulcer) and trauma.

Diagnosis of uveitis
Uveitis is not a disease just as a sprained ankle or a sore throat aren't diseases. It is a condition or syndrome which indicates inflammation within the eye. Uveitis may cause vague clinical signs that may include blinking, squinting, watery discharge from the eye, and/or fear of light (photophobia) without any obvious changes to the eye itself. The normally clear cornea may appear dull or hazy blue due to uveitis. In other cases, the cornea becomes cloudy due to white blood cells accumulating on the inside of the cornea. The conjunctiva (white of the eye) becomes red and swollen. In some cases of uveitis, the iris (colored portion of the eye) becomes red or changes color. Uveitis is usually diagnosed by an examination of structures of the eye using instruments that magnify and illuminate. In more advanced cases, changes are visible without special instruments. Once uveitis is diagnosed, a general evaluation of the patient should be performed if uveitis is suspected to be a sign of internal disease. Blood profiles or other tests may be necessary if certain diseases are suspected or to find the cause of the uveitis. An ophthalmic examination consists of a visual inspection of the external and internal portions of the eye and the measurement of ocular pressure. Ocular pressure is maintained by fluid (aqueous humor) which is continually produced by the ciliary body and drains from the eye. (This is not tears!) If the ciliary body is inflamed fluid production should slow down and the ocular pressure should drop. The aqueous humor produced in the eye flows through the pupil then drains into an 'angle' between the iris and the cornea where it leaves the eye. Cellular debris produced in uveitis can block this drainage angle or a membrane might develop over the iris and drainage angle and inhibit the outflow of the fluid causing elevated intraocular pressure (IOP). This is known as glaucoma. Alternatively, the iris may adhere to the lens and block fluid flow through and out of the eye resulting in glaucoma . Once uveitis resolves, glaucoma may persist if drainage structures were permanently damaged by the inflammation or the membrane. Alternatively, if the ciliary body has been severely damaged, fluid production may cease entirely and the eye will begin to shrink up. Recheck of the eyes following the resolution of uveitis is important for these reasons.

Causes of uveitis
Uveitis may be caused by many different diseases. Diseases in the dog include lymphoma, bleeding disorders, ehrlichiosis, Rocky Mountain Spotted fever, Lyme's disease and brucellosis. In the cat, uveitis can be a consequence of Feline Leukemia Virus (FELV), Feline Infectious Peritonitis (FIP), Feline Immunodeficiency Virus or Feline AIDS (FIV), toxoplasmosis and/or other diseases. In any animal, a corneal ulcer or penetrating injury such as cactus spines, porcupine quills, pellets or b.b.'s or a scratch may result in uveitis. Blunt trauma can damage the eye severely and result in uveitis. Inflammation of the uveal tract can occur when the lens leaks some of its contents inside the eye. The lens may cause uveitis when injured, when a cataract is rapidly forming, when cataract is dissolving or following penetrating injury or certain types of surgery such as cataract surgery. Further possible causes are local bacterial infection, immune mediated (autoimmune) diseases, cancer and parasitic diseases. Treatment can be more specific if the actual cause of uveitis is known.


Unfortunately, in up to 75% of the cases the cause of uveitis is never determined.
I am in the 75%..they have no idea how I got it :(

[REP]

10. OW

That's rotten, SoCal. I'm sorry you have it ...

... and I'm sorry I read the description! I'm a total wimp when it comes to the eyes.

[SoCalDem]

11. I was sound asleep when the "event" happened..

It felt like someone had stabbed my in the eye.. I have never felt anything quite like that before..

Of course we had Kaiser at that time, and they gave me eye drops , pain pills and sent me homw.. I did not get to see the opthalmologist for almost a week.. He hit the roof when he examined me.. Some of my vision might have been saved if they had realized what an emergency it was.. He likened it to a stroke...only in your eye..


Live and learn :(

[Maddy McCall]

12. wow...sorry about that.

Good that you still have good vision in the other eye.

[REP]

13. Yikes!

I have Kaiser up here, but I seem to have the Eye Inquisitor who insists on examining mine in detail extremely often. I don't have anything terrible, I'm just extremely nearsighted, have high pressure (no other signs of glaucoma, though - and no medical marijuana, either), cysts on my eyeball and a history of temporary vision loss (migraines). He practically has to scrape me off the ceiling to do the exams.

I know why I'm so eye-shy: when I was about 18 months old, I cut my cornea on my father's watch stem and had to be taken to the emergency room. I can still remember being held down on a cold table with people in masks poking at my eyes and that it hurt like hell. Either I'm remembering a childhood mishap - or I was abducted by aliens.

[joycep]

14. How did you do that?

I have tried to find some way to do that.

[catpower2000]

15. I posted about this when we beta-tested the new DU...

I agree, I can't follow the tree of the new threads at all, and I can't find new messages. When I asked the question in comments/questions, Skinner said he thought it was EASIER to read. :shrug:

Cat

[Maddy McCall]

16. No it's not easier, not at all...it's much worse. The other was better.

You can't even locate author's names. It's all mushed together.