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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:57 AM
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If your Ancestors were from Europe can you ask for amnesty?
I'm willing to purchase a ticket to a country where one of my ancestors came from and ask for amnesty. Can someone ask for a Citizenship and get one if you can prove that your great grandfather came from England, Holland or some other country?

Would it depend on what country that you are trying to enter? I wouldn't mind going to New Zealand or Australia.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:00 AM
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1. That doesn't work for me
I'm Indian. Can I ask all of you immigrants to leave?
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:01 AM
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4. ROFL
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:01 AM
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5. Lol....

....my friend says the same thing...all the time.

Cheers,
Kim :toast:
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:06 AM
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8. I would have to leave the Indian side behind
:cry:
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KingChicken Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:00 AM
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2. Australia has simple citizenship rules.
Basically you will have to have residence there for 5 years and live there for 3 years. Just be careful, they just re-elected their pro-bush preisident.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:00 AM
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3. NZ has some very strict immigration laws
and I think Australia is semi strict about it.

I don't think you can claim asylum based on ancestors. Even if you could, it wouldn't help me, as we did years of genelogical research and our people left Europe (Wales and Scotland to be exact) way back in the fricking 1600s!!!!! So it's probably too far back for me even if they DID do it.

But I doubt it.

Google for immigration laws plus the name of the country you are interested in and find out.

I might look at the UK just out of curiosity.

My husband's father was born in Germany and had dual citizenship for a long time.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:02 AM
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6. Mostly, no.
The Republic of Ireland has provision provision for grandchildren of Irish immigrants. But it's not easy. And you'd just be let in. You'd still have to support yourself.

Getting into any of the whiter countries requires lots of money and/or a marketable profession.


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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:41 PM
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17. Are you sure?
I have looked into it. All, you need is three(3) pieces of documentation pertaining to yourself, three pieces for your father and three pieces for your grandparent.(Birth certificate , death certificate, marriage license, passports are all acceptable) I am missing my grandmothers Marriage license and birth certificate. But they are easily obtainable. It cost about $260 to process the application. Thank God my grandmother was born in Donegal, Ireland! Republic of Ireland that is, not the one that blows up all the time.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:45 PM
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18. Plus++++++
plus Ireland is in the EU so I can live in any EU member nation. I am not saying that I am going to split. But I do have that option if they start rouding people up.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:05 AM
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7. depends on the country
Some, for instance France, used to have "ius solis" i.e. anybody born in that country or associated territory can become a citizen.

Others, Germany being the prime example, have "ius sanguis", meaning that citizenship is inherited.

The pure rules aren't used any more, today almost all countries (even France and Germany) use a combination of the two basic ideas.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:27 AM
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9. Some jobs makes it easier to get a work Visa.
Largely health care. I'll be an RN in less than 3 years. My children's dad is also in health care. I don't want to go, but I would do anything to save my children's lives if it comes down to it.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:33 AM
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10. Do you think that Marketing is a good field?
I would be willing to change my major so that I can find a job in another country.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:27 PM
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11. Amnesty has nothing to do...
with your ancestors, and most countries would take a dim view of an American seeking amnesty. Europe has more African, Middle East, etc, amnesty seekers than we do.

Very few countries have right of return laws for the descendants of emigrants, and they're not too eager to let just anyone in if they do. Israel is the only major exception, but you do have to be Jewish.

If you have a lot of money, skills they need, relatives living there, or something else that would benefit the country you move to, they'll likely let you in.

Just like here.




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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:41 PM
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12. My family has a castle in Scotland...
a bit small and drafty though. Just as long as there's a pub nearby of course.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:28 PM
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13. Depends on the country
I looked into my countries of ancestry, but I'm one generation too far away for either Norway or Germany. For Norway, you have to have a Norwegian parent (I have two grandparents.) For Germany, you have to have a German grandparent (I have two great-grandparents.) I don't know about Latvia, but like most of Eastern Europe, it's probably not all that pleasant.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:34 PM
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14. Good Lord, I doubt it seriously
Maybe if the "ancestor" in question is your mom or dad, but some of my ancestors came from Scotland hundreds of years ago, some came from Germany over 100 years ago, and some are native. Could you imagine the chaos if every Scots-Irish person in the south picked up and moved back to Scotland?
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:09 PM
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20. Same here
I think that it dates too far back. My ancestors date back to the Civil war.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:34 PM
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15. spain is the only one i can think of
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:37 PM
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16. This may help.
Work and live permanently in New Zealand as a skilled migrant
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/Migrant/Stream/Work/WorkAndLivePermanently
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:54 PM
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19. Is Tonga still selling Passports for $10,000?
The fact of the matter is if it gets so horrible that living in this country is unbearable just go to some third world country and live in the jungle. Paul Theroux wrote an article about traveling to other countries without a passport and crossing borders at unconventional locations. Borders are irrelevant anymore just go someplace nice and try to scratch out an existence for yourself. Think about all the illegals in this country.
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ajacobson Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:57 PM
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21. LOL! I had a fleeting thought
of going back to the shetl in the Ukraine and growing potatos but you never know when the Czar's soldiers will come and open a can of whoopass on our Yiddish peasant asses.

Plus I speak neither Yiddish or Russian so I better just stay right right.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:07 PM
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22. No. Not every country does that.
Ireland, if you have a grandmother born in Ireland, you could be a citizen...that may have changed since over the past few years things have been going well.

I asked if Norway did that 15 years ago and their answer was no. It would be even less likely now.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:07 PM
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23. Wouldn't mind asylum somewhere
I've an ancestor who was exiled from Scotland back in the 1600's. (Possibly for not being Catholic.) I suspect I'd fit in. Last time there, locals were asking me for directions or urging me to vote in uppcoming referendum.

At work, we're all trying to get new offices opened elsewhere so we can transfer. As I don't care for London, site of our main office, I've been lobbying for Sydney. Only because I doubt Auckland or Christchurch, NZ have a chance.
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Nightowl_2004 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:09 PM
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24. I doubt it, Besides....
Won't you feel stupid when you hear about how the Democrats sweep the floor with the Republicans in '06 and '08. Stay here, the show's , The best is yet to come.......
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