I'm NOT moving to Canada

[Dogmudgeon]

I dearly love Canada, but I love my country, the United States of America, even more. There is no way I will leave my country short of an immanent threat to my life and/or liberty.

I'm not going. I'm staying here.

I will fight for liberty, democracy, justice and civilization.

That's "fight" as in work, struggle, vote, argue, build, advocate, convince, combine, plot, bicker, strive and fight some more.

And furthermore, I don't believe that Americans are "sheeple". The very word sheeple comes from the right wingers' own lexicon of cynicism. I do understand that many of my fellow citizens are misinformed, bamboozled, and otherwise in error -- but sheep? Never!

They are my friends, my neighbors, the teachers who taught me to read and reason and engage the world, the girlfriends whom I've loved and fought with and happily bedded and long wept over, the cops who've saved my ass on more than one occasion, the bosses who gave me a decent break and paid me a decent wage, and the soldiers who risked their lives to make this country a place worth living in and dying for. (As for the folks who "done me wrong", well, I figure that anyone can make a mistake.)

That's way too many people for me to let down.

So the vote hasn't gone quite the way we'd have liked it to. It's a setback, not the end of the world. It means that we have to lick our wounds, figure out what went wrong, and rejoin the fight.

I've wimped out on far too many occasions in my personal life. But when it comes to America, the stakes are bigger than just me. I don't intend to just roll over and let them take over.

So, Canada, thanks for leaving a light on for me, but don't make up the guest bedroom on my account.

I'm staying in the fight. Count me in.

--bkl

[telex54]

1. Thank you. n/t

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

2. Sorry

But I'm sticking around for four more years to get my education here in the US and then we'll see where I go. I'm applauding you for having the gusto to stay here, but I just can't. This drained everything out of me. I am so disenfranchised with both Republicans and Democrats right now. It's not just this election- it's everything. It's everything that we've done and the direction we continue to go that makes me want to leave more than ever. Maybe that's wrong, but it's how I feel. I'm bitter and sad and don't know what else to do. So yeah, knock my Canadian citzenship thread with this "feel good" American patriot thread all you want, but I'm done. I've had it. I don't want to be American if this is what it's all about. I'm *not* proud to be an American at this point in my life. I don't want to be associated with a country that has done so much wrongdoing.

[Gelliebeans]

3. Thank you

yours is the last thread I am going to read tonight. My eyes are puffy and my heart is full of disappointment but also pride to continue to fight, I nominated this thread because tomorrow when I wake and I am stronger I hope to start the day with your frame of mind
Peace

[Deja Q]

4. I will not move either.

Even if I could, I would not.

[geek tragedy]

5. I admire your valor but question your discretion.

I fear you are attempting to order back the sea.

[Dogmudgeon]

6. Hardly the sea

Even if the popular vote is accurate, it's still 51%-48%. This is far from a groundswell.

Our task has also become clearer, and the adversary is in plain sight -- it's the "Jeebus voters", the "Lifestyle Christians" who have waged superior culture war. The same unholy coupling that has given the world the Taliban and the religious innovation of Wahhabi Islam. (True Christianity and Islam are not to blame, IMO.)

This election -- assuming the current figures hold and are honest -- has turned on so-called moral issues. Well, MY moral issue is to resist theocracy, hatred, fear, and manipulation.

OTOH, if this election was stolen (via BBV, etc), it will be a simple matter of a high crime. In either scenario, the effort needed to put things right will be somewhat less than what Canute once attempted.

Don't give up.

--bkl

[NashVegas]

7. I'm Staying, Too

Should * win in the end, I'm looking at the silver lining:

* will now have to play their hands and expose whatever the hell else they've got up their sleeves.

The left will have 4 more years to agitate and be fiesty.

[ulysses]

8. thank you. n/t