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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 08:34 PM
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How many of you pass over the foot and end notes when you read?


Well you need to stop that immediately. You miss some really good shit when you pass over the notes. Example you say? How about the book I am reading now, which is titled Krakatoa. One of the footnotes pertains to Helena Blavatsky, who was the founder of Theosophy. http://www.blavatsky.net/

Now here is why you should read the notes. The footnotes in this book tells us that Helena Blavatsky believed that Lemuria, an island close by Krakatoa, was home of a people she called the “Third Root of Mankind.” Now listen to what she thought they looked like, they were fifteen feet tall, brown-skinned hermaphrodites with four arms, some possessing a third eye in the back of the skull. Their feet had protruding heels enabling them to walk either forward or backward, and their eyes were sited so they could see sideways.

Now, that sounds like a damn good Saturday night date. Especially the heels part, they must have been damn fine dancers. I mean with feet like that they could boogie.

I bet going to Theosophy church was a hoot!
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 08:37 PM
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1. I read footnotes.
I rarely read endnotes.
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 09:21 PM
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10. indeed
end notes are for lazy authors or piss poor printers. Footnotes are useful, and RIGHT FRIGGIN' THERE when you need them.

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Shanty Oilish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 08:38 PM
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2. The day I pass over anything on the page...
...will indeed be the day I pass over. :)
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 08:43 PM
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3. Hot damn! Just think of what I miss by not reading endnotes and footnotes
Edited on Sat Sep-13-03 09:12 PM by greatauntoftriplets
Now I want to know how she knew they were hermaphrodites. I can understand the 15 feet tall, the brown skin, four eyes and third eyes, protruding heels and all. But how did she check out the mixed gender? Did they walk around bare nekkid?

I think you need to get out more if that is your idea of a damn good Saturday night date. Or did you think they had rockers on their heels???? LOL.

Edited, rather belatedly, to fix stupid spelling error.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 08:43 PM
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4. Read Gibbons' footnotes in "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"
Woof! You'll get a whole sex ed course...!

Plus you MUST read the footnotes if you're trying to make it thru that very strange book, "House of Leaves"---making sense of it DEPENDS on it...
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 08:45 PM
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5. Damn!
Why didn't you tell me that when I was 9 years old and wanted to know?????
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 08:58 PM
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8. As a matter of fact I am right now!
That book is on my coffee table, within reach as I sit with a :beer:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 08:47 PM
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6. Never! We historians call that "mining for sources"
And we all go look at the same source material to draw sometimes-similar, sometimes-stark-different conclusions.

Notes are what it's all about...notes either accent or detract from an author's credibility.
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 08:54 PM
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7. I am SUCH a total geek!
When I was in elementary and secondary school, the teachers all said I needed to read everything, cover-to-cover, even the publication and title page. Since I was scared of my teachers, and I assumed their wisdom had been carried from god by the angels, I took them at their word.

It is AMAZINGLY surprising how much we can learn by reading these things. I've talked with people who'd read the same books I had but had completely missed some thesis or other major point that was explained in the Intro, fer crissakes!

Thanks for this posting. I think I'll print it and take it to my students to read.

:yourock:
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 09:17 PM
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9. "Never give up, never surrender!" -- Commander Peter Quincy Taggart
One of my all time favorite movies. :D
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 09:23 PM
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11. I always read foot and end notes ( I even read acknowledgments)
If the book includes a glossary, I check that out even when I know all the definitions--I just check to see the language they use to define the terms. And then there are the newer editions with the old and then the newer introductions, and occasionally followed by a text on the history of the publication. I am logocentric, possibly a logophiliac.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 10:37 PM
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12. Funny you should mention footnotes
I was reading Al Franken's book today, and he had a really long footnote with lots of of numbers and technical details and at the end he comments "I can't believe you are still reading this footnote". LOL! :-)
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KCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 10:54 PM
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13. theosophy--I did a paper on that once!
Have you heard of Feodorov? Damn, one whacked-out weirdo!
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 10:55 PM
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14. Never skip them
Critical information can sometimes be found in foot and end notes.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:28 AM
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15. Book on footnotes -- looks interesting
Edited on Sun Sep-14-03 12:30 AM by starroute
All I know about this is the description in the Daedalus Books catalog:

The Devil's Details: A History of Footnotes by Chuck Zerby

Footnotes, according to Chuck Zerby, are people, characters, heroes -- even sexual beings. These heroes' adventures are followed from their struggle for acceptance in the 17th century, through their predominance in 18th- and 19th-century literature and scholarship, to the undeserved belittlement they have received in the 20th. Publishers and scholars have employed them, of course, but also poets and novelists. In a new world of Internet and hypertext links, the book makes an extensively footnoted clarion call to preserve the form from the black hole of virtual reality.

"Footnotes are a site of limitless drama, a sort of anteroom where authors go to hash out with others or with themselves matters that are too controversial, too incidental, or even too risque to be included in the text.... In this short volume--festooned, of course, with a rococo profusion of bottom-of-the-page diversions and digressions... Zerby mounts a spirited defense of a little-loved and endangered species." --Boston Sunday Globe


Published at $24.00. Available for $6.98 at http://www.salebooks.com


For myself, I have to confess that where footnotes are concerned I am often tempted to read only the good parts, and sometimes skip those that are in languages I do not know or that consist entirely of arguments with writers I have never heard of. On the other hand, I have been convinced for many years that authors regularly conceal the secrets of the universe in the densest and most unpromising of their footnotes, and sometimes think regretfully that if I had been more perseverent with the ones I skipped I would have long ago attained true enlightenment.
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