Is smoking a form of suicide?

[LDS Jock]

You are doing something that kills you. Is there a timeline on suicide? If it take ten minutes or thirty years, isn't it all still the same?

[MsMagnificent]

1. Vonnegut calls them 'Coffin Nails' n/t

[Fenris]

8. He calls them that as he smokes his Pall Malls.

:7

[vetwife]

32. Isn't breathing in Bushworld a form of suicide?

Its the only drug I use ! Misty Ultra Lights...the only drug ! Period ! Don't even drink.

[MsMagnificent]

33. I think everyone in Bushworld

has an earlier death awaiting... is why its so important to GET HIM OUT!

[qnr]

45. Breathing period

If you breathe, you're gonna die eventually, so you'd better quit. Oh.... Wait.... That won't work either.... nevermind

[Placebo]

2. Hell no it isn't!

Unless you consider eating at McDonalds suicide, if you want to get into all the shit people do on a daily basis that's horrible for them and slowly killing them.

[ChoralScholar]

19. seems like to me,

if we don't know when we are going to die,
and we're all progressing towards death,
how would you know if you were hastening your own death
by eating McDs or smoking?

[Malva Zebrina]

3. Don't know--FIL smoked until the age of seventy and died at the age of 96

also had a shot of gin every night. Sturdy old, lovable bugger from Swabbisher Germany.

[Shoeempress]

4. yea, so is eating anything which isn't good for you, drinking, driving,

and breathing. (Never heard of anyone who died who didn't breath first).

[Placebo]

9. bingo

[Owlet]

5. Sure. Next question?

[Bluebear]

6. A view about whether smoking is suicide....

'It could be argued that a smoking death is suicide. While the tobacco industry may dismiss the dangers, any smoker with even average intelligence knows that cigarettes are bad for health but continues to smoke anyway. But I do not believe in classifying most of the smoking deaths as suicidal. Although a smoker knows the risk and still doesn't stop, it is not that he is trying to kill himself. He smokes because after becoming a nicholic, he doesn't know how to stop. As if his feet remains firmly glued to the accelerator, even when he knows fully well that there are good enough reasons to slam the brakes. And then Crash - Bang - Boom!!!!!

A smoking related death is more accidental than suicidal. For while the smoker may die today, his death was in great part due to his first puffs years ago. Similarly when a smoker started smoking (most start in their teens) chances are the dangers were unknown. Not only did he not know the danger, but also he was unaware of the addictive nature of nicotine. So by the time the dangers were known, he was hooked into what he believed was a permanent way of life. Thus age and maturity become powerless as far as smoking is concerned.

http://www.twilightbridge.com/deaddictions/smoking/deadend.htm

[UpsideDownFlag]

7. only for people who are slaves to the tobbaco industry...

:evilgrin:

[DIKB]

10. Had to say No

you're poll reminded me that a number of things are "bad" for us and slowly kill us. Red meat, fatty foods, etc. Anything done to excess is bad, should it be illegal ? HELL NO

Perhaps you'd prefer a chaste society where all bad things are illegal, check out Demolition Man if you want a view of that kind of world.

[LDS Jock]

13. I just asked.. me and a friend had this conversation

which is what brought it to mind. Thought I would post it here. There are MANY things which you could make a case for using as a slow form of suicide. Smoking is one, so it bad diet, lack of exercise, exposure to sun, drinking, drugs, maybe even prescription drugs. I do recognize the point being made, about living life in a way to increase health and life span.

[Lady Effingbroke]

11. I suppose overindulgence in anything which is known to be detrimental to

your health can be seen as a form of suicide, whether short- or long-term. :shrug:

[politicat]

12. Depends on your genetics...

My great-great grandmother smoked from the age of 22 to her last day of life at 97, a pack of Pall Mall. She died after being hit by a car. She was out taking her daily walk to get her daily pack and stepped in front of a truck moving faster than she thought.

I don't remember much in the way of wheezing or coughing, and I know she was active and healthy for her age. She started smoking in the 20s as a flapper and never quit.

Me? I may miss them, but even with the blessing of good genes, I'm not going to risk it. And while I like supporting the american farmer, I don't like supporting the tobacco companies.

Pcat

[Retired AF Dem]

14. Eat healthy

exercise, dont smoke or drink and you still end up dead. :)

[RebelYell]

17. I quit smoking, but

I sure don't want to be 92 and not able to wipe my own behind, either.

[MsMagnificent]

34. Ain't dat da truth! :) n/t

[WillyBrandt]

15. Of course not. Jeez!

[jpgray]

16. Only if eating shitty food is also suicide (nt)

[HEyHEY]

18. A form of stupidity

[huntsvilledem]

20. YEAH IT IS DUH

its a form of murder too if you smoke around your kids

[Nikia]

21. Tough one

My friend, a recovering alcoholic, said that in his case and most cases, heavy chronic alcohol consumption is a form of suicide. With smoking, I suppose that is is the same thing to an extent but smoking is more harmful to some than others. My grandfather said that he had no worries about developing cancer from smoking because there was no cancer in his family. He died in emergency surgery to repair an aoritc aneurysm complicated by being on blood thinners for his 2 recent hear attacks. Some people would say that was caused by smoking. Others would say that it was because he was overweight and developed type 2 diabetetes. Some would say it was because he didn't go to the doctor when he had his first heart attack because he was "perfectly alright."

[Endangered Specie]

22. By that logic...

eating unhealthy foods is suicide.
Driving alot/badly is suicide.

[barb162]

35. right

when are really sugary things ever wholesome

[sundog]

23. no

[ismnotwasm]

24. Not suicide

I need to change my vote, after I thought about it. But, say you're a 50 something overweight, sedentary, pre-diabetic, you are certainly on the right track to losing things. Like feet. Or if you have a family history of different cancers, well why not take one carcinogen out of the equation especially a major one? You want to know what emphysema is like? Take one of those little red coffee stirrer stick, you know, the one like straws, and inhale and exhale through it, ten times--now, that's not suicide by any means, emphysema, just exquisitely uncomfortable. I, too have had the occasional elderly person in my life who seemed to smoke and pay no price. Most of them however, when they did die, were miserable, in pain, and unable to breathe, with shot kidneys, lungs and heart.

[bigwillq]

25. I kind of think it is

But sadly that idea hasn't made me stop at least not yet.

Been trying to quit for awhile. Just can't seem to do it yet.

[Tangledog]

28. If it's any help...

Took me years. When I finally did kick, there were about 2 days in there I don't remember a damn thing about. I was going through Nicorette at about $15 a day. It wasn't the nicotine, there was something else the bastards toss in that drove me bonkers on the way out.

It's too late now that he's gone to his reward, but one thing I did while I was going through the withdrawal process was think about Jesse Helms. I thought about Jesse Helms praising Jesus. I thought about Jesse Helms sitting around a big table with his friends from Big Tobacco. And -- I swear I'm not making this up -- I thought about Jesse Helms pulling his prong every time I took a hit. In my mind, I made a connection between lighting up a smoke and giving Jesse and friends a fine reason to have a pudwank party. It worked! Haven't had one for eight years.

It'll happen when the time is right. And I hope your visualizations are happier :7.

[LDS Jock]

31. Congrats

I don't smoke, but know many who do, many who have tried to quit. I can see its hard, but have no idea what it is like to personally go through it. Good job!

[bigwillq]

40. Congrats on quitting

I will keep that in mind.

I also agree, when I'm in the right mind frame and when the time is right, I will quit.

[Child_Of_Isis]

44. I heard that it was the carbon monoxide

that was the true monster. Maybe they are lying to us and nicotine is not as addicting as we think. Maybe it's the damn carbon monoxide... gives us a buzz or something. If so, I've been stoned most of my life.

Okay, I'll also admit to being a conspiracy theorist. The government is always out to get me ;-)

[nini]

26. more of a russion roulette

but not suicide.

[VOX]

27. It is certainly a conscious ignorance of some rather specific facts...

Most notable of which is that it'll kill you.

[LiberalManiacfromOC]

29. why am i responding

really, I wanna know!

[jus_the_facts]

30. ISN'T USING COMBUSTION ENGINES A FORM OF SUICIDE?

.....YOU'RE DOIN' SOMETHING THAT KILLS YOU AND THE ENTIRE PLANET ALONG WITH YOU...ISN'T IT ALL THE SAME? :eyes:

[VOX]

42. Absolutely true.

:kick:

[Renew Deal]

36. That dog has two asses.

freaky :freak:

;)

[Sympleesmshn]

37. No

My grandmother was a smoker for thirty years before she got cancer. She live for 6 years but in the end it wasn't the cancer or smoking that killed her it was the cancer treatment.

[LanternWaste]

38. Sure it is. Is the same vein...

Sure it is. Is the same vein, tattoos and body peircings are a form of self-mutilation. Smoking's not in vogue anymore and is villified-- and one day, tattoo's and nose-piercing's will be percieved as culturally odd behaviour relegated to the dustbin of history...

[JVS]

39. No, it's a way to be cool

[NeoConsSuck]

41. It's a form of passive suicide..

although smokers always think the consequences of smoking will get the next person, not them.

I speak only for myself. I'm an ex-smoker, 101 days quit. A former 2 pack a day smoker for 36 years.

[Wilber_Stool]

43. Smoking is

cronic suicide.