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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:35 PM
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I don't care what anyone thinks, I like Dr Phil
I do, I watch his show and I think he is funny and smart and he gives people good advice. He is very good at figuring people out.

He's great, that is my story and I am sticking to it.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:37 PM
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1. Oh my God! Are you serious?
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 04:37 PM by unfrigginreal
You have my sympathies. :)
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:40 PM
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4. Yes I am serious
he calls people on their self indugent bullshit and denial.
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:50 PM
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8. That may be somewhat true
...but he is also coarse and cruel. Nobody who wants help needs to be treated that way.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:03 PM
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11. I don't think he is course and cruel
I think he is blunt but kind. I think the fact that he cares comes through. But he is very blunt and straightforward, I agree with that.

People know what to expect when they go on the show. If they are expecting Stuart Smalley they should skip Dr Phil. I think they go because they are looking for exactly his kind of directness.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:10 PM
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Well, if you start pimping for Dr. Laura like you are for Dr. Phil
I'll really start to worry.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:16 PM
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19. He's not anything like Laura
and I am not pimping for him. What a thing to say.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:24 PM
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23. Ha! I almost screwed up and left off "like you are for Dr. Phil"...
I'm just glad I caught it before hitting post 'cause I know you'd make me pay dearly. ;-)
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:10 PM
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17. People enjoy his show
...because they enjoy witnessing his abuse. If they themselves are subjected to it, their shame is overcome by the thrill of being on TV. It's the Jerry Springer effect combined with professional wrestling.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:47 PM
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28. Not at all
He is not abusive. I wonder if you have ever watched the show.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:37 PM
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2. If he is so smart why is he a republican?
How can anyone with 1/2 a brain be republican?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:39 PM
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3. Is he a republican? Is there proof?
I don't care. I know a few republicans I like.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:41 PM
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5. from newsmeat
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 04:41 PM by JohnKleeb
Contributor Candidate or PAC Amount Date
MCGRAW, PHILLIP C
IRVING, TX 75062
COURTROOM SCIENCES INC GRAMM, WILLIAM PHILLIP (R)
President
PHIL GRAMM FOR PRESIDENT, INC. $1000 02/02


http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=TX&last=McGraw&first=Phillip
Though Kevin Costner also gave a bit of money to Gramm, he also gave money to Clinton and Gore, more recently Kerry. I don't mind either really, what someone's politics are in the entertainment industry.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:49 PM
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6. Some people should begin all of their posts with:
"I don't care what anyone thinks".
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:05 PM
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12. It's great having a mind of your own
It's a gift.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:49 PM
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7. if you ever get a chance to tell him that
don't change the first six words in your OP subject line one bit!

:evilgrin:
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:06 PM
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14. He'd ask me how that's working for me and I would say
"just fine", that would be the end of the segment.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:50 PM
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9. i dislike him
not so much with his advice itself, but the CONSTANT commercialization. not to mention, IIRC, he's NOT a psychologisy


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:10 PM
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16. IIRCHe may not be a "psychologisy" However...................
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 05:14 PM by Cheswick

As a professional psychologist, he has published numerous scholarly articles and has practiced in the many fields of clinical psychology and behavioral medicine. Dr. Phil has a B.S, M.A. and Ph.D. in clinical psychology from North Texas State University with a dual area of emphasis in clinical and behavioral medicine. He has been a board-certified and licensed clinical psychologist since 1978.

http://www.drphil.com/about/about_landing.jhtml
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 06:51 PM
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37. my bad
and thank GOD you pointed out my typing error, because i might have spelled my own major wrong for the rest of my life :eyes:


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:53 PM
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10. His book "Relationship Rescue" is really good
seriously. He really does give good advice.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:48 PM
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29. he does give good advice
He tells people what they need to hear. He is one of the most common sense psychologists I have ever heard.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:05 PM
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13. All mental/relationship problems
Can be solved with a raising of the voice, folksy charm, and platitudes that would make Marianne Williamson weep from their obviousness and vulgarity.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:12 PM
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18. So his education and experience is not real because you don't
like that he is southern?

That fact that he has a doctorate in psycology and years of experience mean nothing to you?

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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:22 PM
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21. My, my. Testy for someone who doesn't care what other people think.
I happen to have been born, raised, and currently live in Texas, so that is a moot point.

Further, having a doctorate in psychology and "years of experience" does not justify faulty, oversimplified methods for treating patients. He comes off like something of a glorified Tony Robbins, less a psychologist and more a self-help speaker, and I sincerely feel sorry for anyone who thinks that such shallow surface examinations of complex psychological problems are sound.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:13 PM
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42. Woah, back up there, Cheswick.
Fenris doesn't like Dr. Phil. So why do you instantly play the 'you're a bigot' card? That's well out of line.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:07 PM
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15. Dr. Phil Is A Jerk (And I Ought To Know, Right?)
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 05:09 PM by arwalden
One thing I do agree with him on is his view on spanking children.

-- Allen

Edit: And what kind of idiots actually want to go on NATIONAL TV to reveal how disfunctional their families and relationships are?? Only to be cut down, insulted and humiliated by a loudmouth like him?? Are they nuts? Do they get paid?
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mairceridwen Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:19 PM
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20. dr. phil
totally gave it to this asshole father one day and I've liked him ever since. I still think he's kind of an ass, but I think he has tons of compassion he just presents it in a tough love, not letting you off easy kind of a way.

I'm sad that he's a republican, maybe he's one of those moderates who feels that Kerry will be a better repub than Bush.

My favorite repubican is Ben Stein because, how can you not like him. He actually referred to himself (regarding his republicanism) as one of the "nice" ones.
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Lizzie Borden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 12:00 AM
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39. I don't like Ben Stein.
I mean good god, he worked in the NIXON whitehouse. There are no good ones.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 01:00 AM
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45. I hope to God that last remark was sarcasm.
Anyone posting here who actually likes Ben Stein has some deep issues. Please get some help.

The man is a pompous prick, very full of his own importance, who has his head buried in the sand is all about the "me."

He worked for Nixon for chrissakes. And is most definitely not NICE.

FSC
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:23 PM
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22. My sister works for a private jet company
Like corporate jets and such...out of Dallas. She had the pleasure of dealing with him and his *people* last year. On top of showing up late, she said they (he most of all) were complete asshats; complained about the jet (even tho it was the exact one they'd requested) the meals (again, it was what they'd ordered) and any and every minute detail. AND she said he smelled funny.

I've never watched his show, but anyone can act like they care. His *real* life persona speaks volumes.

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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:50 PM
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30. Well that settles it for me then
Dr Phil smells funny. :7
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:24 PM
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24. "Hey, Phil, How's Discrimination Workin' for You?"
Ragged Edge, the Time or Newsweek of the disability rights movement, has come across at least two cases where the Dr. Phil show has treated people with disabilities like second-class citizens:

http://www.raggededgemagazine.com/mediacircus/sutz0804.html

"Discrimination towards those of us with mental illness is just as much a horrible act as discrimination towards people because of having AIDS or because of the color of their skin or their religion," says Neal David Sutz. And he's taking action to back his position up. Sutz is suing Phil McGraw, better known as TV's Dr. Phil.

When Sutz showed up to a taping of Dr. Phil's show last September 19, he says, he was asked to sign a studio audience release saying, among other things, that he's not mentally ill. That didn't go over too well....

"The producer I spoke with indicated that I could go in to the show as I had hoped, on the condition that she and I would each initial and then have me sign below on the signature line. I would also then, she said, have to not speak or communicate to Dr. Phil during the taping or interact in any manner with the taping of the show. In short, sit there, shut up and say nothing. She also said the reason for the statement was that Dr. Phil does not want to interfere in on-going therapy that someone with mental illness might be going through."...

This story should sound at least a little familiar to Ragged Edge readers: last fall we published a story about Dr. Phil allegedly discriminating against Angela Gaggero's friend, Shakeel, who, she wrote, "walks with canes, but... can climb stairs," and who Gaggero says was required to sit in the section reserved for disabled people -- which just coincidentally happened to be in a place where their view of the stage was obstructed and the (sic) they were invisible to the cameras. An amazing coincidence, that.


Well, I'm just as mad as a mother possum that got caught outside in Hurricane Ivan with her babies floatin' downstream on a log! </dr-phil> Out of sight, out of mind, is that it? Or is the mighty Dr. Phil concerned that he might not be able to handle the very real challenges of mental illness with a breezy "How's that workin' for ya?"? Hmm?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:55 PM
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32. I'll bet every body has to sign a disclaimer
It sounds perfectly sensible to me to make sure you are not interfering with ongoing therapy somewhere else. People do love to sue when they think there is a big payoff possible. Therapy with someone who is clinically mentally ill is not something to be done in his format.
Sounds like he is being professional.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 06:02 PM
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33. Well, then, what about the guy who walks with canes
and was forced to sit in a special "disabled area" off to the side -- and out of camera range??

http://www.raggededgemagazine.com/extra/drphilnightmare.html

Shakeel walks with canes, but he can climb stairs, so most access barriers don't stop him. We never thought we'd run into any problems.

Before the day of the show, we checked out the Dr. Phil website. All seating, we learned, was "general admission" -- the advice was to arrive early and line up if we wanted great seats. Shakeel made us arrive well over two hours before the gates opened so that he could have a good seat. When we got there, we were 20th in line. We knew our seats were going to be great!...

Finally comes time to enter the studio. The attendants seat us -- the disabled viewers and their parties -- first. The seating in the studio is a half circle of stadium seats; we are taken to the absolute worst seats in the place. We are all the way on the right, behind a big huge camera. Dr. Phil will be facing away from us the entire show; all we will see is his back!

We explain to the attendant that we can't see from these seats. We point out that we made the effort to arrive hours early in order to get good seats. Sorry, but all disabled people must sit in this section, she insists. No exceptions.


How's that for professionalism?
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:35 PM
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25. I dislike him
Did he not tell the war protesters to " get over it?"
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Lizzie Borden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 12:06 AM
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40. Yes! That's something I can't get past.
He said that people should'nt protest because it might lead to soldiers getting killed (?). He so totally doesn't get the idea of civil disobedience and that our country was founded on it.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:36 PM
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26. I like him too.
I do not particularly care if he comes off as an ass-hat. He does not let people rationalize their behavior - he calls them on their bullshit. I like that. And he does care, although that may not seem obvious. I've been watching him for years, since his Oprah gig. He is what he is - take him or leave him. I like him.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:46 PM
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27. He's a psychologist-entertainer....
just as there must be editorialist-entertainers, meteoroligist-entertainers, sportswriter-entertainers and chef-entertainers. In a free-market media environment, what else could exist? At least Dr. Phil, as others have pointed out, is grounded in good psycho-advice. What if Charles "Strangelove" Krauthammer were the TV shrink?

:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:51 PM
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31. He's an excellent salesman and very quick on his feet
But I don't like him, and I don't think his method is very effective in real terms. His show can be entertaining, though.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 06:04 PM
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34. He's like the bushies.... behind the good ol boy facade
is an arrogant asshole.

I'd like to know why his wife has to walk in and out of the studio with him?? :shrug:
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 06:06 PM
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35. I find him to be very meanspirited
I don't get the feeling he cares much about people. The few times I have watched him he has been demeaning and bullying to his guests. But that's why I don't watch him. Glad you managed to find something on the tube that actually entertains you.
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peacefreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 06:20 PM
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36. I think he has made some excellent points
but...I find some of his shows to be exploitive. When his first "Dr. Phil Family" was dealing with teenage pregnancy, it really bothered me that the audience was encouraged to vote as to whether Alex should keep the child or not. It felt like Survivor. Was she going to vote the kid off the island? It bothers me that there is a market for people's pain. That being said, I agree with him more often than not.
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Bat Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:30 PM
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38. I love him!
I love any psychologist who quits private practice because he couldn't stand his patients. Now that's honesty.

This realization led him to apply his degree to Courtroom Sciences (www.courtroomsciences.com) coaching Fortune 500 companies like Exxon in the subtle art of jury manipulation through the use of psychology. Hey, when you've got no evidence...razzle dazzle 'em!

Not to mention the fact that every PhD. in Psychology that I know watches his show. They laugh their asses off. Or they throw things at the screen when his blatant ethical violations get them angry.

The man is an utter charlatan. But he's getting paid, and isn't that the point really?
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:16 PM
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43. oh yeah
Oh yeah bat brother! THAT is the ultimate Dr. Phil The Phony post! :D
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 01:05 AM
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41. he strikes me as a superficial, phony person
cannot stand him
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:57 PM
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44. he states the obvious with such authority
that everyone thinks he's profound.
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