Conversation with FREEPED friend

[mark414]

this kid's dad is one of those hardcore right wingers, lots of guns, served in 'Nam (which i think messed up his head pretty bad), bunch of confederate flags in their basement...below is a conversation i started with him due to his screen name

mark says:
ed

mark says:
read this

mark says:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C114489%2C00.html

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
dont work

mark says:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C114489%2C00.html

mark says:
hmm

mark says:
well

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
okay now it does

mark says:
The statement tells American voters that Abu Hafs al-Masri supports the re-election campaign of President Bush: "We are very keen that Bush does not lose the upcoming elections."

The statement said Abu Hafs al-Masri needs what it called Bush's "idiocy and religious fanaticism" because they would "wake up" the Islamic world.

mark says:
besides, you seem to be insinuating that liberals don't care that this guy got beheaded

mark says:
and that's a bit disingenuous

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
most could probbaly give 2 shit all they every say is "were over there killing innocent poeple..."

mark says:
why are we in iraq

mark says:
let me ask you that

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
taking care of terrorism

mark says:
but what about all the evidence that shows that iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or al-qaeda?

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and the reports that show we let bin laden get away because we were so set on iraq

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not to mention the fact that the taliban is regrouping because there are almost no US troops there anymore

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
thats all cliche propaghanda that floods the media that is majority liberal supportive

mark says:
ed

mark says:
this is republicans saying that

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official government reports

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it's not propaganda

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did you know that two of bin laden's biggest goals were to get US troops out of saudi arabia and to get rid of saddam hussein? bin laden hated hussein

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and now most of our troops are out of saudi arabia and in iraq

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
i dont care who hates who ythey both need to get a knife across thier windpipes

mark says:
and i never said they didn't

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i want to get the people who attacked us on 9/11

mark says:
problem is, none of them came from iraq

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
they obviously need some kind of help if there is evidence that saddam has had chemical weapons in the past and used them on his own people

mark says:
ok

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but

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did you know that it was the US who gave him those weapons back in the 80's?

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people like george bush sr., ronald reagan, donald rumsfeld

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they gave saddam those weapons

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and knew that he used them on his own people

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but didn't do anything about it because he was still selling us oil

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
i doubt they would give them to him if they knew he was gonna do shit like that

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
i dont like bush or kerry

mark says:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/ look at that picture

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that's donald rumsfeld

mark says:
and look! saddam hussein!

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
but i'd rather vote for bush becuase its guy like kerry that have voted against veteran funding and healthcare and shut down numeras VA hospitols which affected my dad

mark says:
ok ok no

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here's what happened with that

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bush is actually the one who cut funding for VA hospitals

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he also cut combat pay

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
and i guess its okay for kerry to be seen in places with communist enemies...

mark says:
and are you talking about that $87 billion for our troops?

mark says:
communist enemies?

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
like during vietnam

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
haha

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
this is funny

mark says:
during vietnam? you mean when he killed communists?

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
or when he fires motar rounds on him self which dont even apply for a PH and wounds that literally were patched by a bandaid

mark says:
ed

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those are lies

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
if you ask me bush and kerry are both pussies

mark says:
those swift boat guys have been long debunked

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none of them were ever on a boat with kerry

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the guys who were on a boat with him, some of whom are republicans, swear that he told the truth, and the US Navy just said that kerry's medals were legitimate

mark says:
so does that mean the navy is lying?

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
theres actually no real proof because his medical documents were never released and it was kerrys medic that was the one that was the key player

mark says:
so you're saying that the navy is lying

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
and if he was wounded so honorable why wont he just release his documents?

mark says:
he has

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go to his website, it's all there

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don't believe everything you see on TV ed...

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
no they weren't i was listening to the exact thing on the radio today

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
take your own advice

mark says:
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/military_records.html

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i dont watch tv

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i research

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
me enither

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
i play doom 3

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
haha

mark says:
there are his records

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including his purple hearts, bronze stars and silver star

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kerry has done nothing BUT support veterans while he was in the senate

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i'm gonna go, but my only advice to you

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is if you hear something on the radio, or tv, research it a little before making claims about it

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
my dad just looked at those and those aren't the real health documents that would prove he even deserved those metals

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
those are just the cerfifcates

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
i'm talking about the health documents that would have shown he deserved them

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
my dad a vietnam vet int he navy would probalbly know alittle more about that shit than you

mark says:
i never said he didnt

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http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Personnel_Casualty_Report.pdf

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but how can you say he "didn't deserve it"

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the guy fought, and was wounded

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does he have to lose a limb to get a purple heart?

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
he wasn't wounded by the enemy thus NOT qualifying for a purple heart

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
and if you ask me a band aid wound isn't very acceptable either

mark says:
and you know this how?

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
HIS GODDAMN MEDIC

mark says:
a "band aid wound?"

mark says:
you mean louis letson?

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the guy from that commercial?

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
no

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
the guy that actually patched him

mark says:
so now you seem to be saying that any soldier who isn't hurt bad enough to sit in a hospital for a couple weeks doesn't deserve a purple heart

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doesn't that kind of denigrate a lot of our soldiers?

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
not fucking wounds that are covered by band aids

mark says:
he still has shrapnel in his leg!

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
hahaha now thats funny

mark says:
i just think it's wrong to tell someone who VOLUNTEERED to fight and who got wounded that he doesn't deserve to be honored because "he didn't get hurt badly enough"

another american was beheaded... i guess it shows more what were dealing with you liberal morons. says:
exactly because the motherfucker took advantage of it and was out of ther ein 8 months

mark says:
sort of like how bush got out of the national guard 8 months early to go to harvard business school?

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and kerry was actually there for 12 months

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there's a timeline http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/service_timeline.html

mark says:
he was there for a few months on a ship, came back to the US, then went back to vietnam where he then commanded the swift boat

mark says:
i gotta go ed, but take the time to look at facts and don't believe all the spin you hear

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kerry is a friend of veterans

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always has been and always will be

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later dude

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. "Liberal Morons"?

Perhaps Mark would like a smack in the snoot?

[mark414]

2. i dont get him

or his family...they're not poor but they're not wealthy, but they always seem to vote against their own self interests.

they're scared that the liberals are going to steal their guns and make gas $10 a gallon

oh, and the liberal morons thing is his screen name, i'm mark

[RandomKoolzip]

3. Does this guy just believe everything Rush and Sean tell him?

Jesus, Karl Rove is gonna be so happy.....his plans are working.

I weep for this fucking country. Used to be we weren't so gullible.

[gmoney]

4. If ever a post needed Cliff's Notes...

That screen name makes this IMPOSSIBLE to follow.

What's the gist of it?

[mark414]

5. kerry hates veterans and got band aid wounds!

he's a fucking pussy communist lover who HATES veterans

[LZ1234]

6. Mark, great answers to many of the lies being spun by the Repubs.

I'm curous to know what the freeper's reaction to all your explanations was because it wasn't clear to me in your post. I'm hoping it made a difference because I've been debating on whether to approach some fundamendalist friends of mine with some information.

[mark414]

7. thanks

i start working for ACT next week, canvassing door to door to talk about the issues, so i've been working on it and making sure i know my stuff!