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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:35 PM
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I just confronted Ralph Nader, ask me anything!
he spoke at my school today and then opened it up for questions.

i asked him how he could justify accepting large amounts of financial etc. support from republicans. i made the analogy that it's like teaming up with hell's minions in order to take on the devil.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:36 PM
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1. What's he say in response?
:yourock:

Great question to ask!
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:38 PM
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2. he told me that
while he believed that i was a very progressive individual, that i was falling into the lie that the democrats were throwing out there. then followed it up with his usual "the democrats are out to get me" bit

which they are, but he still didn't really answer my question
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:41 PM
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3. I see Ralphie
has become a true politican, dodging the tough questions about other shady goings on.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:15 PM
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5. so now he is judging who is progressive and who is not and judging
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 05:17 PM by Cheswick
people accordingly. Now I know where his followers get it from.

It sounds like he is as paranoid as he is a liar.

PS... no one is out to get him. They are campaigning against him and expecting him to play be the rules like everyone else.
If he had real support amoung progressives he wouldn't need all this help from the republicans.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:21 PM
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6. word up
all these people gave me dirty looks as i was walking out cause he took so much time defending himself thus limiting other questions
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:01 PM
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17. but, to his defense
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 08:02 PM by mark414
i prefaced my question by saying that i agreed with pretty much everything he said, and that i lose sleep at night over the prospect of another 4 years of bush (which i do), but i also said that i'm afraid that with another 4 years of bush, all these great things we talk about will NEVER be a reality
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:01 PM
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4. Excellent!
:toast:
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:23 PM
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7. Nader is an A+ wanker
Bush is only an A-
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:34 PM
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8. How large (or tiny, I should say) was the audience?
I can't imagine Ralph can get anywhere near the size of crowds he used to get, like back in 2000. Too many of us ex-supporters pissed off about how horribly wrong we were to fall for the "Tweedle-Dee, Tweedle-Dumb" bullshit (speaking of lies).

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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:44 PM
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9. a couple hundred tops
couldn't have been much more

i sat through an hour of his stump speech plus 20 minutes of some other guy JUST so i could ask him that question!
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:58 PM
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15. I hope he encountered a good dose of liberal and progressive hostility
Unfortunately, I think he's too far gone into the same fantasy realm in which his current supporters dwell to realize what the vast majority of liberals and progressives think about his "strategy".

I had an Anthropology TA back when I was in college tell a story about seeing him walking around muttering to himself. She (the TA)was at a conference where Nader's sister was one of the speakers (Nader's sister is in anthropology). This was in 2001. I was still a semi-supporter back then, but I couldn't help but believe it. He's always been eccentric, for one thing. I'm sure he's doing a lot more muttering to himself these days.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:00 PM
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16. unfortunately
i was the only one

i got a lot of hostility once i asked my question and when i walked out though!

lots of sneers and dirty looks, from hippies even!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:49 PM
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10. Did you ask why he's so contradictory?
I am in a political science course so we've studied the candiates including Ralph and Ralph at first talked about increase in poverty and other things these past four years ago but then he said that this isnt a dangerous time for a nation. God, really I cant understand his motives.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:54 PM
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13. no, but he never gave me a chance to follow up
he just went right on to the next question after spending 10 or 15 minutes not answering mine
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:56 PM
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14. damn sorry
stinks, I really didnt get that when he said that, I was like ok Ralph you know there's all these problems with our country yet you unlike most of the other lefties out there don't realize that this is one of the most dangerous times in our history. What also freaked me out was the somewhat chummy friendship Michael Bardanik and David Cobb had, I nearly puked when Bardanik said "Health care isnt a right"
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:51 PM
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11. wow, you're so cool!
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:53 PM
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12. gee thanks!
what would i do without your approval??
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:10 PM
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18. How does it feel, knowing that you're now my hero?
:thumbsup:
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:19 PM
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20. pretty good
no one has ever told me i was their hero!
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:12 PM
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19. Good job!
He also did a good job dodging your question.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:20 PM
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21. thanks
as the above poster mentioned, he seems more like a politician everyday!
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