You've gotta love iTunes

[MrScorpio]

They've got ten tracks of Kashmir, except the one by Led Zeppelin

They've got twenty-five tracks of Stairway to Heaven, including ones by Tiny Tim and (Get this) Pat Boone. But, oh... No LED ZEPPELIN.

Somebody fucked up at Apple.

Pay them the gawd-dammed money and get tracks on-line.

This is embarrassing.

[mark0rama]

1. I would love to see some Zeppelin at iTunes

But Apple can't force them to license the stuff.

They're also notoriously tight-fisted about allowing their recordings to be used in movies. As is their right, I must add. It's their music, their right to choose.

[Coventina]

4. But shilling for Cadillac is okay?

It seems like a strange choice to me.
:shrug:

[mark0rama]

5. Me too. I don't like the Cadillac ads either.

Cadillac originally wanted their "Break Through" campaign to be "Break ON Through," using a certain Doors song.

Highly recommended reading: The Doors' John Densmore wrote in The Nation about the temptation to sell their songs to commercials, and the importance of resisting it:
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020708&s=densmore

And don't miss a letter Tom Waits wrote in response:
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20021007&s=letter

[NashVegas]

9. Thanks for the Links

great reading.

[salvorhardin]

2. I use this site

AllofMP3.com
http://reg.allofmp3.com/shares/setencode.html?changeencode_mss=ENG

Legal Russian MP3 site with NO DRM crippled files. Also, on many of the files you can choose your own encoding and bitrate. Pay per megabyte (usuall 1 cent per megabyte, sometimes two cents).

[gmoney]

6. Yeah, uh, "Legal" Russian MP3s...

Just because you're paying some Russian webmaster does NOT make it legal. They're stealing and selling, plain and simple.

But whatever gets you through the night...

[salvorhardin]

10. Sounds legal to me

From their website:
"All the materials in the MediaServices projects are available for distribution through Internet according to license # LS-3М-03-79 of the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society. Under the license terms, MediaServices pays license fees for all the materials subject to the Law of the Russian Federation "On Copyright and Related Rights". All the materials are available solely for personal use and must not be used for further distribution, resale or broadcasting."

Also, see more details on legality here:
http://www.museekster.com/allofmp3info.htm

[Kellanved]

3. I'm not so sure that apple is to blame

The problem with older albums is that the old contracts do not mention the internet. For itunes the contracts have to be renegotiated - a task often difficult, sometimes impossible (songwriter/producers/singers/artists/... or their heirs have to agree).

[NewHampshireDem]

7. I think there's also a certain element of "roll out" in it too

Not having everything available all at once allows them to keep you coming back. I don't know that is the case with Led Zep, but it certainly seems to be part of the overall plan.

[gmoney]

8. You don't already have them?

I'd bet you already have all the Zep catalog three times over. You wouldn't buy it anyway from iTunes, so why should Apple bend over backwards to sign a deal with those relics?

Robert Plant is so cheap that when he opens his wallet, the queen squints, so they'd have to price it at $1.50 a track or so... and you'd bitch about that, too.

I'd much rather see Apple put their efforts toward getting the independent labels online. I know they're working on it, and are expanding their catalog, but there's still plenty of room to grow.

[MrScorpio]

11. I find a lot of indy dance and electronic mixes on iTunes

With LZ, I've got the catalogue on old tapes and albums but not the entire line on CD.

There is that $125.00 boxed set.

One day, I just may get it.

[LynneSin]

12. Damn, I've been wanting to download Pat Boone's "Stairway to Heaven"

:eyes:

[bikebloke]

13. bond's cover of Kashmir

bond is the leggy string quartet from Oz. (A bit pop/ disco-ish/elvator music. But a few songs are OK.)

It would have ben nice had it been engineered right. The strings were to take the part of Robert Plant's voice. In the Led Zeppelin version, Plant's voice slices atop the heavy Wagnerian sound. bond's strings drown in it.

[ChoralScholar]

14. No Zeppelin at Rhapsody either

and I'd be willing to bet pay-Napster does not have it either.

It's been my experience that there is some reason that a service does not carry an artist, and most all of the 'legal' services are missing the same artists.