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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:11 PM
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Poll question: If * wins in november, what will you do?
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:12 PM
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1. If he wins fair-and-square
then I'll live with the results.

I don't know if I'll still be a Democrat tho. If the Dems can't beat this guy, it's time to scap the party for something more progressive.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:14 PM
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3. And openly talk to the nitwit population who still vote for * despite
hating the employment and other problems.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:20 PM
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15. I'll have to do some serious contemplation too
I mean, I always had Democratic leanings/beliefs, but I always voted third party, because I am waaaaay liberal and the Dem party usually wasn't liberal enough for me.

But if he wins and it's not rigged, damn. Gonna have to re-check out any viable third party options. Me and about ten million of my closest friends. Then make it happen and kick EVERYONE'S ass, LOL!
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:13 PM
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2. Leave the country
but do what I can to organize a resistance movement from overseas
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carpe diem Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:15 PM
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4. same here...
I am seriously saving my $$$ just in case I have to start over in another land. I really am afraid of what this country will be if these people have 4 more like the last 4.
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Ghetto_Boy Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:15 PM
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5. The same thing I did 4 years ago...buck up...& wait.. BTW bush sucks
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BlueHandDuo Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:16 PM
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6. Cry
And withdraw into a blubbering mass of self-pity.

Then I'll decide what to do next.
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Shadder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:20 PM
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7. There really only is one choice
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:23 PM
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8. "Oh Canada Our home and native land!..."
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:24 PM
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9. My wife and I have already discussed the possibility
of moving to Canada if Bugsy steals another term. It would be unbearable for me to stay here knowing that someone could continue in office after the incredible amount of damage he has inflicted upon our economy, our international image, our spirit and our freedoms.

I love my country, but it is definitely not what it once was. I have a hard time imagining how it has deteriorated so. I pray that Kerry is elected and is able to undo the damage and restore some of the pride and dignity that make this country great.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:25 PM
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10. agreed eom
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:29 PM
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11.  but it is definitely not what it once was
Ditto....

It has become a "religion".
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:45 PM
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12. Secure all my assets, get my kids thru school and begin
my own withdrawl from the US. This has not been a free country in the last 4 years and I don't expect that to change under Bush for another 4 years.
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Race4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:13 PM
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13. I'm thinking of changing my sig...
if he wins, it's an all-out-dont-just-sit-there-with-your-head-up-your-ass Second American Revolution!
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:18 PM
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14. None of those answers fit
First I will cry for four days and pound my pillow and despair for my country and generally be in the SHITTIEST MOOD any human being has ever been in, ever, amen.

Sigh. THEN. I will pick myself up, dust myself off and say "motherfucker's gonna catch HELL the next four years and I'm gonna make SURE OF IT." Then I'll do it.

I'm really not a hostile, nasty person. And that sounded very hostile. But that's how I get when someone puts my child and grandchildren in debt for a lie of a war, causes the unnecessary deaths of thousands, and generally fucks up the country my peeps have been in since it was just a smattering of colonies, ya know?

I can't let my beautiful mind think on this any longer.
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Race4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:25 PM
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16. I'm a nicey too, but I agree.
I'm still a freshman in high school, and a bunch of kids say "why do you worry? it doesn't matter." and "cut your hair.it's not the 70's!"

but if bush wins, I'm gonna say the same thing that me and my car have said to each other.

and if it's not the 70's, then what the hell is it? the 60's?!?!?!?!?
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:29 PM
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17. Continue to fight.
What else could I possibly do? I love this country, and I ain't giving it to the neo-cons willingly.

I like Canada and I love Canadians, but I'm not running away from any-damn-body. (although, I wouldn't mind retiring in Scotland when the time comes...)
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:15 PM
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21. Scotland?
Well, OK. Can we live in a castle? :hi:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:34 PM
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18. Other: welcome the refugees (nt)
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:42 PM
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19. who said suicide?
you turkeys don't need to be so melodramatic. If Dems and good people sieze control of the Senate, House, courts, etc. we'll still have a fighting chance against these nazis.

And if their little "troop re-deployment" is ordered to start oppressing us, then there will be hell to pay and plenty of insubordination. And at least a few Governors will use the National Guard to defend us from Bush's mercenaries. And plenty of radical right-wing militias have been dreaming of fighting the feds for many years. I doubt it will come to that though.

So, let's just beat him OK?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:46 PM
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20. lol
the other choice was life worse than death... pretty harsh choices either way.
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 10:26 PM
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26. I said suicide - not melodramatic at all
Before any of you flame and bury me with the "You need to get help" routine, understand that I would NEVER suggest such an option for ANYONE else. Everyone's situation is completely unique, and I would never be so presumptuous as to try to steer their moral or spiritual compass. The old "Walk a mile in my shoes" concept applies here.

I've heard many folks declaring that should bushCorp somehow gain another 4 years of power, they would HAVE TO leave the country, unable to bear the consequences of such a scenario. For me, it goes way beyond that, and I am unfortunately unable to emmigrate. Starting in the '60's I vehemently fought most of the battles we're going through with the PNAC Dominionist Fundie Corporista Class-Warfare Starve-the-Beast Warmongering powerbrokers today: Civil Rights, Wars of Imperialism, Corporate criminality, rampant materialism, Gay Rights, Racism....For many older DUers who endured those "campaigns," there is an extra measure of angst now because we perhaps assumed that such critical battles would not need be fought AGAIN in our lifetimes, especially with an even harsher level of hate, intolerance, and amorality woven into our born-again opponents.

For the last 3 years and especially now, the realization that ONE HALF of Americans actually support the most flagrantly corrupt and anti-humanist cabal of my lifetime is a neverending nightmare. I have to brace myself simply to enter any public settings, knowing that HALF of the people who I encounter support and enable the evils of bushCorp. Most people have the enviable ability to turn down or filter their sensitivity to such depressing realities - I never could, and find it even harder now.

My life circumstances are private and unique to me, but suffice it to say that under another 4 years (and the longer-term manifestations) of this junta and their corporate-religious allies, I would bear the full brunt of ALL of their satanic social and political policies, short of personally fighting in their next invasion of choice. I have no children or grandchildren, and most of my immediate family has been polarized into an uncomfortable truce of silence by AWOL's relentless politics of division. Another 4 years would surely render a previously close and communicative family into just a painful yearning of what once was.

I'm thankful for having already experienced and accomplished more than I'd ever dreamed of, and am always "closed" with those whom I love and also with myself (will never draw my last breath thinking "I wish I'd tried that, I wish I'd told him/her how much I care"). I have always believed that the quality of one's life is infinitely more important than its longevity, and that an unending nightmare is no life to live. For most of you, the reality of another 4 years of bushCorp is NOT an unbearble nightmare, and I have the highest respect for your dedication to whatever battles must be fought.

Again, before flaming me please remember that all of us have very different and unique life circumstances. And please understand that anyone who knows me would probably tell you that I'm the most "sane" person around. For me, America's decision to embrace or reject the policies of bush & Co. is far more than a political statement - it's either an attempt to recapture our decency, or a willful dive into the abyss of unbridled amorality.






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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:32 PM
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22. ". . . it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it . . . "
"that to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed -- that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government"

If it's crooked, revolution.

If it's fair & square, I research emigration to Canada.
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:52 PM
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23. If by "any means neccessary" you mean something illegal or immoral,
I will not do that, but I guess I'll do what every responsible American would do: Pray, prepare, and get more involved in the process. Honestly, I don't think the world's going to end if Bush wins the elction. I do feel that if the current political culture that Bush seems to embrace continues to hold sway, we face truly dark days ahead.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 10:00 PM
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24. Withdraw from politics for about 2 years
Fortunately my area of interest is political history, so as a professional I need not incorporate current events into the classes I teach. For my own sanity, I would have to avoid politics for awhile, just to recharge my batteries and

I would also offer my services as a draft counselor to all young people who voted for Kerry (or people too young to vote in 2004).

Then around late 2006 after this country is engaged in a 3rd war and a second recession, I'd say "I TOLD YOU SO" to everyone who elected that fool.
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onebigbadwulf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 10:04 PM
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25. Stay in New Zealand
probably for the rest of my life!!

If Bush stays in power, the healthcare system is doomed.
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 10:42 PM
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27. So where are the 5 other "suicides", with reasons?
*See post #26 above
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 10:46 PM
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28. Canada's not going to look so cold any more...
But I'll stick it out and fight the junta (peacefully!) every way I can!
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bookfreak Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 10:53 PM
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29. I have no choice but to deal with it....
But if I were to suddenly win the lottery I'd pick up and move out of the country for the remainder of the f*ckwit's term. I'd send him a letter telling him that I was spending my winnings to stimulate the economy of some other country during his reign of terror, and would return once he vacated the oval office.
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