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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:25 AM
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Salvia Divinorum????
There was a write up in the local reptillian rag about this stuff, it sounds like the next thing the control freaks want to outlaw. This being a natural mind altering substance that may let the populace see things clearly. There is a website http://www.sagewisdom.org that goes into detail about this. Apparently it's a mood altering herb that grows in mexico and was used by the shamans.
Has anyone had any experience with divinorum? can you tell us anything about it?. Oh yeah it's legal for the time being.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:31 AM
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1. You can find extensive info
on Erowid.org

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:32 AM
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2. Why play craps...
with your brain chemistry? Been there, done that, got the t-shirt and the BJ. It's quite tedious.
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markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:36 AM
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3. If nothing else
It has pretty flowers...


--MAB

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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:38 AM
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4. oy - that stuff makes for some nasty smoking
and there is ZERO buzz to it, in my experience. Assuming we're thinking of the same thing. Grows on trees in the Yucatan, looks like dried mushrooms...

I'll take a liter of Herradura over that foul shit anyday.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:57 AM
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6. Naw, it is related to catnip, sage, coleus, mint.
and other broadleaf sages.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:02 AM
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8. I was comptenplating that very thing
I experimented with a number of legal highs in the past and none of them were very satisfying in the buzz department. I checked the price and for less money I can get some good skunk, so, I think that's what I'm going to do.
But it does have a pretty flower we may grow some just for that.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:56 AM
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5. i figured it was only a matter of time before the fascists wanted to...
...control this one. this is a safe substance that's been used for centuries by the native people in and around oaxaca.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:38 AM
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12. if God made it, then Repubes hate it
:evilgrin:
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:57 AM
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7. Didn't do anything for me
But, maybe I didn't do enough or I have a really high tolerance.




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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:13 AM
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9. it should not be controlled, this is scary
I'm not interested in consuming this plant, and I've heard conflicting stories about whether it actually does anything or not. What bothers me is that there are dozens, if not hundreds, of Salvia species. I do not need or want the gov't to come into my yard and start hassling me over my Salvia collection. To the best of my knowledge, none of my plants are hallucinogenic, but I do not trust a police officer to accurately identity them, for I myself cannot accurately ID all of them. Salvia ID can be a tricky area. And these are extremely valuable plants for the wildlife garden, as they can be used to feed hummingbirds, butterflies, and more. I do not want someone being able to "round-up" or even put my property in forfeiture because I have some hummingbird plants on the property. It is time to draw the line and find some way to get legislation that forbids the DEA from getting into the business of criminalizing plants. Where will it end? Kids have been making "drugs" from Brugmansia, morning glory, and more. Are we all to be viewed with suspicion because we want beauty in our lives? I understand that in this country it is already considered wrong to want beauty in our minds...but even in our gardens? Sigh.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:20 AM
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10. Then they better get rid of Bragmansia (aka Datura) also... since it's
known as the DREAM plant.

Oh wait, it Might already be illegal.

Put the leaves under your pillow, you gently hallucinate.. Lovely flowers. From Mexico.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:35 AM
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11. I tried it
Gave me a mild buzz and made my thighs numb. But I didn't bilocate or anything cool.
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