I'm an RA who just busted a resident for drinking while I was half drunk.

[kariatari]

Ask me anything!

[alexwcovington]

1. Hypocrite.

[kariatari]

3. actually. not really. i'm of age. they are not.

and they were being loud and obnoxious. and i am very cranky after move in weekend.

it's justified.

[alexwcovington]

11. Justify it however you like

You have to live with it.

[MercutioATC]

28. It's the difference between responsible drinking and idiocy.

I think there IS a difference. If you feel the need to become obnoxious whn you drink, somebody SHOULD deal with it.

People who drink are fine. Drunks are fine. The issue is social behavior. When you get obnoxious, drunk or sober, you deserve to be smacked for it.

[kariatari]

31. agreed. they would fall under the category of being obnoxious.

[maveric]

2. Forgive my ignorance but whats an RA?

[LastKnight]

7. Resident Advisor

college dorm advisors and babysitters, basically. is what it usuially means... but sometimes it can mean something different, only thing that comes to mind.

-LK

[Rowdyboy]

17. Resident Asshole when I was in school...

Seems like nothing much has changed...

[alexwcovington]

20. Pretty much still that way apparently

[kariatari]

39. pretty sure i've been an RA for 2 years and have only written ppl up 3x.

that's pretty damn un-asshole-ish if you ask me.

[kariatari]

12. resident assistant in a dorm.

policy enforcer, program planner, percieved personal bitch to some residents. that kind of stuff.

[MercutioATC]

13. Resident Advisor...kind of a "dorm manager".

...at least that's what they were when I was in college.

[Syrinx]

19. student boss on one level of a dorm

resident adviser or something.

[northstar]

25. Resident Assistant

...usually an upper classman who gets the best room on the dormintory floor - IN EXCHANGE for, being the resident 'mom' for the underclasspersons. Someone who the student residents can come talk to....the 'living room' of the floor, if you will....It's a pretty big responsibility for someone, it's pretty cool actually.

on edit: Let me change that - can be 'cool' (I guess I was lucky), can be 'unholy' with the wrong person as RA

[Maddy McCall]

4. So? Get off on wielding that little iota of power, eh?

[HEyHEY]

5. I can't fucking believe the US sometimes

If you're old enough to go to college, you're old enough to drink there...21 is stupid

[kariatari]

15. agreed.

[alexwcovington]

Here here!

If MADD would learn the difference between drunk driving and the drinking age, we'd all be better off.

[WindRavenX]

32. word up

Having bottle of Stoli should be legal when you are legally an ADULT- age 18.

[Syrinx]

6. are you a freeper or just an asshole?

[Maddy McCall]

10. Not mutually exclusive, my friend. :-)

[Syrinx]

24. all freepers are assholes

But not all assholes are freepers. :)

Hey!

[Maddy McCall]

27. Hey to you!

:hi:

[Rowdyboy]

41. Jill, you ar BAAAAADDDDDD!!!!! You realy are very bad

[Maddy McCall]

44. LOL! Well, I just aint up for much shit tonight. :-)

[kariatari]

22. hey. i gave them a warning already tonight. which is more than generous.

[MercutioATC]

33. She sounds like a responsible RA. Are YOU a freeper or just an asshole?

:shrug:

[Syrinx]

59. did you read what I responded to?

Are you one? I don't need no shrug here.

[MercutioATC]

61. Yes, I did. Did you read the rest of the thread before you posted?

:shrug:

:shrug:

[Syrinx]

67. yes, very early in the thread

Pay attention to the thread lines please, at least before accusing me of something I didn't do. A cop who arrests someone for doing what they are doing is a a narc and a fascist and at the least a freeper.

[Rowdyboy]

8. Did you touch them in their naughty places? If not...

Why didn't you?....

[Maddy McCall]

16. LMFAO!!

[kariatari]

29. no. but if i were a guy or gay i woulda because they were definitely hot.

[HEyHEY]

9. Cut them slack on the basis

that 21 is stupid legal age

[kariatari]

23. like i said, i had already given a warning.

and they were bothering other residents.

[Bombtrack]

14. Already back at college huh? I don't have to go back for 2 days

what am I doing online

[TheMightyFavog]

21. I don't move in thill Saturday.

I can't wait.

[elperromagico]

18. Who will POLICE the POLICE?

:D

[WindRavenX]

26. Unless they were a danger to anyone, leave them alone

My RAs at Boston College have a kewl system: unless you're 1) a danger to someone 2) wicked obnoxious to people who don't want to be harassed they leave you alone. Hell, my RA even drank with us- she was awesome!
We also bribed other RAs with cookies, never got written upO8)
Seriously, cut us some slack. We have enough stress and we just want to cut loose
Sincerly,
a drunken college student :D

[kariatari]

42. that's typically what i do.

the only previous times i've written people up for alcohol was when it involved banging on ppls doors at 3 AM, wiping poo on the wall, and throwing furniture out the window.

[WindRavenX]

51. ewwwww...poo on the wall?

Damn, no matter how smashed we were, that's something I NEVER would think of doing x( x(

[kariatari]

57. yep. and in a girls' bathroom. was not impressed.

[Behind the Aegis]

30. I'm an AC, I have nothing to ask you, but something to tell you

If you are of age and it is not a dry building, then you did nothing wrong (unless you were on duty or making rounds). However, what type of example are you setting for your residents? Some will see you as a hypocrite and that will be a tough label to shake. It might have been better to have called the RA-on-Duty or a sober colleague. Be ready for some backlash. Best to tell your HD now, so s/he will be ready during the judicial hearing.

I am a former Area Coordinator and that is what I would tell my RA staff!

[kariatari]

34. wasn't on duty.

and was w/ another sober RA. don't think the residents knew i was a bit tipsy.

[MercutioATC]

38. Who cares if you WERE tipsy. You weren't causing a disturbance.

That's the central issue. They were obnoxious and got in trouble for it. That's the way things are SUPPOSED to work.

[Behind the Aegis]

43. very good!

That is good to hear! Residents look for ANY sign of "weakness" in a RA! I have had many a good RA get treated poorly because of misconceptions and the fact they were just doing their job. I have been a RA, an asst. Hall Director, Hall Director, and Area coordinator, there is not much I haven't seen!

Brightest Blessings!

[kariatari]

45. haha thanks! ;)

my hall coordinator has told us some hilarious stories about stuff he's done as an RA, but hasn't told us the best of them. he said he'd never want his RA's to do half the stuff he did as an RA

[Behind the Aegis]

50. good times!

We never want our RAs do what we did! We were just as bad as you all are! You know that residents think RAs are all "goody-goody" and oddly enough, RAs think that of their HCs...well. it not true! :) We have all been around the block a few times and have more than a t-shirt to prove it! :)

Brightest Blessings.

[Maddy McCall]

35. Or they'll just shit on his toothbrush...

and I wouldn't blame them. :-)

[MercutioATC]

36. She didn't come down on them for drinking, they were disturbing people.

It's an RA's job to "babysit" a dorm. Drunk or sober, dorm residents aren't udually permitted to disturb other residents.

[Behind the Aegis]

48. i get it now

I know what a RA does, I am in the field! My concern was the "appearance" of inappropriateness. Residents will latch on to anything when they get in trouble. However, in this case, it appears the RA was doing what she was supposed to do, confronting (with backup), and taking an appropriate response to the situation. I was more concerned at the initial post and will admit (hangs head in shame) I did not continue to read the post, so I was unaware there was backup and the initial complaint was noise not alcohol.

[MercutioATC]

52. Sorry, I'm just in a pissy mood tonight.

Sorry for jumping on you. :spank:

[Behind the Aegis]

55. don't sweat it!

I appreciate the apology, although it wasn't necessary. :) Sorry to hear you are in a pissy mood. I hate those moods. I have had a few recently (still unemployed after 14 months). So, I hope things perk up soon! :toast:

[MercutioATC]

60. Sorry to hear about your job situation...I've been there.

Hope things turn around for you soon.

:hi:

[Behind the Aegis]

63. Thanks!

As long as I keep trying, then there is not much else I can do. So....I keep on, keepin' on! :) Jobs are tight, even in Higher Education, and it didn't help that I had a reference who was sabotaging me! Life is a bitch, but then again, so am I! ;)

Brightest Blessings!

[MercutioATC]

66. Same to you!

Best of luck with your job search (and all of your other searches).

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[bloodyjack]

40. "NO DRINKING WHILE I AM HALF DRUNK!!!!"

And just for the heck of it I'm going to tell you that I don't think it's very nice to sort of BLACKMAIL your subordinates like that

[MercutioATC]

46. Did you even READ the rest of the posts in this thread?

This isn't an alcohol issue, it's a behavior issue. You're condoning obnoxious drunks?

[bloodyjack]

53. yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. I am condoning obnoxious drunks.

the question here, I feel, is whether or not the OP had prior knowledge of the students' drinking before she busted them.

if she didn't, I don't see any real moral dilemma here—the kid was acting like an ass, disturbing the other residents, etc.

if she did, however, I think there's a problem. Either get the kid in trouble for drinking or ignore it—simply don't involve the campus police or whoever when it starts to become a nuisance

[MercutioATC]

54. I don't think I'm understanding you...

Why is prior knowledge of the students' drinking an issue? (assume she did have prior knowledge...they were acting drunk)

I didn't get the "moral dilemma" thing at all. Perhaps you could explain your third paragraph.

[bloodyjack]

58. because if she DID have prior knowledge (i.e., something more than a hunch

or unreliable intuition...more at tangible evidence) then she too was culpable for their already illegal behavior. only when this behavior apparently became disruptive did she take responsibility and call campus cops, when she should have acted thus from the very outset (when she initially discovered they had were getting hammered).

either way, the OP suggests that she called the cops on them as soon as she discovered WHY the kids were being disruptive, so I guess she's blameless

[MercutioATC]

65. Ah, ok. I get you.

I believe an RA is more effective when they allow minor transgressions to go "unnoticed" unless they turn into bigger issues (like disturbing other residents).

[kariatari]

56. campus police were not involved. police not involved at all.

which is actually better for the resident, because they won't get chaged $145 for minor in possession that will go on their permanent record. all they'll do is meet w/ the hall coordinator and get their first warning in a 3-strikes-yer-out policy.

[bloodyjack]

62. well I suppose I jumped the gun then, didn't I?

Sorry about that.

[kariatari]

68. haha, no worries. ;)

[JVS]

47. Did you confiscate anything to get through the other half?

I once saw my RA at a house party. I waved hello

[kariatari]

49. hmmm. no...

unfortunately, we make them dump everything down the drain. but they were drinking keystone, so i didn't feel so bad about it.

[onebigbadwulf]

64. NZ did it right. The legal age here is 18

If you can die for your country you can have a sip of beer!