Ever get ribbed for being a Liberal by an absolute idiot?

[Misunderestimator]

Went to a company party last night and had the misfortunate of sitting next to one of the dumbest and dullest idiots I know... He happened to see the wallpaper I have on my phone, which was a shot I took at a Kerry rally, and surprise... it turns out he's a conservative, dumb, dull idiot.

He sends me this email this morning:

Thought you'd appreciate this!:)

"The Secret Service has announced it is doubling its protection
for John Kerry. You can understand why - with two positions on
every issue, he has twice as many people mad at him." - Jay Leno
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To which I responded:

Oh hahaha that's so funny. I guess you'll enjoy this then:

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
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To which he responded:

As a liberal you should understand that he had good intentions with what he said. So he misspoke - I do it all the time.
Mine are called ****isms. You have to look past the words and get to the real meaning.

It's a shame that you and I can't work more closely with each other. I strongly feel with the proper time and coaching you could, in fact see the light, and join the group of goodness and mercy that is the Republican party. Not that I'm necessarily a republican...I'm more of a conservative. The party left me years ago.

Have a lovely day.
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To which I responded:

Oh lord. That's just about the funniest thing I've read all week. Keep living in your fantasy world, that our country hasn't been nearly destroyed by a greedy, selfish murdering bastard. There's nothing on earth that would make me put on those blinders you seem to have. Have a lovely day yourself.
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To which he responded (ugh):

We could keep this going all day. We better stop before it gets bloody.

Talk to you later
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Why do I even bother... now my blood pressure is up. Irritating little shit. Definitely not worth bloodying anything over.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

1. Happened to me last wednesday...

And I'd get part of a thought out, and the bastard (A BLACK Republican) wouldn't let me finish, he'd berate me and not let me get a word in edgewise. Fucking pissed me off and he sure felt good about himself, and asked me if I felt guilty about being a liberal now. I said, I only feel guilty about ever thinking you were a good guy. You're a piece of crap who doesn't want to hear anyone else's opinion. You just want to hear part of the story and taunt people. That's ignorance, and I'm really glad I don't work here anymore. No wonder everyone thinks you're an ass. And then I walked out.
DUckie

[Misunderestimator]

7. Good for you!

:thumbsup: "No wonder everyone thinks you're an ass!" Perfect.

[cleofus1]

2. sure...it gets pointless after awhile...

I love it when they ask me why I hate America.


I always say, "I don't hate America...I love America! I just hate Republicans..."

that usually shuts them up (for about 3 seconds)

chin up...just keep poking em in the eye...after awhile you'll find that not only is it fun...but it's good for you too!

[underseasurveyor]

34. I turn the 'hate' thing back onto them.

When asked why I hate America or whatever it is I supposedly hate, I say, 'Humph, are you ever confused. You have just confused my anger for your hatred. It's no wonder you're so lost and disconnected.'

I try and avoid saying I hate anything. Cuz if ya do that's all they'll focus on anyway.....SEE, SEE You admit that you are a hater. :eyes: Idiots they are, but I don't "hate em." ;-)

[shaolinmonkey]

3. Goodness and mercy? Republicans?

He must be talking about the happy puppy party. I think your friend is confused.

I've found that the hardest part of arguing with conservatives and republicans is that they are usually too proud/stupid to admit that they're wrong. It's hard to argue with a fencepost.

[Misunderestimator]

6. Yeah, the "goodness and mercy" part made me choke on my coffee

And believe me... this guy is the stupidest cog in the wheel here. I had zero respect for him in the first place, and now he's descended into oblivion. At least I don't have to be polite to him any longer.

[Webster Green]

4. "goodness and mercy that is the Republican party"......

Well, that pretty much sums up how utterly confused that guy is!

[ContraBass Black]

5. My best friend, who has allways been intellingent,

caring, and moderately conservative called me an extremist yesterday.

[yardwork]

100. I've lost a friend over this BushCo

I always knew he was conservative, but when he started taunting me about supporting Kerry, I asked him how he could seriously support shrub after everything that has happened. This back and forth went on for a few conversations, until one day he said it was too bad that we need the oil in the middle east, otherwise we could just drop a couple of nuclear bombs and wipe out the whole area.

I said, "That's really Christian of you," and he was insulted. He's Catholic. Since then things are polite and stilted between us. He was the best man at our wedding twenty years ago. I'm kicking myself for having been his friend all these years.

[BlueJazz]

8. I usually just "get in their face" with facts....

..like the Nations Debt, employment, jobs created, corporate welfare,
tax breaks for those who are rich and tax loopholes, our standing in the world .....and more.

What usually REALLY gets them is a (partial lie) when I say:
"Why do you vote for someone who is not even half as smart as YOU are?????" (They don't know what to fucking say on THAT one!)

[Misunderestimator]

10. LOL... well this guy could actually compete to be as stupid as Dubya

Which is probably why he supports him... It's probably done wonders for his ego to have someone with the same intellectual capacity as himself leading our country to ruin.

[Commendatori]

9. I get this all the time from co-workers, and

although I'm very liberal on social issues, I'm not terribly liberal on fiscal issues.

So instead of arguing whether my idea for a top marginal rate for federal tax (49.9%) is better than theirs (33%) or whether their should be an earnings cap on FICA witholding, we argue about social issues, and I was recently called a "naive idiot" for not having the "vision" to realize how much better the world would be if public schools were Catholic schools, if kids wore uniforms (I thought we Dems were supposed to be the the "collectivists who fight against all individuality"), if prayer in school were allowed, if abortion was allowed (gun laws don't work, but abortion laws would?), etc.

Worst of all is that if I had a dollar for every time I have gotten this "ten suggestions to Kerry for a more sensitive war" e-mail, I'd be advocating a tax rate of 49.9% on myself :)

[Misunderestimator]

17. Glad I haven't gotten an email like that...

I showed my boss the series of emails. He rolled his eyes as he read and said "He's actually going to try engaging you like this? What a fool." Most people around here know better :D

[Gyre]

11. How about "don't you have some work to do little boy?"

And if that doesn't work then tell him you've got work to do and he's interferring, but if he'd like to meet you out in the alley after work then you'll be happy to listen to him then. (third part is optional depending on your mood or proclivities towards physical violence)

Gyre

[Misunderestimator]

13. I like that.... "little boy" ... gets them every time.

And he's about 4 inches shorter than I am, so I'll make sure I say it while I tower over him :)

[Misinformed01]

12. Nothing is worse than having to suffer a fool

the jolly ones are the toughest--other people's pain means zero to them.

Put the moron on "ignore" in your life.

[Misunderestimator]

15. How I long for an "ignore" button in life...

And you're right... it's that jolly crap that goes along with the insipid, selfish, stupidity that just riles me.

[samplegirl]

I think it happens to all of us

I had two retired school teachers approach me in the store over my
Kerry button.
Imagine that???????? Bush supporters!!!!So much for the loyalty of
teaching I guess once your out.
Anyway we kinda got in an arguement...and I really didnt care who
in the store heard me. They seemed to backoff...when i reminded
of how lucky they were not to have to worry about no child left
behind now...and all they had to worry about is there prescripion
coverage.

[DS1]

14. Goodness and Mercy! *thwap* Say it! *thwap* Goodness and Mercy!

*beat* Say it! Goodness and Mercy!!!! *pummel*

YEEAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

[Misunderestimator]

16. ROFL... I think maybe he just got finished reading the Lord's Prayer

or something... "Surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life"... *shudder* (at the thought of Republicans following me forever)

[DS1]

20. It's always amusing to see the biblical types quick to talk about

things getting bloody. Maybe he was planning on crucifying himself to suffer for your sins :eyes:

[rasputin1952]

18. Some 6 or 7 months ago, an idiot RW'er in line in the store...

I was in, just started tlaking about how "great" bush is. I didn't ask for this, but felt compelled to ask him, "Can you tell me ONE thing that bush has EVER succeeded at"?

He shut right up, for about 30 seconds, you could have heard a pin drop, and everyone in line was looking at him. He got livid, and said, "Look what he did in Iraq"!

To which I responded, "Yes, look what he did in Iraq, some 600+, (at that time), KIA; some 11,000 PH's awarded; 10's of thousands of innocent Iraqis and Afghans dead and maimed. This is your idea of success? Where are all those WMD's? Where was the threat? Where is Osama?"

He boiled, then just left his cart in the line and left the store. He could not fight the truth...and he knew it. I am sure he will vote for bush in Nov, but I am also sure, he has no reason why; he will vote by rote.

It is sad really...:(

[Misunderestimator]

21. I asked this guy the same thing last night...

And got the same non-response. I really don't get it. How blatant does it have to be for them?

[Endangered Specie]

19. All the bloody damn time...

when I meet new people especially... but its worth it when I meet one who is like us.

[redqueen]

22. His denial that he's a republican says a lot.

Be proud you stood up to him. :)

Not worth raising your blood pressure over, but just a few deep breaths should end that, if it's even still up.

[Misunderestimator]

24. Yeah I thought that was odd... with the whole "goodness and light"

of the Republican party... he turns around (flip-flop anyone?) and says that the party left him. Yeah, I'm way over it already... plenty of other things to get riled about. :)

[redqueen]

35. Oh and btw, to answer your question

I get it regularly - I'm related by marriage to them... ugh!

[underseasurveyor]

23. A few times this has happened

Where I use to work, being the minority Liberal I took a lot of ribbing about my anti-dim son views. I just smiled, sometimes laughed at what they were saying, but on the inside sometimes I was steamed.

Then I decided such apathy and ignorance wasn't worth my own peace of mind and well being. So rather than argue or 'debate' the issues after they finished regurgitating sound bites I'd look at them with a marveled expression and say something off-the-wall and sarcastic like, 'WOW did you learn that all by yourself from the TEE-VEE? Oh how proud you must be that you have fooled yourself into believing that you're SOOooooo well informed.'

Or I might say, 'My aren't you just the perfect example and proof that they are truly getting their monies worth.' When they ask, who is they I reply with, 'well the Think Tanks of course silly, I thought you said you were informed, you've certainly heard of them? (slight pause, give em a chance to answer. If they stammer with, why uh yea I heard of em- you know their lying) You know the ones that are spending millions upon millions of dollars to bend your brain and form your opinions for you. Like I said, you are living proof they are getting an excellent return on their investment.'

Issues, they don't want to talk about no stinking issues. Besides, I'd rather give a resentment than get one ;-)

[Brewman_Jax]

25. Same here

I heard how Bush* was a good man and he goes to church and he's good for the economy, blah, blah, blah.

Time for the Hammer of Truth

To that I asked, "What good has Mr. Bush* done for you?"

Reply: He's a good man, he goes to church, blah, blah, blah.

I said, "That's very nice, but what has he done that helps YOU? Your orders are down, you and I know too many laid-off people, the economy stinks. Now answer the question, what the hell has he actually done for YOU?"

Silence. Then, "How 'bout those Braves?"

To be a Bush* supporter, one has to live in a different world.

[Misunderestimator]

26. When I hear someone say that Bush is a Christian and a good man...

I ask them how many Christians they know that have killed thousands of innocent people because of a lie.

[lpbk2713]

27. He nailed down the secret to Smirky's success precisely.

In other words ......... don't pay any attention to what Shit-for-Brains says, just assume he said what you wanted him to say. What pathetic little sheep. We need to rescue this country ASAP from idiots like this. November won't get here soon enough to suit me.

[BigMcLargehuge]

28. jeez, his messages just DRIP with condescention

I can't stand when coworkers or in my case more often than not, in-laws, pull the same routing with me. The only difference between our approaches is I don't let up. I make them say uncle. It tends to keep the political arguments to a minimum.

Nice answers you had Misunderestimator!

:)

[Misunderestimator]

29. And condescension from someone who doesn't deserve an ounce

of my respect is utterly annoying. Got the same treatment from my ex's family too... and I never let up either... probably a big part of why she's my ex now. :)

[ScreamingMeemie]

30. Every day.

:hi:

[Misunderestimator]

32. Won't it be nice to gloat in November?

The alternative is unbearable, so I choose to assume the best.

:hi:

[ScreamingMeemie]

41. I'm counting the days. It is going to be the best.

I know it is. :hi:

[johnnie]

31. Unfortunately there are too many idiots out there

I am one of the few liberals in my office, and I gave up long ago even talking about things with the others. The two other engineers I work with are all for bush because he is a "Christian" and is pro life. (Except when it comes to anyone that is out of the fetal position).
I know it can really get to you when these people spout their crap, but it's best to just try to let it go.
The only thing I know for sure is that there have been a few people who voted for bush last election and have told me "anybody but bush". That is a good sign and hopefully November will shut the idiots up. But I am sure that when Kerry wins, the morons will spend millions of taxpayer's money on stupid "investigations", they hate to lose and the republican party are filled to the rim with crybabies and spoiled shitheads.

[JVS]

33. Oh yeah, but who hasn't

[LynneSin]

36. But the $64K question: Does he know you're a lesbian to boot??

damn, that would probably make him go ballistic

[Misunderestimator]

39. Everybody knows I'm a lesbian...

even before they meet me... my reputation precedes me :)

I do get stares all the time, I assume because of that, and because the company I work for is good-ole-boy conservative.

[LynneSin]

40. I was talking about that guy specifically since he's a neo-con repuke

trying to recruit you for the republican team. I figured if he knew you were a lesbian he'd probably attempt to recruit you for the straight team too

:crazy:

[Misunderestimator]

42. Yes, he knows... or he's completely oblivious...

Not like I wear a badge saying I'm gay, but I'm pretty high up in the organization, and the gossip around here is ripe. I've heard from the FEW other gay people here that everyone knows about me, even if they don't know about them.

As for recruiting me... the thought of that just made me gag. :puke:

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[Mara Steele]

49. Now WATCH THIS DRIVE!!!

...Sorry, it just seems so appropriate in this situation...

:D

[Richardo]

51. That's hilarious, Mara Steele...

hahahahaha! :D

[Mara Steele]

80. Why, thank you!!

Nice to have some stooges around to tell me "Good Shot!" when I need it!!

I didn't even have to ask you this time!

:D

[Richardo]

81. The subtle *thwack* to the back of the head works 9 out of 10 times...

:D

[Misunderestimator]

54. Cute

:thumbsup:

[Mara Steele]

43. Aw, don't bother Mis.

He's prolly an OK guy, just a repug unfortunately for him...

Feel sorry for him, be civil, ya can't win everyone!

:pals:

[LynneSin]

46. You have a great point

a rabid repuke (he has a picture of George & Laura hanging in his cubicle) that I know of ran into me on Monday as I was leaving work.

We were both walking to the parking garage, I had just left the gym and I still had my minidisc playing (Out on the Tiles by Led Zeppelin just started). He tapped me and then started in on his repuke spiel which I noddingly obliged him with some retort. I managed to switch the subject to music (we do agree on something), but when it got back to politics I just smiled and put my headset back on. I'd rather listen to "Out on the Tiles" than someone spiel repuke crap ESPECIALLY when there doesn't seem to be any chance I'm allowed to debate the issues back.

[Misunderestimator]

47. Be civil? Do you know who you're saying that to?

huh? :) An OK guy?? I think you need to spend some time with me and get toughened up a bit.

This is no time for civility... seriously. After Bush it out, I'll try to be civil again.

:hi:

[Mara Steele]

48. But yes, it's always time for civility...

Silly barbs are fun, but will get us no where in real life...

I'm pretty tough, but have just learned to choose my battles carefully...

Some people are just too stupid/stubborn to be won, and will only be thrilled to
raise your blood pressure!

Now if he were personally attacking you, that would be a different
story...

But can understand your situation, entirely. I just don't like getting angry
when no good will come of it...

:hi:

[Misunderestimator]

53. I'll clarify...

I didn't get angry, and the blood pressure was exaggeration. I treat people like this guy with the utmost lack of respect and wouldn't waste a drop of civility on them. I can certainly pretend to be civil, but that's not really civil is it?

And silly barbs definitely get me places in life :D

[Mara Steele]

70. "utmost lack of respect"=

dehumanizing behavior?

Just a thought....

I'm by nature a healer, and am going into the fields of nutritional and psychological counseling.

I truly want to help people, and yes that includes republicans. Just like I don't judge people for having mental handicaps, I don't judge people for their skewed political judgement. Some people are just simple-minded, and I can't do anything about it. I would rather not contribute to interpersonal hostility, which leads to violence, which leads one day to war.

I just feel that I have a responsibility for making peace in this world, whenever I can.

Some people make it difficult, but these are my challenges in this life.

I try to know the issues and am able to win the liberal side of most rational debates. Beyond that, when it moves into the realm of insults, I just don't care for it. It does raise MY blood pressure and drains my energy, and it accomplishes nothing.

[Misunderestimator]

75. I'm really glad that you can find compassion for these types of people...

I'm just too old to manufacture compassion for people who support a murderer.

And you have completely misinterpreted how I react to these people. I am not a hostile person by any stretch, but I am damn sick and tired of sitting back and listening to idiots, and I'm not planning on stopping arguing with them.

I feel like you're lecturing me, Mara... and I'm not quite getting why. :shrug:

[Mara Steele]

78. No, not lecturing you @all...

I'm just offering my opinion on the situation. You give yours, I give mine. How conversations work. Am just trying to explain why I feel the way I do, because we seem to have different views on these kinds of exchanges.

I just don't feel like any kind of useless hostility is good for anyone. It's bad for MY health, anyway.

We should definitely argue with idiots and the misled. Some people really CAN be humbled, I have seen it happen a few times. It's very gratifying. I'm always up for an intellectual challenge, but when it gets down to the level of dumb insults, I'm disinterested. No challenge there, just building anger. From insults, the next step is often fists; have seen this happen, too.

But some people are just idiots or stuck in their views, and the best thing we can do is smile and nod at their idiocy, and recognize at some level that they are our human kin, too.

Because for me, (and maybe not for you, if so you are lucky) anger often has led to violence. And that frightens me. So I feel that I have to avoid anger, and try to keep the peace whenever possible, for the sake of protecting my own health and that of others whose views I may disagree with.

[Misunderestimator]

55. A question: Would you be civil to Bush if you met him?

I wouldn't... of that I'm sure. No more than I would be civil to Ken Lay, Dick Cheney or any number of other murderers.

(Responding to your "Always time for civility")

[Mara Steele]

74. I don't think a lack of civility will really do us much good...

I would probably feel furious in their presence, but uncivility would only get me arrested, or worse. I would prefer to confront these people, and all people, following the restraints of diplomacy. And one reason for that is because I know that in this manner, I would be sure to come across so much better and smarter, than them.

I really would rather avoid situations which make me angry, and accomplish nothing.

I have a hot temper that I've had to train myself to control. I was charged with assault once, actually. I know where anger leads, and it is no place good. I am afraid of that side of myself, to be honest.

[kmla]

44. Just ignore the pea-headed, booger eatin' moran....

He's part of what I refer to as the "25% crowd". 25% of the population is so enamored and brainwashed by everything and everyone the GOP presents, that they will support them NO MATTER WHAT.

* could be found naked in the White House with a troupe of teenage gypsy sex slaves, performing ritual animal sacrifices with the letter opener once used by Abraham Lincoln, and these 25% would somehow justify it in their puny brains that he was "right in these actions. He's a WAR preznit!"

Then they would somehow denigrate Bill Clinton, for according to these types all evil in the universe eminates from a sphere within 6" of Bill Clinton's naughty bits....

Always remember, never wrestle with a pig. You just get dirty. And the pigs enjoys it more and more the longer it goes on.

[underseasurveyor]

50. ha ha ha 'booger eatin'

hahahahahahahaha good one :thumbsup:

[CO Liberal]

45. I Get Crap Like That on a Daily Basis

When you're the only liberal Democrat working for a defense contractor, you find yourself surrounded by people who seem nice on the outside who are really ignorant assholes.

[nini]

52. Facts, facts and more facts..

That's the only way to debate those types. They pull the moral BS etc..

Throw facts at him that prove how immoral the actions of his party have been. Don't fall into the condescending moral aspects he's throwing out.

Ask him to give you concrete examples of the 'goodness and mercy' of his party. Then throw out all the crap they've done that have hurt the poor, put the entire planet at risk, etc... etc.. He can't back up goodness and mercy with ANYTHING his party have done.

[eyesroll]

56. I write for a very, very conservative industry...

...and I am extremely selective about the people with whom I discuss politics. There are maybe three or four people in the industry (outside of my actual workplace, where everybody thinks I'm this leftist whacko) who know more than just I'm a Democrat, and really not that many who know that I'm even that.

Sometimes, though, at conventions, people bring up politics, and I try my best to diplomatically shut them down without overstepping my bounds. These people vote their business -- and their chamber of commerce tells them to vote Bush. They don't vote their children or their parents or their freedom, though.

Does this idiot at work know that you're one of those people who want to ruin his marriage, Misunderestimator? ;-) (And, if he is, does he try to talk to you about it?)

[Misunderestimator]

59. LynneSin had the same question...

I'm not sure if he knows, but if he doesn't he's the most oblivious person on the planet. I do know what I will talk with him about now though... :) thanks!

(That is... if I ever see him again... we work on the same project but I'm IT and he's not and we don't have much work contact at all, except for the few times he's asked me the same rudimentary technical questions over and over).

[eyesroll]

64. Ah...I'm on message view so I missed your answer

(My computer here can't handle more than 50 posts in a thread at a time...)

Good luck.

[XanaDUer]

57. I love how they start this crap

and then get annoyed when you respond.

[Misunderestimator]

60. Ain't that the truth!! I guess he was expecting me to be civil...

or something :D

[XanaDUer]

63. I once stopped ignoring stupid shit

from an idiotic super-RW relative, and when I started:

1. Politely asking that I not be spammed with this stuff. which he ignored and then upped the amount of dumb, RW shit he sent me.

2. Began refuting it with facts, he freaked out and got argumentative with me.

You could be passive agressive...say nothing and then start flooding him with junk.

[Misunderestimator]

85. Excellent idea! Though not junk by any stretch...

I started with Will Pitt's letter to Bush. No response whatsoever three hours later...

[XanaDUer]

93. Logic befuddles 'em...

...

[dolo amber]

58. Nah, but I HAVE been ribbed for your pleasure...

:7

[Misunderestimator]

61. OMG... are you a condom?

[dolo amber]

65. No...for I am vulcanized...

:cry:

:P

[Misunderestimator]

68. Is that your ribbed tongue you're sticking out at me?

:D :P

[eyesroll]

69. Erm. Wow.

I suppose I should say the obligatory:

"Locking. No sex threads."

But I don't really wanna...
:P

[Magrittes Pipe]

62. No, you're ribbed for HER pleasure.

Something else entirely for mine. :evilgrin:

[eyesroll]

66. Wow, it took 58 posts for someone to mention that?

</shamefully didn't think of it first>

[dolo amber]

67. See, that's what I thought!

It's the rarest of occasions when *I* think of something that clever first...:D

[WoodrowFan]

71. the bogus Churchill quote

and they always toss out that bogus Churchhill quote "anyone who isnt a liberal at 20 has no heart, anyone still a liberal at 40 has no brain." I always point out that the quote is ACTUALLY from Georges Clemenceau who actually said "Anyone who is not a Communist when they are young has no heart, anyone still a communist when they are no longer young has no head." Besides, Churchill supported programs such as the government building housing for the working class that would send American RWingers into a tizzy.

[WilliamPitt]

72. Send him my letter to Bush

:)

See sig link.

[Misunderestimator]

73. Excellent letter!! Just sent it, even though I'm sure he won't read it

or comprehend it... maybe he'll skim it and get enlightened. Thanks! :)

[Misunderestimator]

87. Hey Will... just got a response from him to your letter:

"OK lady, the gloves are off! I tried to cease and desist, but obviously you are itching for a fight. That's ok, I'll oblige If it gets too brutal, i.e. you are too small to handle it, let me know, I'll let you crawl off into a corner. Otherwise get ready for the barrage is about to begin!

May the best man, or woman win!"


You inciteful person you... now look what you've done. :D

I wrote back this:

"Nah.... I don't have the impulse to fight someone who cannot be persuaded to see the obvious truth. I suppose you're against gay marriage too?"

On edit... here's his reply:

"That's funny, I was thinking the same thing about you. If you really want to have a civil discussion about politics I would love to. Although neither of us is about to change our stance on issues, I'm always open to hear how others think.

Take care"

TOO FUNNY... Yeah! He thinks I'm not civil... cool... maybe he'll leave me alone now. :)

[WilliamPitt]

96. Just ask him to disprove anything in the letter

[Misunderestimator]

105. Will do, and will let you know his response in the morning.

Or lack of response... as I suspect it will be.

[HughBeaumont]

76. Morality, values and other superficial characteristics

are really all that these people have to go on. NOT ONE person on the boards that I visit can name ONE positive accomplishment that the * administration has pulled off that actually benefits lower and middle-class Americans.

There are some that are still asserting that the economy is strengthening (even with the incredibly WEAK reports the past two months) and that OIF has a purpose. :tinfoilhat:

[Misunderestimator]

77. Welcome to DU!

And you're right, I haven't heard ONE word of how * has benefitted anyone... aside from lies.

[HughBeaumont]

79. Thanks and thankfully . . .

I work in an area where there isn't ONE Bush supporter among us. Half of the group comes from various other countries, and their opinion of the commando in cheese is about the same as that of bread mold under a refrigerator.

I tell these morans on the other boards - show me some core facts. WHAT has he done for the working class, the poor, schools, housing, minorities, the military, veterans, etc? WHAT has he done for people who aren't his financiers?

Closer to home . . . my own sister-in-law cannot get married and probably will never be able to. This is the sort of thing Rethugs are worried about - preserving some misinterpreted dogma that poses no threat to any person or their ideals.

[Misunderestimator]

82. You are lucky to not be surrounded by sheep

As for your sister-in-law, I'm hopeful still that that will be open to us all in my lifetime.

[Blue-Jay]

83. I've been kidded for being a liberal.

It never happens for very long. A few well-placed facts usually makes them run away.

[WoodrowFan]

84. RWers run from facts

like vampires from garlic crosses on a rainstorm of holy water.

[Guy Fawkes]

86. It was pretty bad last year at school...

and I'm sure it will get worse. Why? Because I'm more openly liberal this year, and I'm pretty sure word will get around I'm heading up the gsa...

[Misunderestimator]

88. What's the gsa?

Should I know? :shrug:

[Guy Fawkes]

94. A "GSA" is the term used for

clubs in schools that are meant specifically to address homophobia. Many high schools and colleges have them.

[Misunderestimator]

95. Thanks... and good for you for heading it up!

:thumbsup:

Didn't have such things when I grew up.

[miss_kitty]

89. i am getting it bad on another website on which i guest admin

from someone who got me the admin spot, and has recently gone to the dark side. i am in deep deep mourning over this.

[Misunderestimator]

90. Sorry to hear that... is it a liberal site?

and Welcome to DU! :hi:

[miss_kitty]

91. thank you

i would say so...the webmaster has a very open mind, he is cool. and my fresh tormentor was cool, but he said he's going with the devil he knows-ugh!

he reposted here the onion spoof story i posted over there...that's how i found out about this site

[LiberalManiacfromOC]

92. Only once....

If I find the old thread I'll edit it in and you can read all about it.

[HuckleB]

97. I think idiots are the only ones who do such things. No?

[miss_kitty]

98. i am rereading what that guy said to you...

and what is it about those people? they'll call you a moron, but then they want you in their club...i stopped duking it out with a troll, he said he was visiting the site to educate some 'indoctrinated morons,' and specifically to educate me. Ughhh. "I strongly feel with the proper time and coaching..." they are so insecure in their own beliefs i guess, they would feel validated if they could 'turn' someone?

i am being called 'fuhrer kitty' by my ex-best internet friend, because, he claims, i am just posting 'bush-bashing' stories...it's clear to me that it would be useless to explain to him that i don't make bush look bad, cheneybushco does that all alone. he needs no help from someone like me...

the icing on the cake would be if he were not white or straight-now there's a puzzler. 'log cabin' and 'black' republicans.

[Misunderestimator]

99. That's what I found most offensive and what made me react

in an "uncivil" manner... "I strongly feel with the proper time and coaching..." After my last email to him, in which I asked him how he felt about gay marriage, he never answered the question... so I sent him another with only that as the body... and he never responded... So freaking typical of these close-minded jerks. Never actually respond to the issues, just spout the party line. Unfortunately, he's white and straight and insecure... not much for me to work with. :shrug:

[miss_kitty]

106. well, and not worth working with

they have no ability to think critically, to question authority. and they are projectors as well.., if one more of these arseholes whose only reading material is the bible and rush limbaugh's 'book', calls me close-minded, i am going to kill him or her...i mean walk away. i am just going to put my hand up and walk away.

i'll tell you how he feels about gay marriage. he hates it. it makes him think about gay sex. and then, inexplicably, his pants start getting tight....

[NightTrain]

101. I recently forwarded to a '50s music Usenet group a G.D. posting...

...about Pat Boone's recent claim that God gave him "Ain't That A Shame?" and "Tutti Frutti" to record in 1955.

I added:

"No, asshole, it wasn’t God. You were 'given' those songs when YOU FUCKING STOLE THEM from Fats Domino and Little Richard!

"Pat Boone is the Antichrist of rock 'n' roll. He has been a carbunkle on the ass of my favorite music for 50 goddamned years. I hate that lying, white-bread, Bible-thumping motherfucker with every fiber of my being!"

Boy, did that ignite a shitstorm! As of this writing, my Usenet thread has close to 300 posts. One of the more recent ones stated:

"Obviously nobody around here agrees with Dean's crazy radical views about Boone."

To which I replied:

"I love being called 'crazy' and 'radical' by a man who thinks the entire planet revolves around '50s music.

"Of course, I've been called far worse things by people even more ignorant and self-absorbed than you--not to mention by the handful of trolls who comprise the douche-bag contingent of this NG."

To see the full thread, go to rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1950s and look for the thread titled, "Pat Boone claims that God gave him 'Ain't That A Shame?' and 'Tutti Frutti' to record."

[Misunderestimator]

104. Pat Boone? yikes

the very mention of his name makes me :puke:

[HEyHEY]

102. I think you should kill him

I mean, talk to him I think you should TALK to him

;-)

[Misunderestimator]

103. LOL ... if only