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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:06 PM
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Poll question: Is Your Karen Carpenter Favorite Listed Here?
If so... which one is it?
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:07 PM
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1. No
"Bless the Beasts and the Children."
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:09 PM
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2. Sorry... there are SO MANY Good Ones... Including...
... Sleigh Ride from the Christmas album.

"Just hear those sleigh bells ring-a-ling... ting-ting-ting-a ling too..."

-- Allen
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 11:57 AM
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45. The whole Carpenters Christmas Album...
"Frooooooosteeeeed window panes...candles gleaming inside..." (That one is my favorite... Christmas Waltz, it think)
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:14 PM
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4. I Just Didn't Have The Nerve To Include...
"Calling Occupants Of Interplanetary Craft"

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:26 PM
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6. ROFL!
I wouldn't pick that one.
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SaveABug Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:47 PM
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11. aaarrrggghh
I don't know how I missed your post. Sorry. Humble, tired brain banging self on desk.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 10:39 AM
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43. Hey I liked that one! Seriously. It was their "comeback"
really. 1978 or so. long after their heyday. Nice variety of music in that one song. Kind of like Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody".
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:09 PM
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3. I wont last a day without you
only because I used to sing it with this group I was part of in HS. Ye Gads
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:25 PM
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5. The Christmas Song
It's beautiful, w/or w/out voice.

But you gotta love that alto of hers . . .
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:27 PM
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7. "Ticket to Ride" nt
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:31 PM
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8. I sang Only Yesterday in Karaoke Saturday
Had trouble with the low notes
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:42 PM
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9. Yes! "Superstar" is there.
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SaveABug Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:46 PM
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10. Calling Occupants
of Interplanetary Craft

(they really did it, I didn't make it up!)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:03 PM
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12. She could invoke more emotion in a single bar than the present
day divas could in entire song. "Superstar" and "Rainy Days" just always put me in a mellow mood.

What a tragic loss at so young an age. How sad is it that she felt she needed to fit into such a narrow stereotype that she starved herself to death.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 08:13 PM
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24. Karen Could FIND THE NOTE and HOLD IT STEADY... Unlike...
... some of these "acrobatic" note-juggling warblers who bounce all over the scale trying to find a note (thinking they they are showing off their range... but only sounding like they can't sing. Which they can't.)

Today's singers are like Star-Search and American Idol winners. Marginal at best.

-- Allen

(Too harsh?)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:06 PM
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25. Nope, Karen was one of a kind. Thank God her gift is recorded.
And, she was a damn nice person, too, I hear.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:48 PM
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32. Yes - she could sing anything well.
And it's just her voice - not a lot of electro juggling to make it sound better, ala Madonna, Aguilera etc.

I still listen to Carpenters when hubby is away. He can't take it!

You know who is actually talented tho - Pink! I've got her Mizundastood album and it's really quite good.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 06:29 PM
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48. The downhill slide...
What a tragic loss at so young an age. How sad is it that she felt she needed to fit into such a narrow stereotype that she starved herself to death.

After marrying a leading Raygun fundraiser, there was nowhere to go but down...
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:13 PM
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13. "You forgot to include"
Merry Christmas Darling from their Christmas album.

Merry Christmas Darling
Frank Poole / Richard Carpenter

Greeting cards have all been sent
The Christmas rush is through
But I still have one more wish to make
A special one for you

Merry Christmas darling
We're apart that's true
But I can dream and in my dreams
I'm Christmas-ing with you

Holidays are joyful
There's always something new
But every day's a holiday
When I'm near to you
The lights on my tree
I wish you could see
I wish it every day
The logs on the fire
Fill me with desire
To see you and to say

That I wish you a Merry Christmas
Happy New Year, too
I've just one wish
On this Christmas Eve
I wish I were with you
I wish I were with you



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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:14 PM
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14. What a great song--a must on my holiday list.
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:17 PM
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15. Karen Carpenters version of Superstar
is one of the most beautiful of all time - imho
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 06:44 PM
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20. Awww, that's a purty song
:loveya:
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 08:08 PM
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22. Another Favorite Of Mine From The Christmas Album
... I may just pull out that album right now and listen to it (just because).

-- Allen

P.S. I have it on both VINYL and CD.

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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:07 PM
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46. Okay , if you can do it, so can I:
Christmas Waltz:
Frosted window panes
candles gleaming inside,
painted candy canes on the tree,
Santa's on his way,
he's filled his sleigh with things
things for you and for me,

It's that time of year
when the world falls in love
every song you hear seems to say,
Merry Christmas, may your New Year Dreams come true,
And this song of mine, in three quarter time,
Wishes you and yours the same thing, too.

My dad was a huge Karen Carpenter fan, and whenever I do the Christmas lights (dad's big Christmas time job), I listen to this album, and once she starts to sing (this is the first song with vocals on the album) I just break down and cry. It has become a Christmas tradition.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:35 PM
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16. ...No one ever cared if I should live or die
Time and time again the chance for love has passed me by
And all I know of love is how to live without it...


(What would you expect from the resident Barry Manilow freak? But back when I played guitar, I had the solo down perfecto. I tell ya, lions would purr, wolves would curl at my feet, and young girls would cry when my magic fingers wove their hypnotic spell. Just please don't play the BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA close to you..... BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA close to you..... song... please... please...)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:08 PM
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26. She really nails that part--wistful and longing.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 08:33 PM
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51. That's my fav too.
I never get tired of the BWAAAAA part!
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:55 PM
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17. "Close to You"
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 06:33 PM
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18. It's a dirty old shame
All You Get From Love Is An Old Love Song
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 06:39 PM
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19. I didn't vote...I just couldn't decide...so much great music.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 06:53 PM
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21. My 8th grade graduation song was We've only just begun
After we graduated all of us kids went outside and broke our temper paints on the side of the bldg. It was a tradition at our grade school in Chicago and we had one side of the school with a bit of splash artwork on it.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 08:11 PM
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23. Sing. Sing A Song. Sing Out Loud. Sing Out Strong.
LA la-la LA-la
La-LA LA-la LA-la
La LA la LA-la-la-la!

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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:11 PM
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27. Top of The World!
I love the Shonen Knife cover version.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:12 PM
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28. You forget the ultimate campy gay song..top of the world
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:28 PM
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29. Everything Is Great About That Song EXCEPT..
... Richard Carpenter's TIRED and UNIMAGINATIVE and HACKNEYED and SELF-CLONED "giddy organ arrangements".

I can spot a Richard Carpenter arrangement a mile away.

I think he held her back. I think her eating disorder was in part a rebellion against her controlling brother. It was something that SHE was in control of. Even though it was self-destructive, she was indeed in control of it.

-- Allen
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RecoveringAsshole Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:45 AM
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36. THAT was a GAY song???
Oh fuck oh dear!!!!
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 06:36 PM
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49. Which raises a key question...
...do any straight males like their music?

Personally, I detested their whole squeaky-clean image (a "wholesome" alternative to all that filthy rock music for Nixon's silent majority) and found most of their songs bland, bland, bland.

However, I'd make an exception for Superstar. I couldn't believe that was coming from the same band that recorded Close To You with the Smarmiest Lyrics Of All Time.

And I certainly had no beef with Karen as a representative of the female gender...especially after my first semi-relationship with a girl who looked almost exactly like a 13-year-old version of her (in her early, pre-perm days)...

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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:30 PM
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30. Gloria Estefan's Voice Reminds Me A Lot Of Karen Carpenter's
Does anyone else see (hear) the similarities?

-- Allen
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 06:38 PM
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50. No [NT]
;-)
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:45 PM
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31. Close to You - My mom broke my record.
God am I a fag or what.

I used to play this song over and over again on my little portable record player - the single, not the album (couldn't afford it.)

My mom finally took my record away and it got broken. Sigh.

BTW, yes, I am a fag. That wasn't an insult. Honest.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:49 PM
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33. Oh, It's Been YEARS Since I've Thought Of "Close-N-Plays"
Karen is the Judy of the mid-late 70's.

Someone bring me up to speed on pop music... who is the tell-tale coming out diva for young queers in the aughts?

-- Allen
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:12 AM
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34. agh
Compare Karen Carpenter with Kelly the American Idol. Agh! How have music teachers and vocal coaches allowed the slide in quality??

Most vocalists that I hear today in pop music do everything they can to avoid clear, pure notes.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 05:49 AM
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39. Vocal Acrobatics. Vocal Gymnasts. They Warble All Over The Place...
... searching for a single note to light on. They are like houseflies: they never stay one place for more than 2 seconds... never hold a pure note... EVER.

Who started it? Whitney? Mariah? Lauryn Hill?

I wish SOMEONE would end it! It's NOT singing!

-- Allen (Who also thinks that "screamer-crooners" aren't really singing either. Michael Bolton, Rod Stewart... are you listening?)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 01:18 AM
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37. I noticed that it was Tori Amos in the 90s, but I don't know about the aug
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:13 AM
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35. Touch Me When We're Dancing

It was their last major chart single, in 1981.
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 01:56 AM
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38. Got that rainy day feeling again.
Karen is resting in the same mausoleum as my dad. Pass her crypt every time I visit. Drop a few petals in passing. So sad........
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BritishHuman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 10:07 AM
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40. calling occupants...
of interplanetary craft.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 10:10 AM
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41. Such a clear, rich tone to her voice
Truly right up there among the best, but of course, just shy of the very best: Patsy Cline.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 10:12 AM
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42. My parents were big Carpenters fans.
I used to sit by the stereo while the records played, just worshipping that voice! She was amazing. I didn't know she was a gay icon. Beats the hell out of the JudyLizaBarbraBette four-headed monster.
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Turbulence Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 11:16 AM
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44. great alto
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:03 PM
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47. Bless the beasts and the children
Bless the beasts and the children
For in this world they have no voice
They have no choice

Bless the beasts and the children
For the world can never be
The world they see

Light their way
When the darkness surrounds them
Give them love
Let it shine all around them

Bless the beasts and the children
Give them shelter from a storm
Keep them safe
Keep them warm

Light their way
When the darkness surrounds them
Give them love
Let it shine all around them

Bless the beasts and the children
Give them shelter from a storm
Keep them safe
Keep them warm

The children
The children


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