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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:20 AM
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The first story of your fucked - up relationship with the opposite sex?
IN grade 5, I liked this girl. I really liked her. And I tried mey best to get that across, she gave me her picture once, and I cherished it. Then when I officially asked her out, she shot me down like a stuka over London.

I think that is the root of my problems with approaching women.

You?

ANd actually homosexuals would have even better tales of stuff in this sort...so do tell.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:34 AM
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1. Typical girl-likes-gay guy- story...
Back in HS (like 2 years ago :D ), I was really really in love with my male best friend since 5th grade. And of course, following the oldest story in the book, he turns out he was gay. We went out to the movies one night, and before he droped me off, I asked him "would it freak you out if I said I wanted to kiss you?" His eyes bugged out and stammered "uh YES!"
Next day, he came out to me, beginning the process of coming out of the closet.
We're best friends still.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:36 AM
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2. That sounds more happy than fucke dup
Dang yo, what are your crappy stories like? ;-)
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:38 AM
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3. want a crappy story? Here's one:
Girl goes to college three thousand miles away from home to Boston. Girl LOVES it there. Girl meets FANTASTIC man. Girl falls in love. Man loves girl. School year ends. Girl needs to go home because family is falling apart and needs her help. Man tells her everything will be ok. Man breaks up with girl. Girl's heart broken. Girl still hurts.
W00000!!!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:45 AM
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4. that sucks
at least you have your gay friend.

Women who fall in love with gay men are the best: they're attracted to qualities that fucking COUNT!
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:47 AM
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5. hell yeah!!!
We can get wicked drunk and sleep/pass out together, and not freak out and wonder if I'm preggers :evilgrin:
Plus, he and I live at The Gap...I know, I know...liberals at the Gap? Shocking! :P
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:52 AM
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6. exactly
in my youth, like most gay men, I hung out with girls a lot. A number of them had "feelings" for me that I couldn't reciprocate. Every one of those girls was a total sweetheart. They were looking for a man who treated them as equals, who truly enjoyed their company, and yes, who liked to shop. :)

I recommend to any young man trying to get laid to turn gay - good women just LOVE that in a man.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:54 AM
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7. that's shitty
poor lass
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:22 AM
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18. How about . . . .
Girl from Jersey moves to California meets guy. Guy falls head over heels for girl. Girl has already made plans to move to Boston and talks boy into coming along. Boy quits job, gives up apartment, etc. and does so. Girl changes mind during trip, dumps guy.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 04:02 AM
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8. wasn't my FIRST fucked up relationship...
Edited on Sun Aug-01-04 04:06 AM by Dookus
but it was the worst.

At 39, I met and fell in love with a 23 year old. He was my first truly serious relationship - I'd had boyfriends before, but nothing like this. I invited him to move in with me.

Six months later, he left me for a waiter who flirted with him when we went out to dinner one evening. That part I even understand - but this guy who I truly and deeply felt would never hurt me became a liar, a jerk, a total asshole. It was the most horrible experience of my life. I really had something of a breakdown over it.

Needless to say, his new relationship failed spectacularly. We're friends today, and he's aware of what an asshole he was. But today I have a boyfriend who was a guy I worked with who was my anchor through my ordeal. The funny part is, I thought he was straight. I flirted with him shamelessly just because I knew he'd never go for it. Then out of the blue at work one day he told me he was bisexual and in love with me. We've been together over two years now.

on edit: I didn't even mention the best part. My boyfriend, who posts here occasionally as Squeegee, was so cute, smart and nice that I tried to set him up with my very best female friend. She adored him. I pushed it and pushed it and he ended up hurting her - not intentionally in any way, but because he was in love with me. And I had no fucking clue.

Now, of course, the three of us are fantastic friends. I love him, I love her, she loves him, she loves me, he loves her and he loves me. We laugh about it a lot now.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:33 AM
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19. I had a relationship like that once...
I was 23 and recently out of a seriously bad relationship with a woman, so I decided to try the other side of the fence again... Was away for the summer at a music festival and met another singer, a guy who was really sweet but was in a relationship with a woman back at his home in CA. They had been having problems in their relationship, so they decided to start dating other people. We started dating (though nothing sexual), and a couple of weeks later she came out to visit him for a week. We spent a lot of time together, the three of us, and at the end of the week she told me that she was in love with me. She ended up breaking up with him, moved out to NYC to live with me, and a month later he moved out too and got an apartment in the same building as us. For three years the three of us were inseparable, until circumstances ended it. Those two are still best friends. Oh, and he turned out to be gay too.
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 04:21 AM
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9. Playing it straight in H.S.
with an Orthodox guy of Jewish faith. He told his folks he was going w/"fake" name, one that was infinitely more acceptable because of my shiksa(sp.) status. Dating was difficult to say the least w/the rest of my peer group since he could not go out on any Friday nights and spent Sat. in Sabbath school. However, I did learn a lot and was invited to attend a Yom Kippur service behind the screen at his synogue.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 04:23 AM
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10. that doesn't sound so fucked up...
sounds sorta sweet to me, actually. Very Yentl.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 04:58 AM
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11. Hurts so bad, like someone ripping open chest
Edited on Sun Aug-01-04 04:58 AM by SemiCharmedQuark
I was in love. Matt and I were really great friends and then we started a romantic relationship. It was fantastic, I was completely and utterly in love with him. Anyway, there was this girl, Kirsty, who was a complete slut. She had worked her way around the circle of acquaintances. She wanted to visit Matt. So she did and she ended up spending the night but nothing happened. Anyway, then Matt started acting funny. He stopped talking to me. So word travels around the grapevine and lo and behold I hear she's with him, he just hasn't told me yet. So I confront him and he says quote (I'll never forget this in a million years) "She likes me and wants me and I kinda like her). I felt sick. That sent me into a deep depression, of which I've still got the scars (literally carved into my arm). Fucker.

On Edit: They lasted three dates, although that was enough time for them to have sex and tell us all about it.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 05:14 AM
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12. exactly, quark
my experience was almost the same. It was almost unbearably painful. It just amazes me to this day that people who once loved someone can be so thoroughly cruel.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:03 AM
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13. I Think I Can Top You All
I was captured young (17) by a moron (26). I won't bother to mention every fucking thing he did to me in the nine years we were together. I did manage to escape without tying myself legally to that asswipe, and without brats. Thank god I was never *that* stupid, and not wanting brats was about the only thing we always agreed on.

As I said I won't go through everything, especially since my arm is so fucked up I can't type for more than 15 minutes, but an episode the encapsulates the whole thing is when I once in the hospital with a bad kidney infection, he was out on date, who he took back to our place and had dress up in my clothes. Neato, huh?
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:08 AM
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14. Ugh!
You win.

Welcome back, REP. Haven't seen you in awhile.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:11 AM
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15. I've Been Around
But mostly in GD. :hi:
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:35 AM
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16. What one wasn't?
Every relationship I've ever had consists of something like this:

Man: "Wow, I can't believe I have a women like you interested in me. You're smart, funny, pretty, and a sweet person."

Me: "Well, I like you for who you are."

Man: "Great, can I treat you like shit now?"
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worksux Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 12:33 PM
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25. LOL God that is so true! n/t
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:06 AM
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17. HeyHey
i can't answer, i do my best to avoid telling war-stories.
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:45 AM
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20. Mine is WAY too long to post here....
Edited on Sun Aug-01-04 10:01 AM by No2W2004
but, the thumbnail is

guy meets nice girl with kind heart & a few "quirks"
guy moves to girl's hometown to live
guy & girl get married & have 2 kids
girl's father is killed in a car wreck
girl's mental state collapses, but she refuses to get help
girl decides TV and computer games are more important than family
guy tries for 3 years to find a way to keep family together.
guy files for divorce, girl's family sucks every last penny from him with legal manuvers in court proceedings.
guy is heartbroken.

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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:58 AM
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21. He lied about being divorced
A few years ago I met this guy. He was (and still is I guess) a boatbuilder, fairly successful, a little unconventional but I like that. Things went swimmingly for a few months then he goes to see a doctor because of some pain in his shoulder and they tell him he has some sort of incurable, debilitating illness. Needless to say we were very upset but I figured that you don't dump someone because of something like that. A couple of months after that he went back east to work on a project out there. I got a few emails, some phone calls, but things just didn't add up. I offered to take a week off to go visit him but he would never answer me on that. Then I get an email saying he has had a stroke. They guy is 32 tears old at this point. It turns out that his illness is not what they thought it was originally but some sort of blood-clotting problem. hence the stroke. But he was okay; I talked to him on the phone and he sounded normal. He had some difficulty walking but was undergoing physical therapy. Then the bombshell. I call his cell phone and HIS WIFE answers. Since I thought they were divorced it came a shock to me that they were not. Apparently he also has a son which I didn't know about. basically it was just lies on lies on lies. I have no idea what is true anymore. After that I just couldn't take it anymore and I decided to call it quits. I have not been with anyone since (it has been about 4 years) because I don't feel I can ever trust anyone again. I recently founs out he is living in Florida so I guess he is doing okay.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 10:03 AM
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22. All my attempts at relationships have been fucked up
Edited on Sun Aug-01-04 10:05 AM by supernova
I have experienced some pretty good moments, but not a healthy on-going realationship.

It's to the point, honestly, what I would appreciate at this point in my life is a good old-fashioned courtship. Mostly because I've never experienced it. And I need to know that there is something there beyond "How do you like your eggs?"

edit: the last person I dated thought that since we went out a couple of times, that meant I wanted to spend all my free time with him and he could move in on the weekends. *Sigh*
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 10:08 AM
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23. most of my experiences with the opposite sex
(beyond "friendship") have been relatively fucked-up (not ALL, but most)... after a while I pretty much realized I'm barking up the wrong tree.

I had to become involved with a few women just to confirm, otherwise I'd always be wondering.
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Mara Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 12:37 PM
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26. ha ha.... yeah same here...

Things are always kind of awkward and fucked-up when we are "barking up the wrong tree"... :D
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:02 PM
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30. no kidding--
I'm like , f*ck it, I'm gay

I just had to confirm it a few times, just to make sure :crazy:
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Mara Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:13 PM
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32. Didn't really know I was queer for a time... or was in some kind of denial

...But I never wanted to kiss the guys & HATED sex...

At the same time, I thought I was in love with them because of how gentle and sensitive they were... I always went for the androgynous, more "feminine" men.

Come to think of it now... I bet a couple of them were gay, too. Not sure, just my guess...
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:35 PM
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34. My boyfriend in HS was definitely gay.
Didn't know it at the time, but it sure made it easier when neither one of us wanted to have sex.

Before we got together, I had gone out with other boys and was always annoyed by the groping, clumsy advances... Gotta hate that hand behind your neck when that's the farthest thing from your mind... those dates were always cut short. Um... was that TMI?

:bounce:
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Mara Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:45 PM
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36. Ha... no not TMI

I can understand...

Congrats on the hook up BTW... :toast:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:49 PM
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39. Thanks... best hook up ever.
after 42 long years. ;)
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Mara Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:59 PM
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41. That's SO wonderful...

I really am happy for you and NSMA... :hug: :hug:
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The Spirit of JFK Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 11:29 AM
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24. I dated a giant crazy gun carrying French woman
Edited on Sun Aug-01-04 12:02 PM by The Spirit of JFK
who, among other things, got me really really drunk one night and tried to get me to marry her...by flying us to Vegas.

Other tidbits..

• pointing her gun (that she named "Jerry Lewis") at me one night

• having me followed

• buying me a BMW convertible (we had only been dating for a short time)


Good times....good times.


btw..when I say "giant"...i just mean she was freakishly tall...almost 6'2" and liked to wear her hair up and wear high heels. It's not like I was dating Andre The Giant's sister or anything.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 12:57 PM
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29. Wooooo.
She bought you a Beemer? The gun thing would've been too much for me.
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The Spirit of JFK Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:09 PM
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31. I made her take it back.
Too many strings attached.

I had waaay too many morals when I was 20.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:56 PM
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40. Why is the Kinks' "Lola" playing in my head?
Well I’m not the world’s most physical guy
But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola
Well I’m not dumb but I can’t understand
Why she walked like a woman and talked like a man
Oh my lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 12:48 PM
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27. I ditched someone in a foreign city because she was browbeating me
Edited on Sun Aug-01-04 12:49 PM by JVS
and I didn't feel like having my 9 day vacation ruined by having someone constantly yell at me because I'm having a hard time figuring out where the closest bus stop is in cities that I've never seen.
When I got back to my apartment I found 2 letters of apology including an offer to come to her place where she would cook me dinner.
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Mara Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 12:49 PM
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28. Did it work out?

Always a sucker for a happy ending. :hi:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:48 PM
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38. Yep, I didn't go to dinner and saw her only twice socially after that
nobody busts JVS' chops!

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:18 PM
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33. John asked me to go with him in the fifth grade
I said yes. Then he sent me a note and it read:

"I am going to scramble the letters of this word, so you have to figure it out ok? Unscramble the letters. Will you meet me in Freak Alley so I can S-I-K-S you."

I was scared. I didn't want to be SIKSed. But then my friend Sandra hit me on the back of my head and said "DUMMY! KISS! IT SAYS KISS!" at which point the other kids on my table made loud oooooo noises.

I waited in Freak Alley until 6 pm. Ran home. Got a whipping because my mom didn't know where I was and was losing her mind thinking I had been kidnapped.

I was mad at him. The next day I wrote him a note saying I break up. He wrote me back and said he didn't care. I wrote back and said I would kick his butt. He wrote back and said he DARED me to.

At PE that day, I walked right over and kicked him in the ass. He turned around, shocked. I ran.

That night, I cried myself to sleep. I really loved him.

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:38 PM
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35. Truly a psychotic relationship
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:46 PM
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37. I was the boyfriend my lesbian girlfriend took home to show her parents.
That relationship ended in Berkeley when she used me to "rescue" her wayward girlfriend in San Francisco, and I ended up jumping out of her car while it was moving and riding the Greyhound bus home alone. She sent my stuff back to me by UPS without a note.

After that, back in college and on the rebound, I fell in love with a woman who didn't tell me she was separated but not divorced like she implied, and eventually she felt so bad living that lie that she simply started avoiding me to the point where she would leave the class we shared early. She told me the truth in front of the library one day, after a long study session, and when she left I sat down on a bench utterly devestated, until I got too cold, and too hungry, and the campus police started looking at me funny. Of course when she graduated, she reconciled with her husband, and I never saw her again.

All my relationships with women were disasters like this until I met my wife. These disasters were mostly my own fault, because I am an idiot.

I have a friend who was an even bigger idiot. He lived in Paris and had a girlfriend in New York he was promising to marry once his work situation was stable. He worked for a multi-national company and traveled a lot. His girlfriend in New York decided she was going to marry him despite that and she got money from her family to fly to Paris and tell him in person. She went to the address where he was living, and she was met by the woman who's apartment it was. The girlfriend in Paris kicked him out as soon as he came home.

I haven't heard from this guy forever. He quit his job after this happened and I lost track of him. I once called his dad who told me using some rather rude language that he didn't know and he didn't care where his son was.

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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:59 PM
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42. All of them, other than some friends of more recent years
Hardly seems fair, really -- as a kid, I was totally in love with the whole idea of girls but I never got me one. :-(

And, when I finally did (after a couple of briefer and rather intense introductions to what I'd been missing, both in the giving and the receiving sense), it was all a huge mistake for which I'm now very much paying. Testimonials here, and about three thousand or so country and blues songs, tell me that mine is hardly a unique case.

For now, at least, I'm no good for anyone in that sense...

So I guess it's time to be good for myself. And surely Salma will eventually return my calls.


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