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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:09 AM
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What Is Your Favorite Myth?
Mine is Daedalus and Icarus, because it's easy to remember and the meaning is clear.

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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 10:44 PM
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1. I had this book when I was little w/ native american myths
My favorite one was "How Ishdaka Found Summer."

But that's just me, Singing Breezy
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 10:45 PM
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2. What culture is that from
Edited on Sun Jul-06-03 10:46 PM by BurtWorm
Which tribe?
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 10:46 PM
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4. you know, I can't quite remember
I gonna look it up now.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:51 AM
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40. American Indian also...Selu the corn goddess
Explains how American Indians got corn. The Cherokee (Iroquian) creation story is also cool.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:53 AM
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41. Iroquois myth is amazingly sophisticated
I love Iroquois culture.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 10:46 PM
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3. Sisyphus!
For the same reasons as you. And besides, I feel that way every morning!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 10:52 PM
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7. I can relate to that one
too.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 10:49 PM
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5. Echo and Narcissus
great topic!
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 10:52 PM
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6. Eros and Psyche
The myth encompasses so many of the problems inherent in not trusting and the need of knowing someone else's secrets as paving the way to doom.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 11:16 PM
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11. Were the characters named after the mental phenomena
or were the mental phenomena named after the characters?
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 10:32 AM
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61. The mental phenomena were named after the gods
though archetypally speaking the development of the myth of the gods linked to psychological aspects is more subtle in development than that explanation allows for.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 10:52 PM
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8. The love story of Damon and Pythias...
as a gay man, could I have any other choice?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 11:15 PM
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10. Can you tell it in a paragraph?
I don't think they taught that one in my high school.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 11:51 PM
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19. They were "best friends"...
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 11:56 PM
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21. Thanks
That's a lovely story.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 12:27 AM
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23. Thank you....relationships based on love...
Edited on Mon Jul-07-03 12:27 AM by Rowdyboy
are tough to argue with...
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 10:54 PM
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9. This one-
Myth Withconthin. :-)



Miss Wisconsin
Jayme Dawicki
New Berlin, Wisconsin
Age: 22
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EV1Ltimm Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 11:18 PM
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12. lol
...but as a 23 year old, i seriously doubt her age. Is it a mythprint?
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 11:20 PM
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13. Persephone
Love the explanation of the change of seasons.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 11:21 PM
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14. Coffee stunts your growth
I started drinking coffee when I was in 5th grade and I was 5'4".
I am now 6'6":hangover:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 11:22 PM
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15. Are you sure that's not your LEAST favorite?
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 11:26 PM
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16.  Orpheus and Eurydice
Edited on Sun Jul-06-03 11:28 PM by Tinoire


But damn- I love all the ones mentioned!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 11:31 PM
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17. Nice painting!
You hads a nice etching before too, but I love this painting. That's one of my top three myths. Someone else mentioned Persephone, and that's the other one of my big three.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 12:37 AM
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26. Thanks! They're all beautiful!
Edited on Mon Jul-07-03 01:16 AM by Tinoire
Because of this thread and the nostalgia it brought, I had to pick Ovid's Metamprphoses as my favorite book in another thread. See what you did?!



Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Artist: Gerhard Marcks
Nationality: German
Artist Dates: 1889-1981


Title: Orpheus and Eurydice, No. 4 from the series "Orpheus Series"
Date: 1948
Object Type: print
Medium: woodcut
Subjects: Orpheus, reclining figures, male, female, Eurydice


Holding Institution: The University of Michigan Museum of Art

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The painting 'Orpheus leading Eurydice from the Underworld',
Museum of Fine Arts, Houston, Texas, is by Jean-Baptiste-Camille Corot.

I love the myth of Icarus.

On edit: Poem doesn't display properly - click on the link and see.

Did Icarus,
falling,
watching white feathers flutter upward,
curse the wax as a fair-weather friend?
It seemed such a strong solid type,
but it melted away
when things got hot.

Did he rail at the sun,
which beckoned enticingly,
and then changed from a beacon to a furnace?

Did he blame Daedalus, his father?
Who warned him not to fly too high
in the same distracted tones with which
he admonished his son
to put on a sweater in the cold,
to eat his lima beans,
to not run with scissors.
How could he have known that this time the old man really meant it?

Or did he regret that the illustrious inventor,
when creating his flying apparatus,
did not take the obvious next step:
the emergency parachute?

He must have thought
all of this
and more.

It was
a long
long
fall.

But as he neared the ocean,
came close enough to wave to the startled fishermen in their boats,
he laughed,
and admitted
that even had he known
of the many failings of fathers and feathers,
he would have done it anyway.


Wendy A. Shaffer is a graduate student in Chemistry at the University of California, Berkeley. "Icarus" is her first published poem.
http://www.strangehorizons.com/2000/20001204/icarus.shtml


Peace
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 12:39 AM
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27. I saw that you made that choice
I was reading Ovid's version of the Icarus myth a bit earlier. Not in Latin though. It's still gorgeous language. And so is the version you shared. Thanks!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:14 AM
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30. What a gorgeous language to have forgotten
wish I remembered all but the most elementary phrases! Too bad they rarely teach it anymore- I think that's a horrible mistake.

Peace :)
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:16 AM
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31. I tried to teach myself Latin last year.
Now I'm reading about Cicero. It's a beautiful language, but the word order, tenses, cases, declensions, etc....

I'll get back to it.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:17 AM
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32. You are a brave, brave soul! Good luck! :) (Shiver!) n/t
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:22 AM
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33. Yeah, but what happens to Orpheus?
Edited on Mon Jul-07-03 01:40 AM by psychopomp
That sweet kid got ripped to pieces and dumped in a river!

My personal favorite is the story of Prometheus, a story which runs parallel to the Christian story of the son of God as saviour. Prometheus is the ultimate free-thinker and rebel against tyranny in Greek mythos. He is punished, horribly, but freed in the end by Heracles.

one version of the story

edit: fixed link
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:26 AM
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34. That link doesn't work
But I know what you mean about Prometheus. That is a great story. It inspired great art as well.

Here he is, caught red-handed:

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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:43 AM
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39. Thanks, I fixed the Prometheus story link
Journalists, if you are reading this, check out the story and be INSPIRED...bring the light to the people!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:40 AM
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38. Here's the fixed link and Head of Orpheus
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/6969/myth.htm

by Odilon Redon

Yes but even as his dead body floated down the river, he kept singing of his love for Euridyce. Sigh... How lovely.... What is wrong with us today? Could modern man love that deeply? I won't hold my breath ;-)
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WhataBildeberger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 11:36 PM
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18. "God"
<run away, run away>



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MoonGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 11:56 PM
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20. I've always been partial to the Biblical creation myth...

(actually, I'm interested in almost all creation myths)

... really fascinating story rich with all sorts of symbolism and metaphors. So much about it that is completely overlooked because you have one group of people insisting that it is literal fact, and another group insisting that it is pure BS.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-03 11:58 PM
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22. I'm fascinated with American creation myths
Especially from the Southwest and Meso-America. They're so strange!
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MoonGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 12:46 AM
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28. Yeah... been a long time since I've studied this...

... so I don't remember them all and get them confused with each other... but I do remember there being some fascinating native American ones.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:57 AM
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43. Interestingly...
..most people believe that the definition of myth implies it is unrtue. That's not necessarily the case. The first definition, according to dictionary.com " A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the psychology, customs, or ideals of society." Around the third definition, "fiction or half-truth" is intoduced.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 12:29 AM
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24. Job
I also love the play by MacLeish, J.B. In fact, it's probably my favorite play.

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toolfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 12:30 AM
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25. Narcissus & Echo
After becoming too well acquainted with it while translating for AP Latin, I grew to love it....
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Castilleja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:04 AM
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29. I like the one about Persephone
as well.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:27 AM
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35. Flight of Icarus
As the sun breaks above the ground
An old man stands on the hill
As the ground warms to the first rays of light
A birdsong shatters the still

His eyes are ablaze
See the madman in his gaze

Fly on your way like an eagle
Fly as high as the sun
On your wings like an eagle
Fly and touch the sun

Now the crowd breaks and a young boy appears
Look the old man in his eyes
As he spreads his wings and shouts at the crowd
In the name of God my father I fly

His eyes seem so glazed
As he flies on the wings of a dream
Now he knows his father betrayed
Now his wings burn to ashes to ashes his grave

Fly on your way like an eagle
Fly as high as the sun
On your wings like an eagle
Fly and touch the sun
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:35 AM
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37. And they say heavy metal has no redeeming social value!
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OurMorale Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:29 AM
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36. Cygnus and Phaethon
(the e in Phaethon should have an umlaut over it.)

They were lovers. Phaethon stole the chariot of the sun and lost control of it. Zeus had to shoot him out of the sky with a thunderbolt. Cygnus wandered the River Eridanus looking for him, and became distraught when he couldn't find him. The gods took pity on him and turned him into a swan.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 01:54 AM
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42. Epic of Gilgamesh and other stories that prove that
flood mythology is universal, and is not of Biblical origin. It is even found in American Indian mythology.
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MoonGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 02:56 AM
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45. Gilgamesh? Wasn't that a character from the Smurfs?



:P
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 03:17 AM
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46. Yup...
I had forgotten that! I'll have to use that image for a joke slide for my 101 class. thanks for the reminder, MG!



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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 10:15 AM
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56. Gilgamesh is one hot,, homoerotic classic....
I'm amazed that the Christuian Coalition hasn't fought to have it banned from colleges and universities.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 10:28 AM
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59. But that would mean they would have to actually READ it...
...before they would know they had to ban it.

And God knows those idiots haven't even read the Bible that they're thumping, let alone any other books.
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MoonGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 10:41 AM
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62. hehe... actually, it's not Gilgamesh...

... it's Gargamel.
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AliceWonderland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 02:36 AM
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44. Ariadne and Dionysius
She leads Theseus through the Minotaur's maze with a golden thread; he dumps her when they get to the island of Naxos and sails away. Thanks, bud! The god Dionysius is so taken with the sleeping Ariadne that he falls in love with her and puts the Corona Borealis in the sky, the northern crown of his queen.


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Throckmorton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 07:09 AM
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47. Self Abuse leads to insanity.
"Leave it alone, it will grow" actual quote from my grandmother, who had 7 sons, fired at my cousin one day about 30 years ago. You can guess what it refers to.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 08:35 AM
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48. That voters elect presidents in the US
That used to be pretty cool, but now, apparently, it's just myth.

In terms of real mythology, I'm big on near-east Asian stuff, like Gilgamesh, et. al.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 08:38 AM
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49. Adam and Eve
.
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 08:44 AM
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50. Compassionate conservatism
n/t
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 08:49 AM
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52. i was going to say supply side economics but
your works even better.
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mclam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 08:46 AM
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51. Procrustes
He was a giant who kept a cave in the middle of a mountain pass somewhere with one bed of a certain length. If travelers stopped by to stay with him they had to sleep in the bed but they had to fit it exactly. If they were too tall he would chop off their feet with an axe. If they were too short he would stretch them on a rack until they were tall enough. Hence, my favorite obscure hundred-dollar word which I almost never get to use "procrustean" meaning forcing something to adhere to an arbitrary standard.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:40 AM
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53. Thank you for the word of the day
I never knew what that word meant or where it came from
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:42 AM
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54. Mith America
hee
;-)
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:43 AM
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55. Pot makes you "grow tits"
n/t
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 10:16 AM
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57. I should be wearing d-cups...
if that was true!
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 10:17 AM
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58. Atalanta and Meleager
Just a simple, easy to remember story. :)
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 10:31 AM
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60. Inanna's journey to the underworld
And coming back from the dead. Such a metaphor for major life changes.

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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 02:13 PM
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63. That voting in America...

...makes a difference in the outcome of an election. I half believed it until December 12, 2000, but no more, baby!
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