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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:30 PM
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Fallout From the Rangers Game A Few Day Ago
If anyone does not know what I am talking about I am talking about the game in which a guy jumped the seat to get a baseball. There was contraversy in that the guy bumped into a 4yr. old while trying to get the ball.

Am I the only person or one of a very small minority of people who believe the guy who got the ball at the game was in the right. In my opinion the 4yr. old was not going for the ball. The kid did not even seem to care what was going on until the guy tried to get up. In addition, I think the guy who got the ball may have fallen while trying to reach for the ball. I don't think he just jumped over the seat to get the ball. Also, there was a seat between the kid and the ball. The guy did not forcefully take the ball from the kid after the kid had picked it up or go after the ball while the kid was trying to get it. Once again the kid was not going for the ball and did not seem to care about the ball. So, I think the contraversy is just much ado about nothing. I think the guy should have kept the ball.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:31 PM
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1. you monster!!
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:33 PM
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2. Seen it
I was at a Milwaukee Admirals game (Minor League Hockey) where some youngish guy (18-25) went down 10 rows and grabbed a puck away from a 5 or so year old kid. The crowd booed him until he gave the kid the puck. (he gave the kid the puck)

I guess my question is.. this is still news?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:33 PM
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3. All I have to say about that is thank god this guy wasn't black or else
a mob of people would have probably beat the crap out of him.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:33 PM
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4. Stealing candy from babies is cool, too!
Robbing little old ladies, stealing from donation boxes.......
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:33 PM
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5. Small minority
the rest of the section, and the guy's female companion were all unhappy with him ... the section was chanting for him to give up the ball, and the female companion left separately from him.

From what I saw, the kid didn't really know what was going on, but he was only 4. The guy had pushed the mother out of the way, and was on the floor at her feet and she was swatting him with her program.

I think the guy was a jerk.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:38 PM
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6. So, let me follow, Your analogy is that if Gore, like the man who went
for the ball, had insisted that he won Florida and had prevailed, he would be seen as the bad man who took little Georgie's ball?

Brilliant erpowers!!! Welcome to DU!
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:41 PM
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7. Under the assumption you have represented his actions and
intentions (as unknowable as that is) to 100% certainty, at the point where he does get up and there's a 4 YO boy there, wouldn't you give him the ball? It's an effin' baseball, he proved his stature by recovering it, what would he do with it afterwards? Play a little catch, put it on his mantle for a week? It's not like it was a part of history or anything.

Also the story I read said this guy worked with kids through his church or something. Why didn't he say to himself, WWJD? Would jesus blow off the kid? Maybe jesus would have taken the kids peanuts too?

BTW, the guy DID keep the ball. And realizing he was in the right, he and his female companion left early.

fob
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 02:04 PM
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10. He gave it back (eventually)
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:43 PM
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8. I am with you on this one.
The kid was definitely not paying attention. And I am willing to bet that he does not know what goes on at a ball game. Some dolt sportscaster was interviewing the kid and his mom after the game; the guy told the kid: "Hey, you got a ball and a bat. Are you happy?" The kid, who looks like he's no more than 4, just mumbled something -- and that something had nothing to do with what the reporter was asking

I am a sports fan -- and a former sportswriter. But I am so sick of these idiot sportscasters who always have something to say, but don't really know from their ivory tower press box perch what the hell is going on down in the stands. Just call the goddamned game and keep your opinions to yourself unless you know what the hell you are talking about.

I can say this, though: the fan who went after the ball could have been a bit more careful, or at least aware that there were small children in the vicinity.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 01:28 PM
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9. Yes, much ado about nothing. No, the guy was definitely in the wrong.
He endangered a four-year-old and his mother to get a frickin' baseball. Then he didn't have the decency, having invaded the seats purchased by the mother, to give the kid the ball. The guy did forcefully grab the ball, he ended up going over the kid's seat, landing on the ground at the mother's feet. The bashed the kid again, while getting up, because he didn't have the decency to pay attention to what he was doing. The guy should have been kicked out by security immediately. He endangered other fans for no good reason.

So, yeah, of course this is much ado about nothing. That's what passes for entertainment these days in the USA. But the guy was clearly in the wrong from the word go.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 02:36 PM
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11. yes, I think the little boy learned his lesson
You are not safe from assholes anywhere in this world. Even at a baseball game with your Mom on a Sunday afternoon, some portly piece of shit is gonna knock you over and get up in your Mom's business just to get a ball. Then when called out on his boorish behavior by the rest of the grown ups around, refuses to accept responsibility for his actions.

And then a few days later some losers will try and blame you.

Its the american way.
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