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Cascadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 11:58 AM Original message |
Childless adults: Selfish or not? |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. I think people with more than 6 kids are selfish |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. With that many, the parents can't possibly take care of them |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. and requiring much more natural resources |
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blackmoonlillith (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. A wise decision if you're not into kids... |
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Cascadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. It isn't that I am not into kids. |
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blackmoonlillith (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Well, as much as you've thought about all of this... |
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July (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
72. Enjoy being an uncle. |
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Momgonepostal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. I have 2 children, but think you're right |
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rawtribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. If you loved your children |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. Me = No Kids - Me = Selfish As Hell |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 08:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
62. I'm getting scared... |
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GOPisEvil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
65. Heck, I don't want a DOG because of being tied down. |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. More like why not and a look of incredulity... |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. If I had kids I'd have to share my candy with them. |
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LoneStarLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
10. Here Here |
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SmileyBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'm not psychologically capable of raising kids. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
13. I don't think it's anyone's business but your own. eom |
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put out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
15. I made the decision to have a child. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
63. Absolutely. |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
16. One of my HS teachers told the class that |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
17. I have an older friend who I have always admired because of her |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
18. yes, people have told me this |
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xanadu1979 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
19. your friend is very wrong |
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TN al (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. I have 4 boys... |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. ***snarf*** |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 10:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
107. BWHAHAHAHA!!! |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
21. Benevolent. You should not have kids if you are ambivalent in the |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
22. A bizarre debate, IMHO. |
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Career Prole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
23. Not at all. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
24. I'd love to have kids |
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Philostopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
25. Mr. Nownow and I were discussing this last night. |
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cliss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
27. Not selfish. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
28. I wonder who's gonna take care of me when I get old. |
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dawn (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. I'd rather have a care-giver than force myself on someone else. |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
93. I think it's also pretty naive |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
29. I think one of the best decisions |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
30. No kids, but not accused |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
31. Paradoxically, people choose to have children for selfish reasons. |
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NightTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
32. "Selfish," my ass! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
33. With more than six billion people on the planet |
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prole_for_peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
34. i am a 38 year old female who doesn't want kids. |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
35. I've heard this argument before |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
102. Hear, hear! |
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dawn (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
36. I have been accused of this, and this is what I say: |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
38. Huh? |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 11:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
110. Your last sentence is BRILLIANT. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
39. Well from a biological point of view the "selfish" thing to do is to have |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
40. In my experience, people who call non-parents "selfish" |
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Ann Arbor Dem (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
41. Female here...I decided at the age of 25 that I didn't want to have kids |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
42. Personal choice...Just don't cry to me about it later on.. |
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FizzFuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. but that personal choice affects ME |
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TXlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 06:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. So one could turn the question around, considering these points... |
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FizzFuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 07:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. you lost me I'm afraid |
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TXlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:55 AM Response to Reply #60 |
66. My point was simply that |
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FizzFuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #66 |
79. as I said in my comment |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. We all make choices that affect others |
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FizzFuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:07 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. OK, you wanna call me smug?Fine,I'm smug and I'm self righteous |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Calm down. I wasn't calling you names. |
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FizzFuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. OK, I'm trying to be calm |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. It;s okay, we all have our issues that are emotionally fraught. |
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FizzFuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 07:58 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. I'm not the only person here making these points |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. I'm not the one |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:36 AM Response to Reply #53 |
64. The trappings of living in a free country. Maybe one of the children |
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FizzFuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #64 |
80. well, with a wink back atcha, and with all due respect |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Feh... |
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FizzFuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #81 |
90. so why didn't you adopt some more? |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 11:27 PM Response to Reply #90 |
109. Nope, I meant have a super day! |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
43. Individual choice |
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BBradley (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
44. Actually, I think it's just the opposite. |
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thebaghwan (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
45. My brother, who I was not raised with, doesn't want kids because he is |
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cmf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
46. All personal choices are made for selfish reasons |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
47. I'm 44 and child free! |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
48. We have no children |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
49. Why do people want to ascribe evil motives |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #49 |
77. Egoism and intellectual laziness |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 01:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
85. Drives me nuts, too. |
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FizzFuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
50. good question |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
51. I think childless adults, especially t hose |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
52. I have no kids and have never pined for children.. |
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Lisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
54. as an only child growing up in the 70s, I was in a similar situation |
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skippysmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:48 AM Response to Reply #54 |
71. same here |
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TXlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
55. There are lots of reasons people don't have kids |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
56. not |
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Rick in Maryland (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
58. It's the breeders that are the selfish ones. <NT> |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
59. My question: So what if it is selfish? |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-04 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
61. Why on earth would it be selfish? |
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scarlet_owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
67. How is that selfish? |
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TXlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
68. another point about childless couples |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. As they should. |
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GOPisEvil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Having an educated society is a good thing. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #68 |
78. Yes, I'm happy to pay to educate other people's children |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
73. As A Mother Of Two I Say: HAIL TO THE CHILDLESS!! |
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Delano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
74. Childless adults are missing something... |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #74 |
92. Joy is in the eye of the beholder |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
75. Fuck that - we're under no obligation to have kids |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
76. It's nobody's business why I decided not to have children |
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SiouxJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
82. Of course not. That's ridiculous |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #82 |
108. Well how about fifteen kids (and possibly still breeding)? |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
83. Childless and proud of it |
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Commendatori (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
86. Selfish? What a load of shit. |
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Sticky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
87. I care for unwanted children every day.... |
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Bertha Venation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
91. Selfish? How is not having children selfish? |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
94. It's the other way around |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. So, |
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SW FL Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
96. Not |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
97. I think people with Broods are the selfish ones. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
99. and how many people are there on this planet? |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
101. How the hell can using FEWER resources |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
105. He's just spouting Dr. Laura crap |
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FizzFuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. right. Meanwhile, "non-parents" are expected to fill in at work |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. Maybe you had the wrong job. |
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Red State Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
106. No, but I don't think it's selfish to have as many kids as you want. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
112. I Decided 'No Kids' At Age 11 |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
114. Not. |
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Mobius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
115. Yes, I have no children and it is anything but selfish. |
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