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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 09:34 PM
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Poll question: What's More Likely To Really Exist?
Give me your best guess...
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 09:36 PM
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1. UFOs definitely exist,
the big mystery is finding out whether they were spaceships or not.

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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 09:37 PM
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2. well, that's the idea
if they were ours, they wouldn't be Unidentified, would they?

:)
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 09:43 PM
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4. no doubt some of the test flights
of ours are still on the books as "unidentified." Lots of stuff gets classified "unidentified" when it can't be, um, identified (for "national security" or any other reason). I'm just being a semantics smartass, don'tcha know?



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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 09:44 AM
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22. I can attest
Back when I was looking into various spooky aircraft, I sat down with the released map of Blackbird training flight routes, and UFO reports for the same time period. Lots of overlap.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 07:35 AM
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20. they can be ours, without us knowing
they can be anything, without us knowing.
all we know is they'r unidentified, that's why we call m unidentified.
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Section_43 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:00 AM
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14. I vote for Bigfoot
After working in Alaska for two summers, it is possible to avoid human contact. My question is, how could it avoid the Grizzly.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 09:39 PM
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3. Of course UFOS, The universe is infinite am I right?
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 12:18 AM
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12. I don't understand this
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 12:22 AM by syrinx9999
The universe is supposedly infinite, but they say it's expanding. How can it be expanding, if it's already infinite? :shrug:

ON EDIT: Infinity was a lot of fun to talk about in my Philosophy 101 class, back in the day.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:15 AM
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15. it's very simple, really
just because something is infinite doesn't mean parts of it can't get farther apart by inflating. Take the integers, for example. They're infinite. The difference from 1 to 2 is half the difference from 2 to 4, so multiply all the integers by two. The product set (of even numbers) is just as infinite as the first (mathemeticians call such sets "countably infinite"), but the "distance" between the numbers is twice as big as before. Lucky for us, we can imagine this kind of operation going on indefinitely and still not run out of integers. Infinity is special that way.

Similarly the distance between stellar bodies is observed to be increasing, but that doesn't mean it has any prescribed limit on its increase.

Some cosmologists suggest that because the total of mass-energy and spacetime is finite, the universe would be more appropriately referred to as "finite but unbounded", and will expand forever, eventually suffering cosmic heat death. Others posit that depending on the amount of "dark matter" which has yet to be found, there is a boundary of sorts, an "omega point" beyond which the universe will stop expanding and contract to a singularity, eventually undergoing a "big crunch". Niether sounds particularly appealing, but our species probably won't have to worry about experiencing either one before our sun dies. FWIW.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 10:00 PM
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5. Flying saucers
Because I saw one once. Really.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 10:16 PM
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6. I Actually Think Bigfoot Might Exist

The video clip is interesting. The rippling muscles on the leg do not seem possible with a monkey suit. And the shape is odd -- I don't know how a human in a suit could adopt that shape.

But who knows?
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 10:18 PM
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7. You haven't mentioned Ogopogo.
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 10:37 PM
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10. Wasn't that an 80s rock group?
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 10:21 PM
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8. The Loch Ness Monster.
I have been on Loch Ness. Nessie lives!
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 10:27 PM
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9. I gotta go with Sasquatch here
UFOs exist because we don't know what an unidentified flying object it. But little green men? No. The laws of physics, particularly relativity, make if supremely unlikely that folks from other solar systems are visiting us and are able to be detected. Anybody smart enough to get around relativity would be able to go completely unnoticed.

Loch Ness monster simply doesn't exist. There is not enough life in that lake to support a large predator, much less a breeding size population.

I think Bigfoot is unlikely too, but not a physical impossibility like the other two. We know Gigantapithicus existed in Asia half a million years ago. We think it would be like Bigfoot. It could be in the Americas just like Wooly Mammoths once were, and if it were really smart, it would avoid people. But I think the thousands of reports are bears and darkly dressed people at twilight. I think the Patterson film was faked with only one of the guys in on it. On the other hand, if the Patterson film wasn't faked, well then Bigfoot exists, which would explain other sitings and films of lesser quality.
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Mr. McD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 10:52 PM
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11. I saw a flying saucer once but it was of a terrestrial origin
My ex wife threw it at me. I will need to see some solid evidence before I belive in extraterrestrial ones.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 12:56 AM
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13. True story!
My father did 24 years in the USAF. Special Ops.

We're watching "Sightings" one day. They're talking about Project Blue Book. They mention it was closed at one point.

He turns to me, dead serious look on his face. "Project Blue Book isn't closed." Turns back to the tv.

Never could get another word out of him about it.

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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:18 AM
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16. 70 sextillion
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 02:18 AM by sujan
7 followed by 22 zeros stars counted, dont tell me that there aren't any aliens who have airplanes.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/07/22/stars.survey/index.html
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:41 AM
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17. Nessie...
I just had to vote for Nessie, seems like a friendly kind of seamonster. I hope that she does exist. :shrug: :-)
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:42 AM
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18. Bigfoot
Or at least that's what "Weekly World News" tells me. :)
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:50 AM
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19. UFO's are a proven existence....
The acronym stands for UNIDENTIFIED flying object. It does not contain refrence to aliens from another world or solar system.

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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 08:42 AM
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21. Well...
I remember reading about this a few months ago, so if this is right, Bigfoot is definitely out of the picture...as for the other 2, I'd have to agree that UFO's are the only ones that exist for sure. And by UFO I mean the 5 inch mini-pterodactyl that is living in my flower beds. (Btw, anyone ever seen anything similar? It's not a praying mantis, and it's brown, and oh so very very gross.) :scared:

http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=raywallaceobit05m&date=20021205
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