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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:24 PM
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Ah, 25 years since the rise of Baroness Margeret Thatcher.
Edited on Tue May-04-04 12:43 PM by Fenris
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:29 PM
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1. It's a Cinderella story.....
Although the political battles with Mayor McCheese almost destroyed his career.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:34 PM
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2. Come now! Where are all the Britons! Don't you have horror stories
about the Baroness?
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:42 PM
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3. Kick!
:kick:
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:49 PM
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4. We will laugh the day that Thatcher dies
Even though we know it's not right,
We will dance and sing all night.

I was blind in 1979, by '82 I had clues,
By 1986 I was mad as hell.

The teachers at school, they took us for fools,
They never taught us what to do,
But Christ we were strong, we knew all along,
We taught ourselves the right from wrong.

And the punk rock kids, and the techno kids,
No, it's not their fault.
And the hip hop boys and heavy metal girls,
No, it's not their fault.

It was love, but Tories don't know what that means,
She was Michelle Cox from the lower stream,
She wore high-heeled shoes while the rest wore flat soles.

And the playground taught her how to be cruel,
I talked politics and she called me a fool,
She wrapped her ankle chain round my left wing heart.

Ding dong, the witch is dead, which old witch?
The wicked witch.
Ding dong, the wicked witch is dead.

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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:53 PM
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6. The kind people have a wonderful dream
Margaret On The Guillotine
Cause people like you
Make me feel so tired
When will you die ?
When will you die ?
When will you die ?
When will you die ?
When will you die ?

And people like you
Make me feel so old inside
Please die

And kind people
Do not shelter this dream
Make it real
Make the dream real
Make the dream real
Make it real
Make the dream real
Make it real

CHOP!
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:57 PM
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10. Let's just go straight to the bard, Mr Costello.
I saw a newspaper picture from the political campaign
A woman was kissing a child, who was obviously in pain
She spills with compassion, as that young child's
face in her hands she grips
Can you imagine all that greed and avarice
coming down on that child's lips

Well I hope I don't die too soon
I pray the Lord my soul to save
Oh I'll be a good boy, I'm trying so hard to behave
Because there's one thing I know, I'd like to live
long enough to savour
That's when they finally put you in the ground
I'll stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down

When England was the whore of the world
Margaret was her madam
And the future looked as bright and as clear as
the black tarmacadam
Well I hope that she sleeps well at night, isn't
haunted by every tiny detail
'Cos when she held that lovely face in her hands
all she thought of was betrayal

And now the cynical ones say that it all ends the same in the long run
Try telling that to the desperate father who just squeezed the life from his
only son
And how it's only voices in your head and dreams you never dreamt
Try telling him the subtle difference between justice and contempt
Try telling me she isn't angry with this pitiful discontent
When they flaunt it in your face as you line up for punishment
And then expect you to say "Thank you" straighten up, look proud and pleased
Because you've only got the symptoms, you haven't got the whole disease
Just like a schoolboy, whose head's like a tin-can
filled up with dreams then poured down the drain
Try telling that to the boys on both sides, being blown to bits or beaten and
maimed
Who takes all the glory and none of the shame

Well I hope you live long now, I pray the Lord your soul to keep
I think I'll be going before we fold our arms and start to weep
I never thought for a moment that human life could be so cheap
'Cos when they finally put you in the ground
They'll stand there laughing and tramp the dirt down

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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:59 PM
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12. "And the future looked as bright and as clear as the black tarmacadam"
Edited on Tue May-04-04 12:59 PM by Fenris
Genius, man, genius. Makes me really glad I wasn't fully conscious during the 1980s.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:01 PM
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16. Lots and lots of concrete and filofaxes, as I seem to recall.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:07 PM
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20. Hoorah for the modern age.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:59 PM
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13. "I saw a newspaper picture/from the political campaign..."
I hope I don't die too soon
I pray the Lord my soul to save
Yes I'll be a good boy
I'm trying so hard to behave
Because there's one thing I know
I'd like to live long enough to savor
That's when they finally
Put you in the ground
I'll stand on your grave
and tramp the dirt down

Elvis Costello, "Tramp The Dirt Down"; typed from memory, feel free to correct any errors


Also applies to someone we know and don't love a lot closer to home.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:52 PM
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5. "There's no such thing as society"
"I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:54 PM
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7. Ayn Rand is alive and living in Maggie Thatcher's uterus!
Edited on Tue May-04-04 12:54 PM by Fenris
Man, that's pure individualistic egoist bullshit.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:55 PM
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8. It gets better. How 'bout this one?
'A world without nuclear weapons would be less stable and more dangerous for all of us'
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:56 PM
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9. There goes the Logic Train, passing her Ladyship by!
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:58 PM
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11. Actually, this one's quite funny.
I don't mind how much my ministers talk - as long as they do what I say.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:00 PM
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14. but this one cuts straight to the heart of darkness.
Edited on Tue May-04-04 01:00 PM by Screaming Lord Byron
There are still people in my party who believe in consensus politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors... I mean it. To me, consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:03 PM
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18. Maggie, you are the definition of compassion!
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:01 PM
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15. See, I think that may be the difference between her and Reagan
She was controlling and almost dictatorial. Reagan appeared that way, but much of what he did was carefully crafted by the right-wing ideologues he surrounded himself with. Not to say he wasn't as evil as Maggie. They just had different styles of governance.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:03 PM
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17. She was a lot smarter than Reagan, but with the same ability to goof.
'We have become a grandmother'.
As in the Royal 'we', y'see. Very Freudian.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:05 PM
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19. Hmm. It makes you wonder
Maggs had to speak with the Queen on a regular basis, like all Prime Ministers do, and it is policy that the minutes of their meetings are never released to the public. I wonder what went on between the Baroness and the crowned one.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:08 PM
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The Queen's a known Liberal (in the British sense)
and she despised Thatcher. Bit of a turf-war there.
Charles hated her too, as one might expect.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:14 PM
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24. I suspected that.
Edited on Tue May-04-04 01:15 PM by Fenris
One instance where I feel justified in pulling for the royals.

So what does a British Liberal believe in? Please help the dumb American.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:17 PM
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26. Centrists, in the main, much like the Canadian Liberals.
Consensus based folks, laissez-faire economically, but with a social radical edge.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:18 PM
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27. Ah.
Classical liberals, then. Well, better than a Tory I suppose. At least socially.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:21 PM
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29. Nice but useless really.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:22 PM
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30. Well, naturally.
Centrism tends to be useless.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:08 PM
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21. Fascist.....
nt
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:11 PM
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22. England should be ashamed of itself for voting in...
Eva Braun as their "leader".

She was worse than Reagan. At least Reagan believed in Democracy, Thatcher was a Nazi!

:puke:

:scared:
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:14 PM
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23. And now, happily, fallen and gone.
Now there was a woman who would have happily marched through the rubble of Baghdad with Bush. An evil, hateful woman. Quite mad, of course.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:18 PM
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28. And here's the proof.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:15 PM
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25. Thatcher's downfall was the Poll Tax.
An attempt to introduce a flat tax into housing taxes. This happened.




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