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Tom_Foolery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:58 PM
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What movie was better than or equal to the book?
Usually the book is better than the movie, but there are rare instances when the movie outshines the book.

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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:59 PM
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1. "The Grapes of Wrath"
This wonderful film with Henry Fonda and Jane Darnell more than did justice to the book.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:51 PM
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25. Completely disagree
Though good, the movie pales in comparison to one of our true literary treasures.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:31 PM
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48. the movie is VERY GOOD though
outstanding really - I think Terrya hit it right by saying it did the masterpiece book JUSTICE. :)
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:59 PM
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2. "To Kill a Mockingbird"
although there are probably not many here that read the book or saw the movie.
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djeseru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:01 PM
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5. Read and watched.
Still one of my top favorites! =)
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Tom_Foolery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:04 PM
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7. I've done both...
and I agree. I was going to say this book/movie, but I decided to let someone else do it.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:34 PM
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53. Definitely equal, if the movie wasn't maybe better.
Gregory Peck is just the perfect Atticus.
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djeseru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:00 PM
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3. To Kill A Mockingbird
With Gregory Peck.
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RoadRunner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:01 PM
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4. "A Beautiful Mind"
Loved the book too, but the movie was magic.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:03 PM
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6. "Last Exit To Brooklyn"
Screenwriter Desmond Nakano turned Hubert Selby's explosive novel--which really was a collection of individual stories--into a coherent screenplay that accomplished at least two things in which Selby seemed to have no interest:

1. Bringing together characters that the book had left isloated; and

2. Delivering characters who were, if not fully fleshed out, at least considerably more sympathetic and human than Selby's one-dimensional cut-outs.

As such, I found Uli Edel's 1990 film adaptation of LAST EXIT TO BROOKLYN superior to the 1964 novel. And I consider myself a fan of Selby's book!
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:16 PM
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12. I have neither seen nor read
Last Exit to Brooklyn. In light of Selby's death, I was thinking about reading the novel, but it sounds pretty depressing.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:22 PM
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18. I'd recommend the film over the book.
n/t
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:06 PM
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38. few films physically exhaust a viewer, Last Exit is one of them.
the grime and violence wears one out.

and the only author who comes close to selby i have read in this genre is edward lewis wallant with "the pawnbroker," but more fully in his "the tenants of moonbloom."

good choice 'train.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:33 PM
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52. Read one of the greatest novels ever written
Pass on the movie. If I could, I would hang the filmmakers :)
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harper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:29 PM
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36. Did you hear the replay of Selby's interview on Fresh Air yesterday
Terry Gross replayed it to commemorate his death. It was originally recorded in 1992. Fascinating.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:31 PM
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49. Hell no, Night Train!
The film of LETB was a travesty. I grant that the filmmakers were able to beat the material into a "coherent" narrative, but to what end? So that they could force grace onto the characters? In the novel, there comes a moment where each character is offered the opportunity to stop doing harm to themselves and others. The characters reject this chance at redemption, and there is hell to pay. The film eschews this near-Old Testament justice (it's no accident that the last words of the novel are "Abraham slept") and, instead, we are left with a grossly sentimentalized Tralala ( a whore with a soul of gold?) It's as if Martin Scorsese, fell down, hit his head really hard, and got up and made a horrible movie. I abhor this adaptation of a great novel. I truly hate it.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:37 PM
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55. As an atheist who couldn't care less about the Bible...
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 10:48 PM by NightTrain
...I obviously approached the film without the preconceptions you brought into the theater with you.

Also, in the film I saw a lot of elements that reminded me of the violent, alcohol-drenched environment in which I was forced to grow up. Because of that, I felt a personal identification with LAST EXIT TO BROOKLYN that I've never experienced toward any of the other films that I've viewed over the last 25+ years--and we're well into quadruple digits!

As for what you called the filmmakers forcing grace onto the characters, I interpreted that as an attempt to add emotional complexity and nuance to what in Selby's hands were severely one-dimensional characters. As much as I admired the book, Selby seemed hellbent on eliminating everything from it that he deemed less than repulsive. Real life is far more complicated than the nihilistic dystopia of Hubert Selby's novels.

I've read five of them: LAST EXIT TO BROOKLYN (of course!), SONG OF THE SILENT SNOW, THE DEMON, REQUIEM FOR A DREAM, and possibly the most harrowing of all his books, THE ROOM. Incredible stuff, to be sure, but stuck in a narrow, habitual, and utterly depressing groove.

For those unfamiliar with Selby, see the films of LAST EXIT TO BROOKLYN and REQUIEM FOR A DREAM before you read the books. The former will help you to more fully appreciate the latter.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:13 PM
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56. I probably care even less about the Bible than you...
But Selby cared a great deal about it. I had extensive conversations with him about this aspect of the work (I used to be one of those people who "stalked" authors by telephone, and as a result, Selby and I developed a long distance friendship) For all of the novel's nerve scraping luridness and "obscenity" it is a very "old fashioned" moralistic work. You are absolutely correct about real life being far more complicated than Selby's nihilistic dystopia, but that is always the case with fables and parables. LETB is intended to be about deeper truths, but not realistic

Sorry, if I seemed like I was going off on your enjoyment of the film. That was not my intention. I just really hate that abortion of a film, but I guess you sensed that :)

Oddly enough, the film of RFAD may be equal to, or even better, than the novel. But it is essentially just a cautionary tale about addiction, and not the masterpiece that is "Last Exit To Brooklyn"
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:05 PM
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8. The Tin Drum...
...it was probably the equal to the book...a bit better, too, as the ending worked better, without that lenghty epilogue in the book.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:07 PM
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9. "Silence of the Lambs"
Great movie, good novel. Jodie Foster made a believer out of me. As did Anthony Hopkins.
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didntvote4shrub Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:12 PM
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10. No Question: Bridges of Madison County
Eastwood and Streep made, if not a silk purse, at least a passable coinholder out of a sow's ear.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:15 PM
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11. Last of the Mohicans
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:48 PM
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23. Absolutely!
The book was written in the 19th century wordy style. The movie rocked. So damned erotic.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:18 PM
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13. The Russian version of Solaris. eom
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:54 PM
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27. I just saw the American version.
The one w/ George Clooney, right? Great movie.
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:09 PM
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31. The American "Solaris" is superior to the Russian version.
The Tarkovsky version is overwrought and full of a bunch of directorial mumbo-jumbo.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:20 PM
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14. Maybe "The Day of the Jackal"
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:21 PM
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15. The Milagro Beanfield Wars!
nope, the book was better...

my bad,
dp
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:21 PM
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16. The Godfather/Jaws...
Arguably the two best American films of the 70's transcend their source material. Puzo's The Godfather is pulpish; Coppola's is operatic. Benchley's Jaws plays like a soap opera; Spielberg's is a primal, character-driven masterpiece.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:22 PM
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17. Thought of another one: "The Commitments."
Good novel, excellent movie!
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:23 PM
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19. Blade Runner
The book was slow and philosophical with a lot of concentration on Deckard's domestic life. The movie, even as adapted, was better.
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MichaelUK Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 06:02 AM
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68. Movie is a bit too different
No doubt both are classics, but I'd argue that they are too different to compare.

Probably a discussion on that on alt.cyberpunk
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PragMantisT Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:26 PM
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20. A Clockwork Orange
very close to the book, even down to the language.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:38 PM
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21. "Airport"
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:46 PM
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22. Disclosure by Michael Crichton
They altered the plot in the movie so the protagonist did more to resolve the situation on his own and did not rely on random events as much.
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:55 PM
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41. that book
had a really stupid flaw, I thought. The male lead, keeps having a partial flashback to the ending of his romance with the woman, but he can't recall it clearly; his recall gets a little clearer each flashback, till finally at the end he remembers it all.

spoiler:
yeah, dude you forgot your girl friend was screwing around on you and you caught her in the act. It isn't that traumatic a thing.
/spoiler
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:14 AM
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69. other flaws in "Disclosure"
1. The hero guy works at a company where you need security cards to get around from room to room. Then he FINDS, by sheer chance, a lost pass card! I wonder if he'll need that card later, when he gets locked out.

2. In the book, the main guy's friend in Malaysia (or Singapore, or wherever it was) was constantly trying to contact him to give him the evidence he needed and our hero ignored him until the end. In the movie, the main guy contacted his friend on his own and got the answers. He came across as more proactive.
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Frederic Bastiat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:50 PM
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24. "Shawshank Redemption"
Great cast!
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:52 PM
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26. Out of Sight
The Leonard book is ok, but the movie is great.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:00 PM
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28. The Little Prince.
I always loved the book and the movie did it great justice.

I also think that the movie version of Breakfast of Champions was excellent given the challenge of turning that book into a movie.
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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:03 PM
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29. Gone With The Wind

Beautiful!
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:03 PM
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30. Shrek
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Sentath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:25 PM
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33. Really?
'Cause I'd have to disagree. The movie totally lost the inverse aesthetic of the book

{rlg}
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:11 PM
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32. Lilies of the field
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Alenne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:27 PM
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34. The Talented Mr. Ripley
I thought the movie was boring but I liked the book.
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harper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:27 PM
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35. To Kill a Mockingbird, of course
It was both a perfect book and a perfect move. I also liked The English Patient. I thought the absolutely stunning cinematography made the movie.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:03 PM
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37. "Mystic River" - almost equal to the book, but the book
was so good that I can't quite make that statement. But I'd say that it was the best version of the book possible within the confines of a movie.
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:36 PM
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39. What's Eating Gilbert Grape
Both book and movie are excellent.
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:50 PM
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40. Jurassic Park
The book was interesting, but there's just nothing cooler than seeing the dinos move on screen. So much, much better than say the dinos in that 50s flick Journey To The Center Of The earth with James Mason & Pat Boone (I think. that's who was in it.)
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:10 PM
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42. Requiem For A Dream
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:32 PM
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50. I rented that the other day
wow, what a performance - did that Exorcist gal win an Oscar for that? For sure she SHOULD have.
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:37 PM
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59. Love that movie.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:12 PM
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43. The Godfather, High Fidelity, and The Ice Storm...
were all far better films than novels
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:13 PM
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44. The Passion of the Christ
Just kidding!
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Mr. Blonde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:32 PM
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58. This kid's review of The Passion
"A little predictable, but still good"

Anyway, my vote goes to Absolute Power.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:13 PM
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45. The English Patient
imho
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:14 PM
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46. "The Shining"- King, Movie by KUBRICK
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 10:14 PM by Mobius
not that ohter crappy one.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:04 AM
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65. Shining

Interesting choice. I was thinking about that when I read the thread title. But it's almost like the book and the Kubrick movie are two related, but different stories. Both freaked me out, but for different reasons.

That "other one" did suck out loud, though. It was yet another attempt to translate a King novel to the screen literally, which never works.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:29 PM
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47. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
YES INDEED.
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Triple H Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:33 PM
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51. "The Lord of the Rings"
Boring book, great movies. :thumbsup:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:23 AM
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61. I had the reverse reaction
The second episode showed some signs of life, but the rest of it was dead to me. Too long, no narrative theme, too formulaic, too many cinemagraphic cliches. One after the other. I started mouthing lines before the actors said them, and narrating the shot sequences. "Okay Legolas, know look dramatically over your left shoulder as we do a rapid zoom."

My wife loved it, though. Which is another reason we don't talk if we can avoid it. :-)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:35 PM
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54. MASH (the movie) was even better than the book.
But the TV series reeked.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:25 PM
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57. "Godspell" and "Jesus Christ Superstar".
Sorry, I couldn't resist!

O8)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:20 AM
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60. Holes. nt
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LeftofU Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:24 AM
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62. " The World Acording To Garp"
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justjones Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:45 AM
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63. "Beloved"
Movie was overlooked and underappreciated.

Book by Toni Morrison, movie by Oprah Whinfrey.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:53 AM
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64. Didn't read the book - the movie was sheer quality.
I had the great good luck of seeing the movie at a special screening, and Danny Glover spoke/took questions at the end. The movie had received poor reviews and poor attendance, and he was trying to figure out why.

I was deeply impressed with the film. Most of the audience didn't seem to get it. I still don't understand why not.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:05 AM
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66. Searching for Bobby Fisher

The movie wasn't out of this world wonderful, but it pulled the right strings with me, so I enjoyed it.

The book on which it is based was irritatingly bad.

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Midwest_Doc Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 05:57 AM
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67. Anything written by E.L. Doctorow
I have great respect for this author, and love his books. But the movie adaptations are uniformly better than the books ... especially "Ragtime"
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:20 AM
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70. The Color Purple
it's a tie between the book and the movie... they were very different from eachother.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:50 AM
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71. That is the only movie that has ever made me cry with happiness
at the end. It is such a wonderful ending, with Celie and her sister reunited and Albert finally doing the right thing by her.

There are some differences from the book, but I'd say that they are equal in quality.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:55 AM
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72. I agree... what the movie lacked from the book's intimacy
... was made up for in sheer drama. I'm a fountain at the end of it...
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:59 AM
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73. "The Princess Bride"
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:05 AM
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74. Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Sex...
The Woody Allen movie was much better than the book.
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 11:05 PM
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75. Planet of the Apes (original)
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 11:07 PM
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76. The Natural
The story was completely changed for the movie...and for the better.
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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 11:11 PM
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77. Jurassic Park 2
nt
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