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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:12 PM
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Cities with worst air pollution
California worst again


Cities
1. Los Angeles-Riverside-Orange County, CA

2. Fresno, CA
3. Bakersfield, CA
4. Visalia-Porterville, CA
5. Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX
6. Merced, CA
7. Sacramento-Arden-Arcade-Truckee, CA-NV
8. Hanford-Corcoran, CA
9. Knoxville-Sevierville-LA Follette, TN
10. Dallas-Fort Worth, TX
11. Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV

12. Philadelphia-Wilmington-Atlantic City, PA-NJ-DE-MD
13. New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA

14. Charlotte-Gastonia-Salisbury, NC-SC
15. Cleveland-Akron-Elyria, OH

16. Greensboro--Winston-Salem--High Point, NC

17. Pittsburgh-New Castle, PA

18. Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ

18. San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA

20. Modesto, CA

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4862359/?GT1=3256
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:29 PM
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1. interesting...i mean air quality has never bothered me
in Northern Virginia/DC
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:38 PM
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2. That's weird - I moved to LA, Altadena to be specific, after
11 years in Omaha, and I find the air here much better than in Omaha. Especially during spring plowing, fall harvest, or summer mugginess. My daughter's asthma is almost completely gone, whereas she was constantly on meds in Omaha. Omaha has a tendency to smell quite bad, especially towards downtown, but anywhere east of 72nd St. I work in Pasadena, which especially in spring smells sweet from all the flowers in bloom. Just my anecdotal experience, but LA's air is a lot easier for me to take.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:54 PM
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7. LA's smog is mostly photochemical
Not anywhere near as many airborne allergens as in many other parts of the country. Not exactly good for you, though. Ozone's nasty stuff.
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:05 PM
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9. Ozone's supposed to be hard on asthma, though....
my question when I see these lists is how did data collection and analysis happen. I know LA's got reasonable number of monitors, though my friend over at SCAQMB or whatever it is is not happy with them, and Omaha has virtually none. So, no data, you aren't on the list! Second, are they using averages that might be influenced by spikes in a few places? SOme real nasty air in, say, City of Industry makes the rest of us angelenos look bad? Who knows? But I'm suspicious.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:06 PM
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12. Omaha was allergy Hell
I was miserable as a kid from Spring thaw to Fall frost and the allergy meds back in the 70's and 80's were awful. Since I've lived in New England (since the late 80's), I barely get a sniffle. Don't know about LA, but yes, Omaha's air was not good for me either.
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:46 PM
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3. Woo-hoo! In the top 20!
My city is there. My kid was just diagnosed with asthma, too. I want to move, but my husband doesn't. :-(

I did question some of the city groupings. How bizarre to group Truckee with Sacramento.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:48 PM
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4. Gee, most of these cities are in the... SUN BELT!!!
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 05:49 PM by northwest
Who woulda thunk it???:eyes:
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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:50 PM
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5. hmm they lump OC in with L.A.?
orange county has much better air than the surrounding areas.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:52 PM
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6. I'm pleasantly surprised, Atlanta, GA is not on the list.
We have some very bad air because of all the heavy traffic.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:01 PM
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8. Way to go Modesto!
First we become synonymous with murder and mayhem, then we're named the most unfit city in the U.S. by some fitness rag, and now this :toast:

IMO, the problems with Modesto are primarily caused by Bay Area people moving here. While there's always been a bit of a pollution problem here because of the surrounding ag, the real hits to air quality didn't start showing up until the developers, followed by the Bay Area commuters, started coming over the hill about 15 years ago. You want to fix the air quality in the Valley? Permanently close the 580 at the top of the Altamont.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:05 PM
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10. I'm a Californian
AND WE"RE NUMBER ONE! YEAH!
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:10 PM
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11. Dallas topped by Knoxville?
Now I've seen everything!

Anyone know anything about the Knoxville sitch? August is a month of continual red air alerts here.
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:06 PM
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13. Okay, I'm going to the original report for a look at how they did this.
Hmmmm. here it is:
http://lungaction.org/reports/SOTA04_methodology.html
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The grades for ozone and short-term particle pollution (24-hour PM2.5) were based on a weighted average for each county calculated using the Air Quality Index as noted above. The number of orange days experienced by each county was assigned a factor of 1; red days were assigned a factor of 1.5 and purple days were assigned a factor of 2. By multiplying the total number of days within each category by their assigned factor, a total was determined. Because the monitoring data was collected over a 3-year period, the total was divided by three to determine the weighted average. Each county’s grade was determined using the weighted average. Counties were ranked by weighted average. Metropolitan areas were ranked by the highest weighted average among the counties in the Census Bureau-defined Metropolitan Statistical Area.
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and look at this bit
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Weighted averages allow comparisons to be drawn based on severity of air pollution. For example, if one county had 9 orange days and 0 red days, it would earn a weighted average of 3.0 and a D grade. However, another county which had only 8 orange days, but it also had 2 red days, which signify days with more serious air pollution, would receive a F. That second county would have a weighted average of 3.7.
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This makes it rough on the places which have occassional bad days, you see. That's how we angelenos manage to maintain our record. And since all they're measuring is ozone and pm 2.5's, a smoky fall with major fires can really raise your score.

And a bit on county-by-county here in California, for you curious OC residents
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California has 10 to 13 of the most polluted counties on each list, usually ranking among the worst ten counties in the nation for each pollutant. San Bernardino County remains the most ozone-polluted, but Riverside County tops the lists for both short and year-round particle pollution. Riverside, San Bernardino, Los Angeles Kern, Fresno, Kings and Tulare counties are on all three lists, while Merced, Orange, Stanislaus and Sacramento counties are on two of the worst lists each. El Dorado, Nevada, Santa Clara, San Diego Placer and Ventura counties made one list each.

California has historically led the nation in the battle against air pollution. At the same time, California has some of the most heavily polluted air in the nation. Aggressive strategies long at work in the state have resulted in significant improvements in the last three decades. In fact, California has more protective standards for year-round particle exposure than the national standards.2

There were fewer days with unhealthful ozone levels in several counties over the 2000-2003 time period than in previous reports. Four California counties moved to a passing grade, three for their first passing grade ever. One of those, Shasta County, improved from an F to a B. Four counties improved into the A category, registering no unhealthful ozone days; most notably, Solano County received its first A, having just improved from an F to a D in the 2003 report. Still, almost 70 percent of Californians live in counties that scored F for ozone.
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See, we're at least working hard on it.
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