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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:35 PM
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Lounge Manual: How To DU (not a sex thread, I swear)
Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 04:47 PM by undisclosedlocation
I've been noticing a lot of GREAT new posters around lately (Welcome to DU, all, if I haven't already welcomed you personally). Here then are some thoughts, observations, suggestions, directions translated from Japanese, and random foolishness intended to lessen your confusion, show you the ropes, or at least wear out my comma key. They are in no particular order:

1: If Matcom, ZombyWoof, or CatWoman call each other assholes, they're KIDDING. Be not alarmed.
Relatedly, a lot of people believe that there are cliques on DU. There are certainly in-jokes aplenty here and as with any group of people real or virtual, there are people who know each other better than others. However, unless they've been hiding from me really well for the last 15 months, there aren't any EXCLUSIVE cliques, and that's all that counts. If you're having trouble getting replies to your threads, edit the subject line (you can edit for an hour after posting) to include yaks, Mike Hunt, or ABBA. (What was I just telling you about in-jokes?)

2: A big one: IF YOU ASK FOR HELP AND RECEIVE IT, SAY THANK YOU. First, it's simple courtesy. Second, it much increases the probability that should you need to ask again, you will again receive assistance. It's not like it's hard; you just have to check My Posts and the replies there; if somebody answers your query, click on Reply and thank them. Failing to do so reflects very unfavorably on you.

3: Please kick posts that show effort. There was once a grand tradition (ok, a tradition) in the Lounge of posting a lot of photoshopped or otherwise manipulated images making fun of Bush, Republicans, neocons, or anything else that occurs to us. This has fallen into abeyance, partly because they consistently get ignored. If you see a thread where the original poster has clearly put in some time and effort, it's really really nice if you would add a little reply (just a LOL or thumb's up will do) to keep it up at the top for a while.
By the way, kicking a post means the same thing as "bump" or "bttt" elsewhere. Our arch-nemeses at Free Republic use "bump" so it was thought more seemly for a Democratic site to use kick (as in a donkey kick). There's even a little kicking donkey for the purpose, found up dere in the Smilies lookup table.

4: Similarly, if something makes you laugh out loud, you're that much closer to heaven, nirvana, karmic cleanliness, whatever, if you post a reply saying as much. Not only will it make the original poster feel better that people are seeing and laughing at his/her stuff, but more people will get to see it which is a good thing, no?

5: n/t & eom (meaning "no text" and "end of message") only help if you put them in the subject line. The point of using these is to tell the browsing reader that there's no other text but the subject line. If you put n/t or eom only in the body of the message, it totally defeats the purpose. While I realize that folks without a signature have to put something in the message body to be allowed to post, let me offer this suggestion: put it in the subject line AND the message body. Not hard, really.

6: It's actually legal to look below the top half of the front page. At any given moment, there are lots of neat threads that have fallen off the front page. When things are going quick, the front page will turn over in less than a half hour, sometimes as little as 15 minutes. You can miss a lot unless you scroll down, scroll through a few pages, sort by number of replies and check out the ones with the fewest-- there are all kinds of neat approaches to DUing apart from just checking out the latest and hottest.

7: Proofreading is fun! Ok, maybe not fun, but it barely takes any time and helps improve the clarity of your message. At least please proofread to the point that you aren't posting stuff like:
Those freepers is illitaret!" That's just embarrassing.

8: Major, major thing: READ before you reply. Do NOT just haul off and reply to someone's subject line BEFORE (ok I'll quit with the all-caps) reading the actual message. PARTICULARLY (ok I lied) in the Lounge, we often put smart-ass subject lines and then make clear in the message body that it's a put-on. And you know how foolish you'll feel when you post a reply calling somebody a Bush-loving neocon freeper (don't do that anyway as it's against the rules) and then immediately see the :evilgrin: or :P.

9: Minor, minor thing: Reply to the correct post. It's really easy to get this wrong. If you do, there's no shame in editing that post, erasing everything and just writing "Delete" or "Sorry, replied to wrong post." Then reply to the one you meant to respond to in the first place. Doing so obviously much increases the probability that the person you're replying to will see your response and afford them the opportunity to reply in turn. Hey, it's a message board! Dialogue's the name of the game.

Ok, there are my thoughts on How To DU. Feel free to add your own, sneeringly point out any typos I made, call me anal-retentive (like I've never heard that before), send bouquets, dark chocolate and large sums of money, or just keep the damned thing kicked for a while (ie, follow #3 above). Newbies, if this helped at all, I'd be extremely grateful if you'd let me know.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:37 PM
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1. great thread
welcome new DUers :hi:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:38 PM
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2. Number 3 - Fuckin A
:grr:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:42 PM
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3. Great thread! My advice here -
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:02 PM
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13. Deja Vu!
Appreciated it then, appreciated it during GD Primary, appreciate it now! :hi:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:51 PM
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27. Thanks and good to see ya!
:hi:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:44 PM
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4. You missed one.
Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 04:44 PM by Blue-Jay
10. Most DUers don't like blatant attention-whoring.

Make of that what you will.

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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:08 PM
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18. Can't make heads nor tails, but since I won't be here to get in a flamewar
Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 05:28 PM by undisclosedlocation
I'll leave it at that. :)
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:45 PM
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5. One major mistake.
Matcom, Catwoman, and zombywoof actually ARE assholes.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:55 PM
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8. Actually you got it all wrong
Mat, Zomby and GOPisEvil are the Axis of Assholes....Cat's just ...well......Cat
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:22 PM
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21. flattery will get you everywhere
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 06:47 PM
Response to Reply #5
24. Well, I would be an
asshole, but my bastardly obsession keeps me above that rectal fray. For the most part, anyway.
So color me a bastard.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:50 PM
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6. Good post, good advice
I'll keep it as my DUing Gospel.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:51 PM
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7. I dont get the eom bit...
eom ;)
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:57 PM
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10. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
I was that close to coming down and explaining it to you, too. (Bets that some other poster does anyway...)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 09:54 PM
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53. End of Month? That's what it was in retail...
eom
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:56 PM
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9. Excellent post, asshole!
:evilgrin:
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 04:58 PM
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11. Oh man, I've arrived! I am in the clique! n/t
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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:00 PM
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12. Good one UL! - eom
:kick:
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:05 PM
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14. # 8 needs furtherfication
1. Read all replies before you reply. Last week there was a link about drinking and memory loss, 3 posters replied with the same exact"buffalo herd joke from Cheers". One early in the thread, one in the middle and one down thread (no chance they were posting at the same time) It was obvious the second 2 had not read the replies. Often you see people make the same reply or the same point within a thread, sponsored by the Dept of redundancy Dept.

2. If someone goes thru the trouble of providing a link, and you are gonna reply in-thread, Click and READ the whole link. This is a common problem in LBN, as people are asking questions that are explained in the link or making declaratory statements of fact that are plainly contradicted or explained in the link.

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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:05 PM
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15. Robb is a dingbat
Post this pretty much at random, but especially in response to polls. It also makes an effective poll item.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:06 PM
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16. Kick
.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:06 PM
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17. Great Job!!
Thanks for that. Great for all to read and OBSERVE!!

;-)
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:17 PM
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19. thanks for the info from a newbie. eom n/t thats it, no more
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:21 PM
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20. Nice job, undisclosedlocation! (kick)
And since you said feel free to add your own, I would add:

10) Don't be shy. Post. It's good to cultivate on-line friendships here at DU. Sometimes a quick :hi: does a lot to build community here.

11) Whenever possible, give people the benefit of the doubt. It's tempting to fire off a snide curt remark but in the long run...it's a losing strategy for us and you (IMHO).

:kick: :hi:
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:15 AM
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55. Number 11 is good.
I've learned that lesson. I've gone back and looked at posts and think "Why did I have to say it like that?" and I always feel bad. It's usually too late to edit it.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:27 AM
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58. Who's the avatar baby? (Avatar Baby would be a great band name, BTW) n/t
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 01:11 AM
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59. That's my younger son.
He's almost 6 months old now. I have a 3 year old, also, but no pics of them together that would fit in the avatar, so I'll probably switch between the two.

That would be a great band name.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:31 PM
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22. Great article!
It's a good reminder for some of us oldsters too, like me. :D

:yourock:

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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 06:29 PM
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23. The hourly "kick" has commenced.
:kick:
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 06:51 PM
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25. Kick
:kick: :hi:
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 06:57 PM
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26. What's funny is
Except for one or (maybe) two newbies (trust me, I'm not a newby), this thread has only attracted long time posters, especially those with mucho posts to their history!
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bratcatinok Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 11:47 PM
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29. I'm not exactly a newby
but I'm a binge poster instead of a daily-mega poster.
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WhereIsMyFreedom Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:37 AM
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31. I hear ya there
:hi:
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:23 PM
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46. Same here...
Posting in spurts since 2001!
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 07:30 AM
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33. Well, so long as they read it, I'm not too worried that they don't reply
and it's equally true that #3 isn't necessary if other people are already kicking, which they were.

Hope all the newbs don't already have me on Ignore!:)
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 08:28 PM
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28. Not that I would dare tell a mod how to do his/her job
but these instructions would make a GREAT sticky thread!!!

What a service to all of DU, because we all forget the simple rules at some time and can use some reminding.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 09:57 PM
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54. Why not? The rest of us do!
Which is why I've never offered to be one.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:23 AM
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30. A LOL thank you kick to you! n/t
n/t ;P
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:44 AM
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32. Hey, what's with the sex thread?
great post.

another piece of advice: hit "refresh" often :)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:17 PM
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45. or F5 instead of refresh
:)
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 07:36 AM
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34. Great Post
asshole :D
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 08:32 AM
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35. BwahahahahahahaOL n/t
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:06 AM
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36. Skinner's reply; you know, I think he might be being ironical?
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:29 AM
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39. no such word
He's being ironic (or sarcastic - it's hard to tell).
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:37 PM
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42. Don't tell me, tell Roget and Walt Whitman
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Guy_Montag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:22 AM
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37. Thank you for the info
are there any words that are too rude for DU?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #37
44. yes...starts with a C and rhymes with RUNT..as well as racial slurs
depending on the context in which used.
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Guy_Montag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:39 PM
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47. That's what I guessed - thanks n/t
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:25 AM
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38. Great Thread! n/t
n/t
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m-jean03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:43 AM
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40. Question --
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 11:44 AM by m-jean03
If I say "Thanks" at the end of a query, do I have to say "Thanks" again after it's been answered, if it's something really basic?

btw -- Great post!!:thumbsup:
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:10 PM
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41. I'm no Miss Manners, but I'd say "Thanks in advance" would do n/t
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sus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:41 PM
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43. I would like to say THANK you
to all the people who have helped me.

I couldn't have done it without you!! :*
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:46 PM
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48. I'm sorry, you have to go around and thank them individually (kidding!) nt
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 02:48 PM by undisclosedlocation
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 04:57 PM
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49. kick to add
stow the "please read", or "must read" in thread titles. Am I the only one who never reads those threads?
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 09:44 PM
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50. I dunno, I'm willing to give people benefit of the doubt on that one
but if somebody were to do it all the time, akin to crying wolf, they'd probably go on a lot of Ignore lists, or at least mine.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 09:52 PM
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51. And give to the NighTrain/liberalhistorian Romance fund!
'Cause we all want to see this happen!
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:26 AM
Response to Reply #51
57. be careful with your pronouns
No one speaks for me but me. :-)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 09:53 PM
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52. You forgot to mention yak threads.
There, it's done...move along!
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:24 AM
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56. hi
:hi:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:57 PM
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60. Don't diss the "starless."
First, they may have donated anyway, and even if they didn't, it's just wrong for progressives to do that sort of thing.

If it's bothersome that someone doesn't have a star, donate in their name!
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Laszlo_Hollyfeld Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 06:12 PM
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61. You might want to mention something
about this odd tendency you lot have of spoofing one another's posts in the Lounge and how people shouldn't take it personally.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 06:48 PM
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62. I'm not a newbie but I still found it helpful.
I tend to read and laugh but not reply. No wonder it's taken me almost 6 months to hit 400 posts even though I spend several hours a day here.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 08:02 PM
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63. Yeah, it feels a little goofy to post only "Thanks," "LOL," "kick," or
"Welcome to DU," but then sometimes that's all you have to say, it's a worthwhile thing to say, and somebody will probably appreciate you saying it. You get used to it after a while.
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