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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:50 PM
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Future of the DU Gallery
As the current "Keeper of the DU Gallery" ... I find myself in a quandary. I now believe that DU is so heavily infiltrated with trolls and moles and disruptors, that I have not published the facts that we even have a gallery, or made updates for nearly six months.

It was easy in the old days ... check a user's post count, check a couple of their postings, then send them the secret link. Now, it's nothing for a troll to have 1000+ posts and even then I might not be able to separate the gold from the guano.

So what do we do? In the past I've toyed with the idea of a committee to help vet members asking for the location, but that fizzled (thanks to all of you who volunteered!) One solution is an 'open' gallery ... but many would not participate and then we would open ourselves up to scorn and ridicule by the Freeper hoards. Some don't care ... some take it personally.

I'm looking for ideas here folks .... there are 100's of pictures of friends past and present, including the antique MATCOM collection.

Thoughts?
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southerngirlwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:51 PM
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1. My thought is that you should change the URL.
It was rather easy to figure out. Sorry. :-(
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:51 PM
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2. I think we give the freeps way to much credit....
who cares if they see us in all our beauty....
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 04:23 AM
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41. I think so, too.
I don't think there are nearly as many around as some seem to believe.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:53 PM
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3. we need a coalition
kind of like homeland security but instead of doing background checks for terrorists we do background checks for freepers :-)
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:54 PM
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4. I gave up asking for access
because I never got it in the first place. :-(

I think jumping through a lot of hoops isn't necessary.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:53 AM
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52. Same here....I asked for access about 6 months ago
then about 4 times after that and never got a reply....I mean, nobody
could possibly think I'm a freeper or any disrupter. :(
..or at least, I hope not!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:54 PM
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5. As one who applied for it long ago...and never got the link, I don't
really know what to say. I think it would be up to you. I freely post myself and my family here, so it's entirely up to you! :hi:
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southerngirlwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:59 PM
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10. check your PMs
:-)
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:55 PM
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6. Sell the MATCOM antiques on eBay. They could bring a lot of money.
Then DU would be rich. :o
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:55 PM
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7. I'm offended!
I know nothing of this galley. I would like to contribute!
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:42 AM
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42. I haven't heard of it either
I'm interested in learning more though. I ain't skeered.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:58 PM
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8. I wouldn't mind you opening it.
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 07:59 PM by Blue-Jay
But you should really be asking the ones whose pictures are there now, instead of the regular Lounge Lunatics. Hell, I don't mind people seeing my picture. If some idiot DU mole wants to beat off to it, that's their business.

Oh, and by the way.... I *did* sneak a peek from another DUer's computer a few weeks ago. It was very cool to be able to associate some names with faces that I hadn't seen before. Was that "breakin' the law"? :)

Spelling edit. Whoops!
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:58 PM
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9. SOteric has set up an open-access gallery
for those who don't mind being seen by all and sundry. Part of a solution, anyway, especially for people who've already posted pictures on DU, where anyone can see and download 'em.

If it's a problem, DUers could just follow my lead and send direct requests to other DUers for nude photos...I've already got one of matcom, though he's a lot more spherical and yellow than even I anticipated and just walks up and down these stairs...
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:01 PM
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11. SNARF
LOL!

Forrest, you just talked me into having another glass of wine tonight! :D
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:23 PM
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26. Am I smooth, or what...
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #26
30. Heh.
One of my favorites.

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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. Did someone say nude pictures of MATCOM?



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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Silver is SO my color!
And I am horny, come to think of it! :D
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:10 PM
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17. You had to be reminded
to be horny?!

I swear, what's this world coming to when the men of M.A.T.C.O.M. don't get laid properly?
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. oh, I do! I do.... hehehe
It's just with my advancing years and all, I forget what it was I forgot! Or something. :P
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #12
31. Wow. Is that him and the fake cop in Bawstan at top?
and BTW, greg... are you new to Geocaching?
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. Been caching for 4 months
Have nearly 30 finds, own 4 caches, have one TB on the loose
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. Thank you, Forrest. The Gallery I've started is, in theory
a "Lounge" Gallery. I don't vet, participation is entirely voluntary, the links are public and we already know that some of the folks on "The Sight Which Shall Not be Named" have found them. Very little fuss was made and we all moved on.

The Lounge Gallery is at http://www.vickvelour.com

Those wishing to participate can send photos in .gif or jpg format to
webmaster@vickvelour.com
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:09 PM
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16. Hey, SOteric!
That "vickvelour.com" address has always cracked me up for some reason. Is there a story behind it?

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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:14 PM
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18. It's a Lounge Gallery
:-) 'Vick Velour' struck me as a great name for a cheesey Lounge singer. Maybe one who socialises with yaks.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:17 PM
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19. I imagine someone like this
when I read "vick velour"

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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:18 PM
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21. Yak!
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 08:19 PM by Blue-Jay


OK, it's really a Scottish Highland Heifer at the Indy Zoo, but it's very yak-like.

'Nother spelling edit. Oh, me grampy would be verra upset aboot that one.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #14
39. done-- pets to follow hehe n/t
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:04 PM
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13. I'd say make it open.
You can't guarantee a secure gallery. I'd nuke the current edition and start fresh, with *repeated* warnings about its openness.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #13
22. I agree,
there's no way you can make it 100% F!@@%@$! proof.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:18 PM
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23. I'm going to have this thread locked by invoking the image of Igor


It seems to provoke some kind of Pavlovian reflex in the moderators.. :D
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:20 PM
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24. That's Eye-Gore.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. That's Franken-STEEN
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. That's Abbie Normal
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:27 PM
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28. Let the lounge gallery be public
Who cares if the freepers and their ilk make fun of our pics? It's not like we're blameless in that category.

Let it be public, and warn people not to include their pics if they mind being talked about in a catty way.

Sure there are trolls here. So what? Don't worry about it. I don't.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:27 PM
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29. I can't even get to the gallery any more
The last time I asked for the new URL, I was denied access, and my picture was even in the Gallery! I don't know why; I had over a thousand posts and had even been a mod a few times. I don't know if it still is, it's been a long time since I've been there.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:20 PM
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33. I never even asked
I heard it was too exclusive.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:25 PM
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34. If you still have my picture in there, you can use it in the open
gallery, if you choose to do that.

Can you PM me a link, too?
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:31 PM
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35. My pic never showed up.
I sent it to you a few weeks before the site moved; I got the new URL, but my pic never made it. Forever a mystery!

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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 04:01 AM
Response to Reply #35
40. Your wolf is beautiful..
just gorgeous, I love :loveya: it. :thumbsup:
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Coyul Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:40 PM
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36. You can post our pictures
Purji and I dont care if our pictures are posted.We plan to post pictures of the DC march when we get back.
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Coyul Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:48 PM
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37. BTW could you send the link? n/t
n/t
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:52 PM
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38. I have been active in online comunities and internet dating for years...
My picture has probably been used in ghastly ways a thousand times already, so I couldn't care less what any freeper might do to it.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:47 AM
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43. just do your best Greg
that's all you CAN do. if you need help, let me know.

and THANK YOU for keeping it going! :hi:
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:24 AM
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44. I think, perhaps, it is time for an official DU gallery that is public.
I really appreciate the work that you have done, GregW, to run the gallery, and I appreciate the work of all the other people who have helped run the gallery. But I think times have changed on DU, and I think that it makes sense to change the way the gallery is run. While I understand and appreciate the herculean efforts which many of you have made to keep the gallery free of outsiders, I believe that too many good DU members are being excluded in this process, and it is causing some hurt feelings and frustration.

I propose that we create a new gallery, a totally public gallery, in which *any* member is free to post their picture, and *any* member is free to look at the pictures.

Anyone who chooses to include their picture in this new gallery would have to understand that their picture would be publicly available on the Internet, and understand that they assume all of the risks associated with having a picture publicly available. The potential risks are serious. The visitors to an internet message board are anonymous, and even someone whom you think you know may not be who they say they are.

If anyone wishes to continue running an unofficial and exclusive gallery, they are free to do so. But I think it is time to start an official public gallery. Throw open the doors, show our faces. We're not ashamed of being DUers.
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:26 AM
Response to Reply #44
45. Why not have a gallery that is exclusive to starred members?
It minimizes the freeper element, and seems to solve the problem.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:28 AM
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46. That's a possibility.
And we might consider it. But there are some members who can't donate or choose not to donate, and I don't think they should necessarily be kept out.

I would not want to send the message that the gallery can be kept hidden. Because there is no guarantee that it can.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:38 AM
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47. just so you know
if you don't aLready... the Location isn't that secret; i come across it often whiLe visiting fr, and cu.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:10 AM
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50. I think that is a wonderful idea Skinner
I respect that some want their pictures to be private ,
but I'm of the opinion a public Gallery would be okay
with me . We could re-submit if we are okay with it.

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:39 AM
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48. I have to agree with Skinner
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 07:40 AM by LynneSin
First, it's not fair to anyone who has sent their pics to the private gallery to suddenly be outed. Anyhow, some of those folks aren't even at DU anymore.

Second - I've seen what freepers look like and I know I'm a hell of alot better looking then they are. Sure I could stand to lose about 20 more lbs, but damnit - I'm a gorgeous natural blonde and I'm a liberal to boot



Love me please

:loveya:
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Parrcrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:34 AM
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51. Great Idea Skinner
It makes this whole process more personal.

The main concern regarding freepers that I can see is paralleled by their tendency to trash pictures of Chelsea Clinton whereas we, by and large, consider it inappropriate to do the same to the Bush twins.

They will sneer but who cares. Natalie Portman and Tom Cruise could post here and they'd insult their looks. They don't have opinions, they moo with the rest of the herd.

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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 05:51 PM
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54. Right on, Skinner!
Emphatic agreement. Screw the lurking freeper moles. Who gives a rat's ass what they think? I'm not ashamed of being a DU regular.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:55 AM
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49. why not just give access to people who have photos already in the gallary
or those who will submit their photo to you beforehand?

:shrug:

just a thought
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 05:55 PM
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55. I wish that would work for me.
I still haven't received the link. I've asked for it multiple times.

Is my picture still there? Can anyone send me the link? Pretty please?
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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:54 AM
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53. I never seen it
I'd like to see it though. I'm no freeper, I can put that on anything.
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