I have just about decided.....

[southerngirlwriter]

that this party doesn't want my vote. The most liberal site on the web permits sexist slurs but not other kinds of bigotry.

I am honestly starting to think that it might be in my own best interest to cast my lot in with the male power structure. At least they're honest about their sexism.

The DU sexists may have just created a new Republican.

Probably not, but it's worth pondering.

And on edit: this will get locked, but not the one using sexist language. There's some irony there, for sure.

[jobycom]

1. Percentage-wise

I'd say there are more people here who "get it" than other places. But yes, sexism is rampant, even here, in many ways, and is very sad to see.

[southerngirlwriter]

4. I'm not trying to be funny.

And I appreciate that you understand that.

I think * will be re-elected. Since there is no safe haven from misogyny among Democrats, it might be better to ensure my long-term survival by casting my lot in with them.

Self-hating but alive (and able to work from within and possibly live to see the conservative regime die) vs. Principled but dead (and never able to work for change again).

It's an interesting thing to ponder.

[slinkerwink]

6. I think the misogyny among Republicans are worse, and that if

they become a one-party system, that there won't be any way to effect any change from within. I'd calm down and think some more about this if I were you.

[slinkerwink]

2. that's because sexism is so ingrained in us that we refuse to see it

or to acknowledge it. Liberal men can't wrap their minds around the concept that liberal men also can be sexist. I'd still cast my lot with the liberal party for now because I'm ABB. And after Kerry wins, I'm looking for another party to help change the two-party system to make it a better form of government.

[Twillig]

3. Yeah, someone with a sig line like yours

assumes the high moral ground. Sure.

[slinkerwink]

5. what, you're criticizing her sig line?

:shrug:

[Dookus]

10. well

one loses the right to bitch about impropriety when one's sigline refers to a Senator as a "frothy mix of lube and feces that results from anal sex".

[southerngirlwriter]

19. my sig line pokes fun at a homophobe for his homophobia

much like the liberal radio shows do.

And all of my GLBT friends appreciate my outspokenness as a straight ally.

If any GLBT at DU finds it offensive, I will be happy to remove it and participate in the google-bombing of a homophobe elsewhere.

[Dookus]

25. I'm not saying you should change it

I don't believe in having tantrums over what other people say.

But I think you lose the moral high ground you like to pretend you've claimed.

[southerngirlwriter]

28. How so?

How are being anti-sexism and anti-homophobia incompatible?

[Dookus]

36. well

as has been discussed ad nauseum, "bitch" isn't sexist 99.9% of the times it's used.

You just don't like the word, and get all huffy when people use it. Fair enough. But don't claim that it offends your delicate sensibilities while at the same time linking to "a frothy mix of lube and feces that results from anal sex" in your sigline.
It looks hypocritical.

[Renew Deal]

7. If you want to be a republican, go.

And stop whining. Some people agree with you, some don't. That's politics.. That's life. I am for the death penalty, most people here aren't. I am for open trade, some here aren't. I was for Wes Clark, most people here weren't. So what! But if you want to join the republicans, go ahead. I hope you or your family gets a nice draft number.

[ScreamingMeemie]

8. I have decided that we are going to have hot dogs for dinner tonight!

:grouphug:

[orwell]

13. LOL n/t

[Zomby Woof]

15. be sure there are plenty of onions and mustard!

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...all beef and kosher for me! :D

[ScreamingMeemie]

17. I love mustard and onions on my hot dogs!

:loveya:

[NoPasaran]

26. I like mine grilled

Just to the verge of busting open. Mmmmm
A toasted bun is nice too.

[JVS]

9. May I suggest picking a party other that the Republicans?

I can understand your frustration with this site, but the Republicans probably would prefer to chain you to a stove. Third party just seems to be in order.

[Renew Deal]

14. Self Deleted

I was not being nice.

[JVS]

16. Are you suggesting this to me?

frankly I find that a bit insulting and unwarrented as well

[Renew Deal]

21. No, I am not

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Zomby Woof]

18. she is frustrated

I understand why. I know SGW pretty well, and even if you disagree with her, calling her a fascist is just too fucking low.

She is speaking from anger and frustration, and we all say provocative things when angry and frustrated.

If you have a better argument than "you're a fascist", let us hear it. But I do not think you do.

[Renew Deal]

24. Actually I do have a better argument. Post #7

[Zomby Woof]

34. that also sucked as an argument

You were responding just to her words on a page literally, and not addressing her emotions, and moreover, her reasons behind the emotions. Telling someone they are whining and to go away is no argument.

Calling sexism on DU into question is not merely the same as arguing both sides of the death penalty or who is the better candidate. This is about what it means to be a human being aware of others' feelings, not just which flavor liberal you are.

[slinkerwink]

39. I wish you'd done that with me earlier

;-)

[slinkerwink]

27. for once, I agree with you

[Dookus]

11. Ciao!

Rock on with your bad self.

[matcom]

12. yeah, we ALL hate women

oh and blacks
oh and Muslims
oh and non-white people in general
oh and we do NOT like gay people

haven't you figured it out yet??? DU is a WHITE MAN'S CLUB!!!!

:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:

in fact, Skinner is REALLY Rim Job!

get a grip already! :eyes:

[southerngirlwriter]

22. You're proving my point.

All the other kinds of bigotry got locked up within ten posts.

Not the sexist-slur one.

Why is that??

[Renew Deal]

29. It's about context.

it depends on how things are used. I have seen lots of bad words fly through here untouched. The bitch argument has been beaten to death. Some people agree with you, others don't. Get over it.

[southerngirlwriter]

38. The context was precisely the same.

He started that thread to cause a flame war for his own amusement.

I copy-and-pasted his exactly, only changing the sexist slur to a racist, homophobic, or anti-Semitic one.

[DS1]

20. Try, the only liberal site you're aware of

Thinking this is the most liberal site on the net just betrays your ignorance.

[Lizz612]

23. Don't let DU change your affiliation

Never let one thing change that, look at the Republicans that still fight for their party to be the party of balanced budgets and fiscal responsibility despite the take over of their party by the Christian fundamentalists.

"I am honestly starting to think that it might be in my own best interest to cast my lot in with the male power structure. At least they're honest about their sexism. " Defeatism will get you know where, ever.

As for the word you are talking about, SWG, I disagree, but I'll respect your right to feel that way.

edit speeling and formating

[slinkerwink]

30. what I'm deciding to do is to become Independent after this election

[Ediacara]

31. sexist slurs

Only in your own mind.

Like I've been saying over and over and over again, there is no offense implied in the "b" word 99.999999% of the times that it's used.

As a verb it means to complain, as a noun it's a man or woman who is rude or mean or difficult only to bother people.

That's pretty clear to 86% of DUers, and I am not sure why it's NOT clear to the remaining 14%.

If someone says, "I wanna make Ben Affleck my bitch," I would ABSOFRIGGINGLUTELY be the first to alert.


But saying, "I want to bitch about Ben Affleck," or "That Ben Affleck, he can sure be a bitch sometimes.."

Isn't meant to emasculate him or compare him to a woman, nor is it meant to be offensive towards women, or even meant to be more than mildly offensive to Ben Affleck.

[matcom]

32. I AM MAD AT DU SO I WILL NOT VOTE DEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

then, my dear, you are far ......

nevermind.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[KissMyAsscroft]

33. Wow, another oversensitive whiner...

You should talk to your parents and grandparents who had to deal with real sexism...

Every guy I know bends over backwards to be fair to all women.

Lighten up.

[slinkerwink]

35. we all have sexism ingrained in ourselves, and what's really

important is to acknowledge that we do have some level of sexism and work to change that.

[Moderator]

37. I'm Locking this

Ask the Administrators forum is place where you can
ask questions or make suggestions . I suggest you
please take any problems you may have with Moderators
decisions Directly to Skinner you can email him
at [e-mail] .

This thread is being locked for the folowing reasons
1)Continuing flamewar
2)Accusing members of Democratic Underground of
being sexist .