ok some just said this and claimed to be a dem:

[Mobius]

just got out of yahoo chat.
someone I have known a while says, "Most people dont have the stomach to do what needs to be done in Iraq. If we need to kill 85% of the population so they will be free, thats what we need to do"

no, i am not kidding

[against all enemies]

1. Say Hello

To Zell for me.

[aquart]

2. He doesn't mean free. He means obedient. He thinks it's a synonym.

Spends way too much time with video games.

[Snow]

3. I remember hearing that during & after Vietnam as well.

I guess the best response is that those sorts of solutions have been tried, & don't work nearly so well as the mass murderer expects.

[Archae]

4. Total cruel stupidity holds no party affiliation.

There can be complete horse's asses like that guy, even among democrats.

Just look at Zell Miller and James Traficant.

[salin]

5. ask them, if they were a policy analyst

who for every policy had to include a list of potential drawbacks (e.g., likely negative consequences) - to try to generate a list of all of the possible blowback scenarios from engaging in genocide of 85% of the population of Iraq.

[Mobius]

7. trying to get him to spell genocide is already too much of a challenge

:shrug:

[salin]

9. hahahaha

then I suppose getting him to think about how the world perceived Pol Pot and the .... Khmer Rouge might be a little to tough of an assignment for the guy...

[Mobius]

11. I mentioned The Hague to him and he thought I meant Alexander Hague

if that gives you any idea.

[salin]

13. So he has control issues...

"I am in control" Alexander Haig

[MsSnood]

19. ROTFL!

Yup, like I said, I real bright bulb, that one.

[arcane1]

6. has this person enlisted yet?

Funny how Iraqis need to be killed-off in order to be free, but that wasn't needed for the white American revolutionaries...


Your friend needs to turn off his tv occasionally and visit the real world

[against all enemies]

8. I like the real world

they're much better than road rules. oops, too much tv, never mind.

[Ernesto]

10. istherehope......

Welcome aboard Amigo!

[kixot]

12. You see, we have to kill Iraqi children or else they'll DIE!!!!

Makes sense.

[Mobius]

14. yeah and he claimed I was the hate monger for disagreeing with bush

:eyes:

[elperromagico]

15. Perhaps he's going for the "death is the ultimate freedom" angle.

It's the kind of logic that made 900 people gulp down Jonestown Kool-Aid.

[MsSnood]

16. Oh brother. Not the brightest bulb on the tree I see.

[Mobius]

17. WELCOME TO DU! MsSnood!

:bounce::grouphug::bounce:

[MsSnood]

18. Thank you!

:hi:

[sistersofmercy]

20. OK...

My first response was "WTF" but then after closing gaping mouth it occurred to me that they may have a loved one in Iraq. Also, I think the Falluja incident bush*whacked some people. It must always be remember that the US and the accomplice media have for over a decade, in spite of their "Saddam is an evil dictator" repertoire, have actively portrayed Muslims, by and large, as rapist and women oppressor. It has been an anti-Muslim campaign. If one were to do a survey of major news over the past decade or so, the stories have been mostly negative towards the Muslim faith. Do you remember the female circumsion stories? Most pertained to the practice in Egypt. But if the subject matter is something unfamiliar to the general public it gets applied with a broad brush.
I believe this person reacted out of frustration and a lack of understanding.

[Mobius]

21. He has no loved ones in Iraq

actually I know this. He does have 2 cats however, so he cant be all bad.:shrug:

[YellowRubberDuckie]

22. Are you sure he wasn't being sarcastic or making fun of someone?

[Mobius]

23. Oh yeah, this was real

trust me

[KinkyDem]

24. "Most people dont have the stomach to do what needs to be done in Iraq.

I agree with him up to the end of this sentence.

My problem now is that as the invading army, we must either turn over self rule and leave them to the process of cleaning up our mess OR we need to enact a system of violence and brutality that would make most Americans vomit, even the repugs.

This is quickly turning into a no-win situation. We (as a nation) fucked up, big time. Iraq, as a nation is fucked up (in large part due to us). We are failing as the conquerors. We simply are not blood thirsty enough to justify the sort of brutality that conquest requires.

That said, I don't endorse this sort of violence. I'm also torn about how to proceed in Iraq. Do we stay and try to help rebuild and suffer death everyday? Do we simply pull out and let "the savages" work it out? Do we send in 1,000,000 more troops and simply crush them into submission? Do we send the government aid for the next sixty years so that the people in power can skim money off the top and get rich while Joe Iraqi lives in a rubble pile?

I see no good solutions.

[Mobius]

25. ask them, what they want?

:shrug: