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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 01:30 PM
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Disgusting beyond words.. Fetus-theft..
Edited on Tue Dec-30-03 01:31 PM by SoCalDem
This happened to a woman in New Mexico when we lived there, and now again in Oklahoma.. Who says we cannot "afford" mental health care for everyone ??


STORY HERE

Suspect in pregnant woman's slaying jailed
Monday, December 29, 2003 Posted: 9:18 PM EST (0218 GMT)



Effie Goodson was arrested for the slaying of Carolyn Simpson and Simpson's six-month-old fetus.


HOLDENVILLE, Oklahoma (AP) -- A woman who had convinced her husband she was pregnant -- and was even thrown a baby shower -- killed a pregnant acquaintance and cut the fetus from her womb, authorities said Monday.

Effie Goodson, 37, faces two first-degree murder charges and a kidnapping count in the slaying of Carolyn Simpson, 21, who was six months pregnant, and the fetus.

A hunter found Simpson's body in a field near Lamar, about 100 miles from Oklahoma City, on Friday. She had been shot in the head, authorities said.

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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 01:35 PM
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1. i heard about this yesterday
I told my husband "couldn't she have just kidnapped the baby after it was born if she wanted it so badly?" (not that I think kidnapping is a viable choice, but I think it's much better than killing a woman AND her baby).

This really is sick in so many ways.

But you do hear of this often--not killing the mother then cutting the child out of the womb, but women who pretend to be pregnant (stuffing pants with clothes, gaining weight, etc) and kidnap children from the hospital and show them off as their own.

Is it societal pressure that leads to this? That you're not considered a 'real woman' unless you have a child? Family pressures? inability to get pregnant on her own? Just plain mental illness with no organic sources?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 01:40 PM
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3. I honestly don't know, but I do know that there are a lot of sick people
amongst us, and if no one helps them get better, this stuff just keeps on happeniing.. The woman who did this, did not do it in a vacuum.. SOMEONE in her family or circle of friends HAD to know that there was somehting desperately wrong with her..

How could you LIVE with someone who was "faking" something as big as a pregnancy.. ??

She must have a lot of "blind" people around her..:(

The baby in the New Mexico case was a full term baby and it lived.. The father got it back after a few months, if I remember correctly..
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 01:38 PM
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2. this has happened at least two other times that I can think of
in fact one woman almost succeeded in fooling people...she even buried the pregnant woman she killed in her yard somewhere...

with so many children that are in the foster system...you would think people would try foster parenting but then again anyone this sick shoudln't raise any children...
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 03:05 PM
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10. This happened in Ohio a year or two ago
What a ghastly tale
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 01:45 PM
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4. I heard about that
Very, very scary. And sick

There was recently a newborn theft from a hospital, but police were able to recover that child and return it to its mother.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 01:51 PM
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5. Hey, it's not as if this was an Imperial Family friend, ally or crony
this happened to.

After all, what can such genetically superior aristocracy like Emperor Bunnypants* and his offspring care about what filthy animals like us do in our pens?

:puke: :puke:

(yes, I believe in their heart of hearts that's how they think...just like the Caesers)
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Dr. Wu Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 01:54 PM
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6. Affordable healthcare would have kept
a woman from cutting the baby out of her friend's stomach?

How so?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 01:55 PM
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7. By treating this sick woman's mental illness maybe?
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Dr. Wu Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 01:55 PM
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8. oops
I misread your post.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 01:56 PM
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9. MENTAL health care might have addressed that sicko's "issues"
:(
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 03:49 PM
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11. This is highly disturbing
I lose a little bit of faith in humanity everyday.
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