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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:29 PM
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Greetings, Generation X! Thought you will never be DRAFTED? WRONG!
Edited on Sat Dec-27-03 01:31 PM by Dems Will Win
Greetings, Generation X! Millions of you, men and women, will be forced to register for the SPECIAL SKILLS DRAFT by May 1, 2005--if George W. Bush wants your body and soul. Brodsky, the head of SSS, says a priority will be drafting Special Skills Personnel: 20 to 45 year-old computer experts, linguists (especially Islamic languages), and engineers. All 3.4 million doctors and nurses under 45 will have to register at their local Post Office in 2005 if Bush gets Congress's permission.

All signs are they will ask for the draft at that earliest possible moment and will probably establish the Special Skills Personnel Delivery System (like the HCPDS) even sooner, as soon as the election is over in November, 2004, although these computer programmers and engineers would not have to register until the draft was activated. (they will check your IRS form to see your occupation and throw you in the Lottery Bowl.) Here is the Special Skills Draft info just put up on the official SSS.gov site:


http://www.sss.gov/PDFs/NovDec2003-Register.pdf (Go to p. 6)

They are gearing up the Special Skills DRAFT for 2005! No deferments allowed, men and women ages 20-44, Computer experts and LINGUISTS and engineers first.

The official Selective Service site clearly says that $28 million is being spent next year to have the draft ready for activation within 75 days by March 31, 2005, conveniently AFTER the 2004 election. All Bush has to do is say "We are not going to Cut and Run from Iraq, but we have no more men. THe Pentagon has told me we need to activate the Selective Service System". The scrubbed Draft Board recruitment ad (the first in decades), was just the tip of the following $28 million iceberg headed for a home near you:

http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html

-snip-

Strategic Goal 1: Increase the effectiveness and efficiency of the Manpower Delivery Systems (Projected allocation for FY 2004 – $7,942,000)...

Strategic Goal 2: Improve overall Registration Compliance and Service to the Public (Projected allocation FY 2004 – $8,769,000)...

Strategic Goal 3: Enhance external and internal customer service
(Projected allocation for FY 2004 – $10,624,000)...

Strategic Goal 4: Enhance the system which guarantees that each conscientious objector is properly classified, placed, and monitored.(Projected allocation for FY 2004 – $955,000)...

Total=$28,290,000



An annual report providing the results of the implementation of these performance
measures will be submitted by March 31, 2005. This report will address attained versus
planned levels of performance, explain unattained target levels, and identify where and
how strategies, performance goals, and performance indicators should be changed to
ensure that the SSS reaches its strategic and annual goals and objectives...

tie that paragraph to this one:

Strategic Objective 1.2: Ensure a mobilization infrastructure of 56 State Headquarters,
442 Area Offices and 1,980 Local Boards are operational within 75 days of an authorized
return to conscription...


-snip-

They are reducing draft activation time to 75 days from the current 7-8 months. The first draft lottery according to this official document could be June 15, 2005.

Congress would of course have to approve, supposedly after a Joint Session by the President where he could easily say "we are not going to cut and run" (same was said in Vietnam). By March 31, 2005, the draft may only be 75 days away.

This change the dynamics of this issue, because people will say OK, Bush is getting the first draft lottery ready by June 15, 2005 if we need it. Now do I trust him or the Democrat more to not reinstate, given Iraq and PNAC?

ALSO: That pesky Draft Board Recruitment Ad Back Up--With 2 New Sentences added by Jon Lovitz (The Liar on Saturday Night Live) saying there is NO Connection to Iraq.

And this time It's on the SSS.gov Home Page!

http://www.sss.gov

-snip-

Selective Service continues to invite interested citizens to volunteer for service on its local boards that would decide claims from men if a draft were reestablished. This invitation for board members has been ongoing over the past 23 years, although there has not been a military draft in over 30 years. There is NO connection between this ongoing, routine public outreach to compensate for natural board attrition and current international events. Both the President and the Secretary of Defense have stated on several occasions that a draft is not needed for the war on terrorism, including Iraq. People seeking further information about Selective Service's standby boards or application should consult "Fast Facts" on this site.

-snip-

Also draft boards reported being "unexpectedly" asked during summer training sessions to fill the Board vacancies (salon.com from a Philly draft Board member)

Also Rumsfeld's leaked memo said "long hard slog" and "we have not made any truly bold moves yet"--and that was after Iraq and Afghanistan.

They are even making sure the Alternative Service is all exercised and ready to go within 75 days of March 31, 2005.

This is called Performance improvement but it looks exactly like a readiness action. They are bringing the whole system up to 90% + operational capability after 30 years of dormancy. Obviously, with a war on terror this could be considered prudent (although you don't need a draft to catch Osama Bin Laden and several thousand al-Queadas).

Anyone out there a computer specialist, linguist, engineer, doctor, nurse and especially medical specialist, aged 20 - 44? You could be first to be DRAFTED if BUSH is re-elected. Because

Bush '04 = DRAFT '05

And it's not your father's DRAFT!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:31 PM
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1. lovely
:(
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:33 PM
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2. The SSS has one more S than the SS!
Jethro Bodine would be proud!
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:34 PM
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3. I get it, this was all a part of the plan
As I get my tinfoil hat out, I now see why millions of computer techs are out of work and have been out of work for over a year, some for a lot longer than that.

By creating a vast array of unemployed people in the listed categories, we won't fight this sort of draft.

Yes, I know. I'm cynical, and maybe he didn't cause the companies to send the tech jobs to India, but he sure is exploiting it.

"Jobless revocery" indeed!
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:42 PM
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6. But Bush sure does encourages offshoring
With all the lucrative tax rules for the foreign earned income exclusion, the extra-territorial income exclusion, foreign partnerships, and foreign limited liability companies, these companies would be stupid not to offshore. And when asked to stop these credits, Bush says he supports a global economy. So no.

More jobless young men and women available for cannon fodder.
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:09 PM
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17. And I'm one of them n/t
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:59 PM
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45. A Vote for Bush is a vote for war!!! make your own bumbper sticker.
This about sums up election 2004.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:38 PM
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4. I wonder...
Is this just part of the SSS job? Perhaps it doesn't necessarily mean that a draft is imminent. Clearly, their job is to have a system ready in case there is a need for a draft. It is interesting that they have a deadline date in 2005, but that could be an internal deadline.

I think that the GOP would be committing political suicide if they instituted a draft. They would lose so much support from voters, that they could kiss their prospects of national office goodbye for the next 10 years.

Also, doesn't congress have to approve a draft? Of course, if the GOP controls both houses, then this shouldn't be a problem for them, but it is a potential sticking point.

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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:47 PM
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9. If Bush went to Congress in 2005 and just mentioned the phrase
Edited on Sat Dec-27-03 01:48 PM by Dems Will Win
"We're not going to Cut and Run" -- after being re-elected -- he would get the DRAFT in a heartbeat. Only people don't realize there are no longer student deferments, that the HCPDS AND SSPDS will force 3.4 million doctors and nurses and millions of people with computer, language and engineering skills to register to join the PNAC Plan.

By the way, here's the Iraqnam Rag, which should explain everything (sing to the Vietnam Rag--Fixin' To Die Rag by Country Joe):

Give me an O
Give me an I
Give me an L
What's that spell?
What's that spell?
What's that spell?

OIL! OIL! OIIIIIILLL!!!

Well, come on all you real young men
That son of a Bush needs your help again.
He's got himself in a terrorist jam
Way over yonder in Iraqnam
So put down your books and pick up a gun,
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun!

And it's one, two, three --
It’s OIL we’re fighting for!
That’s why we have to kill Saddam,
Next stop is Iraqnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well the media don’t wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

If you don’t know, here’s the PNAC Plan:
Lose Osama in Afghanistan,
Then take over in Iraqnam
You we need the gas for our mini-vans.
Uzbekistan, Tajikistan,
There you got the PNAC Plan!

And it's one, two, three --
It’s OIL we’re fighting for!
That’s why we have to kill Saddam,
Next stop is Iraqnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well the media don’t wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

Well, come on PNAC, let's move fast;
Your big chance has come at last.
Our need for oil's just increased,
I hear they got some in the Middle East.
We’re gonna make sure, it’s for certain
The world’s safe for Halliburton!

And it's one, two, three --
It’s OIL we’re fighting for!
That’s why we have to kill Saddam,
Next stop is Iraqnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well the media don’t wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

Well come on soccer moms throughout the land,
Pack your kids off to Iraqnam!
Come on fathers, don't hesitate,
Send your kids off before it's too late.
Be the first one on your block
To have your kid come home in a box.

And it's one, two, three --
It’s OIL we’re fighting for!
That’s why we have to kill Saddam,
Next stop is Iraqnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well the media don’t wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

Come on now people! There’s something like 36811 of you out there and if you really want to end this war you’re going to have sing louder than that! Are you ready?

And it's one, two, three,
It’s OIL we’re fighting for!
That’s why we have to kill Saddam,
Next stop is Iraqnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well the media don’t wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die!!


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GURUving Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:50 PM
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10. I disagree
I have seen what the power of propaganda can do to a population. US citizens held without rights of due process? Three years ago, most would have said bullcrap - it'll never happen.

Two wars that have produced nothing for America other than a massive debt and plenty of dead people? More than half of the public still supports this administration.

Concentration camps on Guantanamo? Nobody cares.

By the time the draft rolls around, most will be convinced it is necessary to protect them from some outside threat - whatever that threat may conveniently be at the time. Most don't want to believe they are being led by manipulators and thieves.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:33 PM
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19. I have given up listing all the things Bush wouldn't dare do
that are now biting at our buttocks.

Thinking BushCo would stick at a draft because they would worry about the 2008 election is foolhardy at best. Dubya is GOD's chosen President so everything he does is HIS will.

How can you even consider political considerations when following God's commands?
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:33 PM
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34. Point well taken
But the GOP would be shaking in their boots if he called for a draft.

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:41 PM
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5. This who thread is very upsetting but one part is obviously deceptive:
"They are gearing up the Special Skills DRAFT for 2005! No deferments allowed, men and women ages 20-44, Computer experts and LINGUISTS and engineers first."

No deferrements allowed? Do you really expect to see someone by the name of DeLay, Ashcroft, or Cheney drafted? Realistically speaking, there ain't no way in hell. Especially for wars started by assholes who never saw combat, who were, in fact, were very creative in their excuses for avoiding it. Armchair warriors are the most dangerous people alive.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:51 PM
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11. I meant no medical deferments for HCPDS or the SSPDS DRAFTS
You have to be totally disabled for a medical deferment in those sections of the NEW DRAFT.

The rich and the powerful will always find a way to get their children out I agree. Such it has always been...

Bush '04 = DRAFT '05
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:42 PM
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7. *suddenly forgets everything about computer systems*
Nope, dunno nottin bout dat computer box thing!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:45 PM
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8. Look for a surge in "Log Cabin Republican" membership
I know a lot of young Republican war "supporters" who will suddenly & mysteriously be very ill or very gay when these things come to pass...
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:52 PM
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12. Mind if I turf this over
to a site I go to?
It is a Honda CRX site, lots of young guys, and a few RABID bush lovers.
Can I?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:56 PM
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14. Absogundunkley!
Everyone under 44 should know that they should vote for ANYBODY BUT BUSH next year.

Unless they really like that Olive Look.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:53 PM
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13. As a computer programmer by profession..
I'm damn glad I'm 46..

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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:58 PM
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15. Just think about it.
They can't find programmers to work for ditch-digging wages. Simple as that...
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:59 PM
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22. As a advocate of non violence...
asthma doesn't seem so bad right now.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 10:27 PM
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50. Yep - I've got a mild case of asthma.
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:51 PM
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26. but you're not really an expert
at least, that's what prospective employers will tell you if you try to look for a new job in the field - obolete skills and all that. There's no way anyone over - what, 35? 40? can be an expert :)

Can't have it both ways, now can we?

Oops! I keep forgetting: white is black, good is bad, we have always been at war with Oceania, etc.

linda
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 08:59 PM
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48. I'm 46 too
but I already served. :D
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 11:25 PM
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52. That's OK, they'll take us for the Home Guard or Volkstrum
Maybe we'll be at the same spot on the Canadian Border with moth-eaten Springfield '03's, trying to keep terra-ists out and young cannon fodder in...
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:07 PM
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16. and I blame both sides for this
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:13 PM
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18. Can't blame Dean or Kucinich...
And who do want running the country? Bush or a Dem? Dem = NO DRAFT because thyey will be able to bring in foreign troops and Bush will never swing that one now.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:50 PM
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20. Dem DOES NOT EQUAL NO DRAFT
Dean has already proven that he is pro-occupation, pro-M/I complex, and pro-AIPAC. Voting for him or anybody that is pro-war is not an option to me, this is a point I will not compromise on any level.

After the primaries I will definitely be changing my Party affiliation.

81 House "Democrats" voted YEA on the tenth of October of 2002.
http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=2002&rollnumber=455

29 Senate "Democrats" voted YEA on the eleventh of October of 2002.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237

The word "angry" doesn't even BEGIN to describe how I feel about this.

As far as the pro-war Democrats trying to get on the Democratic ticket right now, you burned me once...you WILL NOT get the chance to do it again.:mad:
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:39 PM
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35. What are the twins
occupations? Or are they "disabled"?!
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:05 PM
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24. You don't need foriegn troops if you don't
invade other countries that haven't done anything to us.

Accepting Bush's premise for Iraq is the wrong direction to take. Okay, we're in there and we can't be seen as running out with our tales between our legs. Granted. However, replacing one occupation army with another isn't going to work.

There will be no reasonable approach to this issue as long as BushCo and the PNAC remain in power.

The draft is just another reason to kick them out.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:55 PM
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21. Thanks fo the heads up! I unfortunately picked up some GIS skills...
I'm going to "unlearn" ArcMap 8.3 next Monday.
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wanderingbear Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:03 PM
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23. Thought you would never another civil war in the U.S. ? Wrong!!!
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:45 PM
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25. Who are they trying to kid....?
I mean seriously. Think people are going to join the "glorious
crusade" of Herr Bush and co.? :eyes: I don't think so...
Maybe this is why they're trying to keep the unemployment lines so
long, when you have no job...being drafted starts looking "good".
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #25
42. Well,
"I mean seriously. Think people are going to join the "glorious
crusade" of Herr Bush and co.? :eyes: I don't think so..."

You haven't watched FOX lately.
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shawn703 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:57 PM
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27. An I thought when I turned 26 this year
I'd lived long enough to not worry about getting drafted. (Wasn't 26 the max age during the Vietnam-era draft?) Now as a married father of two, the primary wage-earner for my household, and mortgage and debts I know I couldn't pay on an E-1 pay grade - my family would end up homeless if I had to go protect Bush's oil fields.

It's kind of ironic that they wouldn't take me when I tried to enlist in the Marines when I was 19 and single (medical reasons, but I'm not disabled by any stretch). But now that I've got a bunch of computer experience and a family, it's okay for me to go now?



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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:14 PM
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29. Afraid so.
Edited on Sat Dec-27-03 06:17 PM by Dems Will Win
Following the passing of the SSPDS mechanism after the assumed re-election (although a Dem will kick Bush's butt if enough people in 2004 know the DRAFT is coming in 2005), Bush will ask for the reinstatement of conscription and thus the activation of the SSPDS on April 1, 2005. If your job application says software developer, or other kind of computer specialist, you will be required to go to your local Post Office by May 1, 2005 and fill out the Special Skills Registration Compliance Form. Here they will presumably ask what kind of specialist you are.

On June 15, 2005 they will hold the first Lottery and you will be in it. All needed specialists will be drawn one at a time, one day at a time. The DoD request is for 300 Unix System Analysts--let's say your specialty. The hand goes in the Lottery Container and draws out your birthday--just your luck! The number 1 is assigned to you and the thousands of other Unix System Analysts born on that day--doesn't matter if they are 20 or up to age 44--they now all have number 1. There are no medical deferments and no gay deferment (I think under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"). A few more birthdays are drawn just to be sure and then the notices are sent out to the first batch of Number 1s.

Then it's 10 days to appeal. Deferments are allowed for essential community service, as with the Health Care DRAFT. Then after your appeal is heard and decided, you will receive an induction notice, giving you 10 days to report to the local center. The odds are low, but the threat is now very real.

Good Luck and vote for ANYBODY BUT BUSH in 2004.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 05:25 PM
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28. im gonna pull a pyle
time to work on being shitty at everything. remember pyle from full metal jacket? that will be me come basic training. except for the scene in the head.
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:38 PM
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43. Nice. lol n/t
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:14 PM
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30. Uhm, isn't Gen X above the draft age by now?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:22 PM
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31. Not if they are doctors, nurses, one of 62 medical specialties, linguists,
engineers, computer experts or any occupation the DoD says they can no longer fill and have a shortage of. The Medical Draft is called HCPDS (Health Care Personnel Delivery System} and the "top priority" for SSS Director Brodsky is to get the SSPDS (Special Skills Personnel Delivery System) approved by Congress and up and going, presumably by Spring 2005, when all 8,000 DRAFT BOARD vacancies are also supposed to be filled and activation is only 75 days away.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. Wow...plenty of out of work computer people too..
coincidence?
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put out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:23 PM
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40. Thanks for the site and the information.
I have tried to describe these measures to others, and all I get is a blank stare. I will be just barely young enough to register for this peachy invention of bush's. But if I don't, who goes in my place? No child or acquaintance of our leader's, that's for sure.
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Gingersnap Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:33 PM
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33. SCARY--I'm a linguist, hubby's an MD
I wonder if they want linguists who don't work with Middle Eastern languages? There are too few who do, so even if there were a draft, they wouldn't get many.

One more reason for us to be ABB. (Not that there was any chance we'd be voting Bush in the past...).
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:46 PM
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36. They will draft any linguist with a pulse. Language won't matter
They'll teach you Arabic or Farsi or whatever...

Women too probably, like the HCPDS.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 09:15 PM
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49. You mean, they'll TRY to teach you Farsi.
Doesn't mean you have to learn. What are they going to do, send you to Leavenworth for being stupid?
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Gogi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:50 PM
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37. They need fresh troops
story reported on local tv: army reservist got letter day before xmas activating him for service in iraq. This man looked to be in his late forties and was three months from retirement from the reserves. He had already served in Kosovo and Afghanistan. His wife has had two strokes which have left her disabled. He tried to get an exemption but was unable to. Xmas day he left for Colorado. They have to re-instate at least a limited draft simply to replace burned out troops.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:04 PM
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38. woohoo! Not gonna be me!
:toast:
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:15 PM
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39. They wouldn't want me.
Edited on Sat Dec-27-03 07:16 PM by Touchdown
At 38, I'm too fat, and WAY TOO GAY!

even though I'm a veteran, if they make me go, I won't keep my mouth shut about it this time. I AM also going to stare long and hard at the weenies and butts in the shower. Those quick glances when I was 18-21 weren't enough.:evilgrin:
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:32 PM
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41. This is Dems Will Win, and I'm not sure that there is a GAY DEFERMENT
any more. If you tell them I guess.

Anybody know how things have changed since DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL??
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raifield Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:52 PM
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44. My least favorite things about this... (besides the obvious)
ENHANCE THE SYSTEM WHICH GUARANTEES THAT EACH CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR IS PROPERLY CLASSIFIED, PLACED, AND MONITORED.

Classified? Like, Objecting, Sort of Objecting, and Not Really Objecting, Send Him/Her Over Anyway?

PLACED? Placed where? Gitmo?

And Monitored? :mad:

One of their goals being to: Attain and appoint Registrars in 85% of the Nation’s high schools.

Understandable. Wouldn't want to let them get any sort of education (Until college, you really aren't getting one anyway). Ship them out and if they come back at all, they come back uneducated and ready to work the lower-class jobs! If they're working at all. :mad:

Obtain high school drop-out and voter registration lists.

Why would they need these lists?

Craptacular, especialy since I'm going to be....22 in November of 2005.

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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 08:15 PM
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46. Get on your local draft boards!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 08:54 PM
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47. My nephew is a brand spanking new doctor
He is getting married in the spring. I don't want him hurt, I don't want him to die for bush's world domination fantasy.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 10:48 PM
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51. 2 nephews here and one's a linguist. Just sent my pro-Bush Brother
a copy of this post. My niece will be of age in six years - they'll probably change the age to 18 sooner or later - so it might be sooner.
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