What do you mean mad cow isn't terrorism??

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

Every time something happens in this nation, some spokesperson from the Bush administration goes on TV and claims the event is not known to be terrorism.

Whether it be blackouts, mad cow or any of a lone line of parade of horribles thrust upon this nation in the last three years, how can one NOT call it terrorism?

Dictionary definition of terrorism:

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

As I read this definition, it is clear to me that everything this administration has accomplished has been by way of terrorism.

[JohnKleeb]

1. I heard that the secretary of agriculture said something like

oh I am eating beef with my christmas dinner or something. Anyhow as of this moment, I am abstaining from beef. Mad Cow doesnt sound good and besides, why not.

[NicoleM]

2. Word.

They rule by fear. It's all they've got.

[ixion]

3. According to Chomsky, the US govt is the single largest proponent

of terror in the world, either by direct acts or by supporting dictators.
And this misadministration has taken that terror to new levels both domestically and internationally with their ideological policies.
Mad Cow disease could have been avoided if simple safeguards had been in place, safeguards that neocons deplore.
So who takes the blame for this? Well, as usual, it's the fault of flawed policy, but the people will pay the price.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

4. The Democratic senate did propose legispation to regulate this

it was blocked in the congress. To me, we have been terrorized by industries that do nothing for the public good if it interrupts their bottom line. They pay off our legislature which brings in the illegal part (anyone knows bribery when they see it regardless of the fact that the USSC will not acknowledge it) Since we all need to eat, there is the force according to the strict definition and the political or ideological part...well...

[maggrwaggr]

14. gee, think the Dumbocrat "leaders" will point this out?

no. they'll just stroke their pussies and kiss Republican ass

[MuseRider]

5. I heard the Sec. of Ag

this morning on CNN. After she was done S. O'Brien (whatever) said that it sounded like the sec was downplaying the risk but that she ***was only doing her job***! I thought that the government officials were supposed to be working for us not the corporations. Am I wrong here? Downplaying the risk is NOT good for the public.

[barbaraann]

19. You're right.

And we know what Soledad O'Brien is, don't we?

[baby_bear]

6. Congressional terrorism

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/23/science/23WIRE-MADCOW.html

<snip>
Agriculture inspectors at the slaughterhouse in Mabton learned of the possibility of the disease when they tested the meat of a cow that had been unable to walk, a symptom of mad cow disease. A fraction of all cows in slaughterhouses that cannot walk on their own are tested for the disease.

The possibility of an infected cow renewed calls to end the slaughter of animals that cannot walk. Wayne Pacelle, the vice president of the Humane Society of the United States, said that such animals are pushed by bulldozers or dragged by chains, and are a threat to the food supply.

He said that the Senate had approved an amendment to the Agriculture Department's appropriations bill for the current fiscal year that would have forbidden such slaughter, but that the House had narrowly defeated it and a conference committee had left it out of the current version. The bill is part of the omnibus appropriations bill that Congress will face in January.

The diagnosis in Washington State came just a week after a federal appeals court in New York resuscitated a lawsuit brought by an animal rights group that believes the Agriculture Department has not done enough to protect consumers from mad cow disease.

The group, Farm Sanctuary, maintained in a 1998 lawsuit that the government's policy of allowing the slaughter of animals that cannot walk poses a significant health risk to consumers. A judge threw out the lawsuit, saying the danger was remote, but the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit overturned that decision last week and revived the lawsuit.

</snip>

This was all certainly below my personal radar. Why would the House defeat a bill that would so obviously be beneficial? And not just to human health, but the economy as well. This could be an economic disaster, even if no other cows show up with the disease.
:mad:
It also made me sick to read that they drag or bulldoze cows that can't walk into the slaughter. No more beef for this girl, safe or not.

s_m

[MuseRider]

7. I was off

beef for about 4 years. It was not all that difficult. I felt good physically and also felt very good not supporting the barbaric ways that they treat these poor creatures. I may go back to my no beef diet now and try to get off of all meat eventually. I KNOW my heart and mind could rest if I did, these stories make me so very sad.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

8. Thanks, SM

I am beyond angry at thinking of SO many events including 9/11 that were indeed PREVENTABLE if their bottom lines weren't considered MORE IMPORTANT than consumer safety to this administration.

[Cleita]

9. Tofu is an aquired taste.

However, once you learn how to cook it and like how this mild custard feels in your mouth, you will find it a satisfying protein substitute for meat. It's also much more gentle than ordinary beans because the gas producing elements are removed in processing.

I also like edame. This are fresh soybeans boiled in the pods in salty water. The Japanese use them like a snack, popping the beans out of the pod and eating them like popcorn. I often make a meal out of edame when I kind find fresh ones in the farmer's market.

[curse10]

11. Edamame is the best!

Steamed, with a little bit of soy sauce (low sodium, of course) to dip in. Mmmmm.

[ochazuke]

12. Edamame

That's the original name, pronounced ay-da-ma-may. Yes, Japanese eat them as a snack, often with beer.

[shanti]

18. yes

some more edamame lovers....they are yummy and soooo addictive. i can finish off a 1 pound bag at a sitting, guilt free because they are so nutritious.

[ochazuke]

10. Fear and Lothing

I do not fear Bin Laden. He and his ilk can never cross the ocean and lay waste to our land.

Our own government is doing it instead.

Corporate rule fills me with hatred for the system I find myself "terrorized" by. THEY are the problem. Al Qaeda is a diversion. Come to think of it, Al Qaeda is revolting against the same corporate rule. In Bush's black-white view of the world, I guess that makes ME a terrorist.

My recommendation: eat no beef, buy no beef. Send a message that we are punishing the system for protecting corporate greed over public health.

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[salinen]

17. Yes, I am looking forward to

someone I love dying a slow tortuous death. The point is that I would like to see a change in the American diet FOR health reasons, and for the sake of better land management. By the way, it is rare for humans to succumb to Mad Cow Disease.

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[nothingshocksmeanymore]

20. I agree

it's called a boycott..one CAN successfully boycott beef for lobbying away the public interest.

[Malva Zebrina]

21. for all we know and will ever know it is terrorism

what can anyone believe anymore? :tinfoilhat:

[buddhamama]

22. there's only one thing to do

change what's deemed acceptable;
Acceptable threats and risks, acceptable deaths, all for the sake of profit. more people die every year due to hunger and cold than the number of persons who perished on Sept.11
every day killings/deaths we accept. yeah, some with a conscience will sympathize and may even work to change it, but, unfortunately, too many have accepted.

we've(the majority) have come to accept certain behavior too,as a "given".

we live in fear not of Osama but of change, and lack, collectively, the courage to create it.

btw, would it be in poor taste for me to be happy that both my son and i are vegetarians.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

23. Not at all in poor taste

I think you are going to be having some converts as a result of this ;-)

[Zomby Woof]

25. not at all!

I am sure you and your son taste good! :evilgrin:

I love my beef though, so this may slow me down, but it won't make me quit. I don't eat it too often as it is.

Not to be contrarian, but no diet is safe. I lived in WA when Odwalla fruit juices, which are 100% organic, had an e. coli incident, which killed a few people (I also lived there when Jack In The Box had their e. coli problem). The vegetarians where I worked drank the stuff, which they bought at Starbucks next door, and looked a little pale for a few days, lol. There were no meat/vegetarian debates there for quite some time. The USDA didn't even use an Organic designation until very recently, and hopefully, no more problems will arise with e. coli for either meats or produce. But the USDA doesn't have the regulations they even had 25 years ago.

What is it with WA state anyway? First, e. coli, now mad cow...

Fact is, the meat business hasn't improved that much since Upton Sinclair wrote "The Jungle", and it was only a matter of time before it hit our borders. "West Wing" even had an episode about it a year or so ago.

:hi: Buddhamama!

[LeahMira]

24. As long as they...

... keep cutting funds for the organizations whose job it is to watch these things, more and more things will be happening... things that we previously thought only happened in less developed nations.

Americans do eat more meat and foods with animal fats than other nations, though, so maybe it's time to cut down or stick to chicken. Tofu isn't all that bad either and it has protein.

[cosmicdot]

26. March 27, 2001: Mad Cow Disease "suspected" in Texas

is this the best some can offer: "Don't eat cow brains." ???

"And if you are especially concerned, avoid ground beef if you don't know what part of the cow it came from."

article: "Experts: Consumers Needn't Panic Over Beef"
http://start.earthlink.net/newsarticle?cat=1&aid=D7VMSHV82_story


maybe the beef industry will 'volunteer', self-regulate more specific information on the label as far as origin:

'don't ask, don't tell';
'we don't know ourselves';
'trust us: you don't want to know';
'what's life without some adventure';
'what do you think you were eating last week?';
'approved by the Manhattan Institute for mass consumption';

or use the opportunity to tie-in *'s next corporate issue:
'support *'s medical liability reform ASAP'

First 100 days:

"After intense lobbying by the chemical, beef, and poultry industries, the Environmental Protection Agency put a hold on a report showing that consumption of animal fat and dairy products containing traces of dioxin can cause cancer in humans."

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0117/ridgeway6.php

- Turns back the clock on safety standards that protect families from potentially life-threatening contamination such as listeria and food poisoning. Orders meat safety regulations put on hold within hours of taking office.

- Repealed ergonomic regulations to protect workers from repetitive stress injuries (originally proposed by Bush I Labor Secretary, Liddy Dole)

- Revokes a Clinton administration rule that would have reduced the acceptable level of arsenic in drinking water, arguing the evidence was not conclusive enough to justify the high cost to states, municipalities and industry of complying with the proposal.

- Mad Cow Disease "suspected" in Texas. 3/27/2001

Texas cattle to be tested for mad cow disease
March 23, 2001
Web posted at: 4:04 PM EST (2104 GMT)


AUSTIN, Texas (CNN) -- Animal health officials in Texas plan to put to death 22 German-imported cows to test them for signs of bovine spongiform encelphalopathy (BSE), commonly called mad cow disease.

The animals are among 29 that were imported legally into Texas between February 1996 and September 1997, said Carla Everett, a spokeswoman for the Texas Animal Health Commission. She said four of those have already been destroyed and tested, with negative results for BSE, and three others died of causes not related to BSE.

The 22 remaining are to be euthanized some time this spring, she said. http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/03/23/texas.cows/index.html

- Announced plans to stop salmonella testing on the beef served to children in the nation's schools after lobbying by the meat industry. Officials say that "zero Samonella policy" is not "scientifically justified". Says they will "irradiate" the meat instead. 4/4/2001
After public outcry, White House backs off on plan to stop salmonella testing. 4/5/2001


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