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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:03 PM
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Limbaugh lost his lawsuit! WooHoo!
I hope this hasn't been posted yet. I just caught it on AOL. Limbaugh lost the fight to keep his medical records sealed!

ALL TOGETHER NOW....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWE Poor baby!
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:



<snip>
Judge Opens Limbaugh's Medical Records
Prosecutors Seek Evidence of Possible 'Doctor Shopping'
By JILL BARTON, AP

(Dec. 23) -- Prosecutors can examine Rush Limbaugh's medical records to determine whether he should be charged with ''doctor shopping'' for prescription painkillers, a judge ruled Tuesday.


Limbaugh's lawyers argued the seizure of his medical records violated his privacy.

Palm Beach Circuit Judge Jeffrey A. Winikoff denied the conservative commentator's request to keep the records sealed.

Limbaugh's attorneys had argued that the seizure of the records from doctors in Florida and California violated the radio host's privacy. Investigators had obtained the records last month after discovering that Limbaugh received more than 2,000 painkillers, prescribed by four doctors, at a pharmacy near his $24 million Palm Beach mansion.

Doctor shopping refers to looking for a doctor willing to prescribe drugs illegally, or getting prescriptions for a single drug from more than one doctor at the same time.



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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:05 PM
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1. damned liberal media! it's all their fault, no it's clinton's fault
no, it's clinton's penis fault!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:06 PM
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2. HAHA! Take that you fat fuck!
:evilgrin:

Whassa matter? Your lawyers need some meth?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #2
15. hehe...
if anyone deserves the wrath of we dems it's that asshole! He has spent so many years spewing his hatered of us that this is just SOOOOO damn SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET! I hope he rots in hell or at least in some prison where he belongs. :grr:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #2
29. please
enough with the fat insults. I've never detested Rush because of his weight and I have great sympathy for people with weight problems. There is plenty enough to despise him for than to resort to attacks on his weight.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:41 PM
Response to Reply #29
79. There's a method to the madness
Rush gets on a idea and never lets go, so I'll keep calling him fat, even if he went down to 2% body fat I'd still call him porky.

On another note, I think that's the first post from Skittles without a single cap.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:07 PM
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3. Its anybody's fault but his
I'm so confused. I thought conservatives were the honest and fair humans. I thought they took responsibility for their actions. Have I been DUPED?
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #3
17. Yes. You've Been Duped
If you believed a single thing they have ever said, you've been duped.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, Boss. But you are the Dupee.
The Professor
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:07 PM
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4. I'm sure we'll get a visit
from the knuckle dragging supporters of that asshole.
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Isome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #4
26. It didn't take long for your prediction to come true...
It was if they were waiting for your cue!
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:09 PM
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5. Jeb's waiting in the wings to help him....
or the FL supreme court. :eyes:

But we let's celebrate for now! :bounce:
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E Pluribus Unum Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #5
13. So you want to celebrate?
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 12:37 PM by E Pluribus Unum
This is a perfect example of how low Dems are right now.
Dems are so hungry for any kind of political victory that we are celebrating about medical records being released. How sad.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. You're kidding, right?
That man has become a multi-millionaire by spewing his hatefulness toward the democrats. He spent 8 damn years on President Clinton and I'll be damned if I don't find immense PLEASURE in seeing his ass go DOWN! He belongs in prison and HOPEFULLY this is the first step to him being sent there.
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E Pluribus Unum Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. I have been reading posts for quite a while and been posting
for a short while. One of the oddest things to me is how the slightest misstep or irregularity on the right is portrayed on this board as a huge scandal or "this is going to bring them down"
type of rhetoric. If you think he is going to jail over this then
your hatred is clouding your judgement. Wait and see.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #23
30. Hey E P U
tell us in your own words why he will not go to jail. I know he won't either but I want to hear your reasons.
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E Pluribus Unum Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. Like I posted in another thread you have to get caught in
posession with the drugs or buy or sell drugs from a law
enforcement officer to be charged. Have you ever heard of someone
being arrested for drugs on the say so of someone else? I never have.
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #33
47. So, tell me, why is Tommy Chong in prison again?
Last I heard he was sent down for pipes that had never been used...

Also, have you ever heard of "Conspiracy to..." Yep, if there is evidence that you planned to sell or buy drugs illegally, you don't actually have to have any drugs...

On top of that, there is a law in Florida that criminalises "Doctor Shopping". It even carries a 5 year sentence. No drugs needed, just proof that you obtained multiple prescriptions from multiple doctors for the same complaint.

I wonder why Rush is so worried about the prosecutor getting to see his medical records?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #33
50. Have you been asleep since the '70's?
There are numerious errors in what you seem to think about the drug war.

If you have a sufficient quantity of drugs, you get charged with possession with intent to traffick, whether or not they actually catch you selling them. This sort of law is on the books in 50 states. In Florida, Rush is looking at 25 years for intent to distribute, just due to the amount of drugs he was caught with. (there was a link in another 'Rush' thread to the statute...look it up if you disbelieve it).

If you get caught with both drugs and a gun (of any kind) in your home, add on at LEAST 10+ years to your sentence.

If you get caught with drugs in your car, they usually take your car. If they find them in your place of business, they can theoretically seize the business, EVEN IF IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS, AND THE BUSINESS DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

People do, in fact, get caught for drugs on the say so of someone else nowdays. People even get charged for drug crimes when there weren't any actual drugs involved!

Read up on the Omnibus Drug act, and all the other horrors of the drug war for an eye opener, if you are seriously under the impression that I'm wrong about all this.

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E Pluribus Unum Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #50
52. He was not caught with any drugs! Please guide me to a
credible news report where he was caught with drugs in his posession.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #52
60. Doesn't matter if he had them in possession or not...
If records show that he was prescribed massive amounts of oxycontin from different doctors and that pharmacy records show that those prescriptions were in fact filled, then he is guilting of doctor shopping to support a drug habit and he may also be guilty of laundering money for the purpose of supporting his drug habit.

The fact that he went to rehab is already an ad hoc admission that he did possess these substances. He didn't go into rehab for drugs magically appearing in his system.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #33
56. surely you have GOT to be kidding
here in Dallas there were dozens of people in jail for FAKE DRUGS. *ANYTHING* can happen if you are not a RICH WHITE MALE REPUBLICAN.
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E Pluribus Unum Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #56
59. Fake drugs? Please explain what a fake drug is.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #59
66. Baggies of powdered sugar or oregano, small squares of plain white paper
People get arrested for 'intent to distribute' if they are caught trying to sell 'bunk' drugs -- even if there aren't any actual drugs.

Also, you can get busted for buying drugs, or INTENDING to buy drugs from an undercover cop -- even if he doesn't actually have any drugs.

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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:51 AM
Response to Reply #59
99. Perhaps the kinds of drugs that the illustrious
and noteworthy 'undercover investigator', Mr. Coleman used in his prosecution of the 'drug traffickers' in Tulia, Texas?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #33
73. Doctor shopping, dude. Its a crime. There's paperwork to prove it
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #33
82. umm - ever heard of black, poor, or other minority persons?
Go to any prision and ask that question, and I'm sure you'll get an earfull.

But don't believe me or them - go look at the average arrest report.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:30 AM
Response to Reply #33
89. No you don't have to be caught in possession to be arrested. Why
do you think they are going after records? Money laundering
to buy dope-financial records are sought. Doctor shopping-
medical records are sought. EVERYONE suspected of this faces
this, unless its your boy here. Of course, we all KNOW there
is equal justice under the law, including that for fat, white,
conservative, chickenhawk rednecks like Rush. Right?
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #13
39. Agree Completely
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 02:44 PM by RobinA
Release of personal information is something that liberals should be against. It doesn't matter WHOSE personal information, or the weight of that individual. This is the slippery slope argument I keep unsuccessfully trying to make to my winger friends. It doesn't MATTER whether YOU are doing nothing wrong, if the government can lock up individuals they don't like without charges or a lawyer, they can lock up YOU.

I now see that so-called liberals are just as suseptible to the "infringe upon everybody's rights except mine" thinking as the right is.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #39
53. Where were you and the other...
...'privacy' advocates when the Republicans were DEMANDING that Clinton and other Democrats release ALL of their medical records? I don't understand this double-standard where it's okay to make these kinds of demands on some and not others.

- And please don't use the excuse that we need to know everything about the medical history of a president. You won't find Bush* releasing his records any time soon.

- It's telling that you trash 'liberals' for applauding equal justice under the law...but don't have much to say when dolts like Limbaugh complain that liberals are 'weak' and stupid for wanting to protect everyone's right to privacy...not just HIS.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #53
75. I Don't Understand
your point. Where was I when the Repubs were demanding that Clinton et al. release their records? I was saying that Clinton's medical records were nobody's business. My point is it's NEVER OK to make these kinds of demands. I've never, at any time, said anything else.

I don't have much to say when Limbaugh says liberals are "weak" for wanting to protect privacy? I must have me confused with someone else. I have never said anything OTHER than that EVERYBODY'S privacy should be protected or nobody's privacy is safe. That's my position and it has never changed or been otehrwise.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #39
54. aren't those records relevant to the doctor-shopping charge?
:shrug:

and it's not like they are being released to the public, just to the courts to determine if the charge is true...
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #54
76. I Don't Care
if his records are relevant to doctor-shopping. Doctor shopping is a bogus "crime" if it is a crime, and shouldn't justify government getting its mitts on an individual's medical records.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:36 AM
Response to Reply #76
91. Bogus crime? Seeking illegal prescriptions to buy narcotics isn't criminal
and dangerous? What the hell? If someone had had half
an ounce of integrity, Elvis would still be alive. Of
course its legitimate. Bogus is rush's whining.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:33 AM
Response to Reply #39
90. excuse me. you don't have a right to privacy when you are suspected of
felonies. Don't like the law? work to change it but don't
ask for immunity for rush when no one else has it. I would
support injustice for poor people before you worry about
justice for Roy Black's little boy. If he didn't have a
ton of bucks and friends in right wing places he would be in
the can. Where he belongs. By his own declaration.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 08:10 PM
Response to Reply #13
72. Didn't Bushco
make it so anyone who isn't a rich Republican hatemonger can have his medical records released to employers and potential employers? I'm sure Rush thought that was just a fine idea. If it was Carville or Randi Rhodes being investigated, he'd be all for popping out those records ASAP.
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NMLobo Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #13
84. It's not political
His medical records are not being released, they are just being examined by the "authorities". Since when do you have a right to privacy when you've been charged with(or suspected of) committing a crime? Example: The black clad jack booted Police bash in the door of a "suspected" drug dealer at 5:00 in the morning. Is that political? Are they violating the "dealer's" privacy? You tell me what the difference is?

Right or wrong "doctor shopping" is a crime in FL. I would think part of investigating the "crime" involves looking at the suspect's medical records.

Also, why was Rush making "blackmail" payments to his housekeeper? Up to 40 payments of just under $10,000.00!!!??? My calculator says that's approximately $400,000.00!!. WTF!!!

How can you "blackmail" someone who hasn't done anything wrong, as RUSH and his attorneys claim??

I've got questions. You got answers?????????????

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:28 AM
Response to Reply #13
88. Look, Pluribus. No one has the right to hide their medical records if they
are evidence of a crime. For you or anyone else to defend
that, well ... heh-heh-heh. That's the way the law works.

Fatso said today that 'since democrats can't defeat him in
the arena of ideas, they rely on this,' and he said that
'hey! we haven't seen Bill Clinton's records!"

Bill Clinton isn't a coke head.

Then, in closing, Rush said, "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!"
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:12 PM
Response to Original message
6. Like Dittoheads love to say...
If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about. Right?

I know the logic is flawed, to say the least.

But I have to admit it is rather enjoyable watching this mans past words come back to haunt him.

What a fraud.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:12 PM
Response to Original message
7. I would pay to see him in jail. n/t
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Darn liberal law enforcement!
I just heard his lawyer on ABC radio news. He was saying Rush feared his opponents of using this agianst him and now he's being proven right.

Thats a big ole' pile of texas road apples!

Rush, dont do the crime if you cant do the time!

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Using facts against him. Imagine that.
This investigation would never happen in the kind of America limbaugh dreams about.
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. Imagine, if you can
This story of drug use, treatment, and medical records, if the defendent were not Rush. What if it was Al Franken? Can you imagine the RW talk radio hosts take on it, if it was Al???? Rush would be leading the pack, calling for long prison term, open medical records, using it as an example of "Liberals".

I love seeing Rush get his comeuppance. Sorry, I know I should be loving, kind and forgiving, but this man deserves what he is getting.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. He'd be a threat to democracy!
/Bill O'Reilly
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #12
40. It's Not That
you should be loving and forgiving, it's that people shouldn't be hypocrites. If you think all prescription drug abusers should go straight to jail, fine. If you think only blabber-mouth right-wing radio hosts who abuse prescription drugs should go to jail, you are no different than those right-wingers.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #40
69. I think it has more to do with living by your own words...

"Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up."

Those are Rush Limbaugh's own words. I feel no sympathy for this man who stood in front of a microphone and made himself out to be this paragon of virtue while advocating harsh sentences for drug-offenders and likely influenced public opinion to support harsh sentencing for drug offenders. He now has to live by what the very kinds of laws he supported and is whining about it.

He gets no sympathy from me.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #69
77. Sympathy Isn't the Point
We don't run this country on sympathy. It's the principle of the thing. If they can go after his medical records, I don't care if he's Attila the Freakin' Hun, they can go after yours. Civil liberties are about laws, and they don't (or shouldn't)depend on how much you, I, or anybody else likes the individual in question.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #77
80. They already can! In part thanks to the Patriot Act which Rush supported.
Right or wrong it's legal to present his medical records in part because of laws of he adamantly stood up in front of a microphone and supported. And now he has the unmitigated gall to claim that it's unfair when the very laws he supported are being used to investigate him for possible crimes related to his drug addiction?

When it comes down to it, I ain't jumping to the defense of someone who so blindly advocated the weakening of civil liberties falling on a sword that he himself helped sharpen to use against people like me.

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:39 AM
Response to Reply #40
92. No. I believe that hypocrites making tons of dough shooting off their
mouth all the while hanging over their toilet and heaving
their guts out because they're addicted to narcotics should
go to jail. It would be a learning experience for Rush, who
has never had a decent thought about anything or anyone in
his entire self-absorbed, cretinous, wretched life.

You live by the sword, don't whine if you die by it.
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E Pluribus Unum Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. don't hold your breath
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
16. Hey "E"
Keep asking yourself...."what would I say if Bill Clinton did the same thing as Rush did"
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E Pluribus Unum Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #16
32. I would say the same thing.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #32
44. ....
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #10
31. Rush...is that you lurking again? LOL
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #31
64. Maybe
Maybe he can get a cell with Michale Jackson

Wouldn't they make a cute couple
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LatteLib Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:33 PM
Response to Original message
11. Thanks for posting
I have been wondering if there was any news yet.
I tried to listen to his radio show and he was so boring I had to turn it off.
Is he on methadone now?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:02 PM
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fineyounglib Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:07 PM
Response to Original message
20. We can not cheer a loss of freedom
Hey, you can not cheer for someone (anyone) even Rush.
Is forced to open their private files.
What happens when someone has AIDS and it becomes public?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. When Rush realizes that the policies he's been pushing for years.....
...Especially those in the War on Drugs, are WRONG, and not only admits it, but rallies his supporters against it, then he'll get some sympathy from me.

And not a moment before.
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. that freedom was lost a long time ago.
Rush is involved in an ongoing drug investigation. His medical records could show relevant information regarding any illegal activities on his part. This is all a part of the war on terror...oops, I mean the war on drugs...which is where the erosion of our civil liberties really began. Maybe if a few of the RW pundits have to live in the real world, they will change their tunes.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. please give me a break.
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 01:24 PM by deseo
This is not a random access of someone's medical records, this is an ongoing criminal investigation.

If you think *anyone's* records are off limits when law enforcement is in clear posession of probable cause, you need a legal refresher.

The fact he even had time to seek an injunction proves he's getting special treatment.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #20
38. it's not a loss of freedom
medical records are subpoenaed for cases every day

it's part of the evidence to show that Rush was doctor-shopping and getting multiple prescriptions from multiple doctors

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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #20
51. It is not about releasing them to the public. To the prosecution.
...
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #20
55. what freedom has he lost? Those records are for the court only
in order to determine if the charge is true...

please tell me one freedom that Rush has lost. The shit-head hasn't even been arrested!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #20
83. Sorry to burst your bubble, but here in Nevada, anyone's medical records
concerning HIV/AIDS has to be reported to the State. It's the law. In Hawaii, they have complete medical privacy, even for HIV/AIDS.

Pigboy is getting his commupance BECAUSE he advocates much harsher penalties for EVERYONE ELSE - has for YEARS!

Can you spell HYPOCRITE?!

Kharma is a bitch, isn't it?

I'm STILL for privacy rights. Pigboy has laughed at the suggestion that there is anything like privacy rights.

I'm STILL for compassion. Pigboy has ranted and raved for YEARS to "lock 'em all up and throw away the key" on even the SLIGHTEST suspicion - not proof - just someone's suspicion of being guilty - and so far as evidence he's only concerned that most black persons, and others of "those people" meet his criterion for such suspicion.

Just like bunkerboy's "shoot ferst because I say so" lack of proof to "rid the world of evildoers" just because he believes in a perveted version of the tooth fairy!

And I'll be a damned fool if I DIDN'T enjoy the site of his just rewards for getting BETTER than he's advocated for others, thank you very much.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:43 AM
Response to Reply #20
93. If my pilot was using drugs and in rush's predicament, investigate his ass
This isn't about an action that has no consequences. Imagine
that idiot face was your pilot, your surgeon, your child's
bus driver. What then? Ignore his actions? Give him a pass
because you don't like the laws?

Rush and his ilk made the patriot act possible. I had to sign
a paper allowing them to rifle my records at my doctors, dentist
and pharmacy. The alternative? I would not be served.

That is what Rush hoped for and now that he has it, he has
no right to bitch and whine and no one should save him from
the fulfilment of the AmeriKa that he so fervently worked to
being to fruition.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:26 PM
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25. You are in trouble Rush.
Don't worry prison is not that bad.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:35 PM
Response to Original message
27. I don't think I would agree with someone's medical records
being released but I wonder how Rush feels now that his dirty laundry is being aired in public? All those times he's made shots at people in the news, now his pill popping is news.

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Isome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #27
41. Why cat_girl?
He's using the excuse that he had back surgery and was in pain. That makes his medical records fair game? His attorney knows that. If he's not lying, it can only work in his favor. Why would you be against that?

If someone is charged with reckless driving and uses the defense that he had a siezure while driving, his medical records have to be made available to the state. The same holds true for Rush because he's using the defense of being in pain after surgery.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #41
104. Yeah, did Rush ever hear of "Pain Management?" Why wasn't
he in one of those programs? Because he is a junkie, that's why.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:36 PM
Response to Original message
28. AW
:nopity:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:11 PM
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34. Good! Fuck that lying piece of shit
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:13 PM
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35. No sympathy for Limbaugh at all, but have a problem
with the medical records. This cannot be the first time this has happened - we just don't know about it. How many other people have had their medical records opened up and haven't had the ability to fight back like rush does? Bet there are thousands.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #35
42. Many
I have worked at a law firm involved in defending employment lawsuits. They always try to use people's medical records against them. Been to any therapy? You are obviously a nutcase who cannot get along with anybody and who was fired for being a total lunatic.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:31 PM
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36. didn't Pigboy tell us "he had back 'surgery' which led to his addiction"?
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 02:47 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
he did say he had "surgery" back when this story first broke....but,today i heard Roy Black his lawyer, claim that "rush opted out of having back surgery and chose to take the pain pills to treat his back problem instead"

now i know the real reason pigboy is against his records being made public...his lie

does anyone remember Rush saying "he had had back surgery"?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #36
46. He called it "failed back surgery".. what he meant was...
He FAILED to HAVE the surgery, because he preferred the BUZZZZZZ from the drugs ...

or maybe the doctors knew he was faking the affliction and they FAILED to offer him surgery for a bogus condition.. They probably gave him a scrip to get rid of him:)

Booo Hooooo Rush.. and Hey!.. "Get over it".. "Move On".. Quit whining".. ahahahahahahahaha
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #36
71. Back Surgery, Ear Surgery, whatever lie it takes to get his illegal drugs!
the pig
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:46 AM
Response to Reply #36
95. fake back pain. He has appeared in golf tournaments since. I am sure
they are collecting the tapes and interviews now. I
don't feel he has a leg to stand on about back pain.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:35 PM
Response to Original message
37. It's just too bad that.........
........ all the legal fees are just chump change to this Pimple-Butt.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:54 PM
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43. Who Exploits Medical Records
Let me go with the others who are glad to see Rush's file opened as this is part of an on-going criminal investigation, and he still hasn't explained the need to purchase such quanitities of a controlled substance and using his maid to get more on the black market.

As above, our system is so flawed and unequal, I'm certain Roy Black will find a silver bullet and Rush will never spend a moment worrying about new anal cysts. My wish is that he is so debunked and exposed in this process that his credibility as a voice in this nation's political dynamic is minimalized.

The real problem of releasing medical records publicly is one that a Conservative doesn't want to deal with...since other than law enforcement (which has to obtain a court order to investigate an individual and show cause) the only other people who are interested in one's medical history are Insurance companies. Given the opportunities these vultures would love to get any and all health related material on those they cover in their never-ending process to control the health-care system to their profit and benefit. Many states have laws against any insurance company either curtailing or reducing coverage to someone with a "pre-existing" condition, but having the chance to rifle through someone's medical records and doctor's notes could turn "pre-existing" into a different classification and the patient, as usual, is screwed.

This is the side of confidentiality that has to be reviewed and protected. As others have said, if Rush hasn't committed a felony and truly has had problems finding a doctor to treat his back pain (4 different ones in one year), then his records will be his vindication...let them speak.
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Bush_Unemployed_04 Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:57 PM
Response to Original message
45. I wonder if he'll continue his show from his cell... LOL
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 03:54 PM
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48. Hip Hip Hooray! Deserves everything he gets.
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Butterflies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 04:04 PM
Response to Original message
49. A nice slap of karma
for the big fat idiot! :kick:
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 05:28 PM
Response to Original message
57. HA HA HA HA HA HA
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 05:29 PM by AlFrankenFan
HA HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA
HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!



Oh his tears are so yummy and sweet!
Sorry, been meaning to do that for a while :evilgrin:
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 05:47 PM
Response to Original message
58. Ya Hooooo! rePiglican pig man loses one! He he he he
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:43 PM
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61. He is So BUSTED
Not only will they find he has been doctor shopping

They will see pictures of the Tatoo on his back

"George Michale was here"
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:44 PM
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62. Bawhahaha!!! Mega-Jail Cell Lardass!!!!!! eom
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #62
81. Gives new meaning too "In a Fat Boy"
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:45 PM
Response to Original message
63. What if
It shows he has AIDs from his gay relationships.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #63
65. Then that information should be private....
Having HIV is not a criminal offense and I would not agree with that information being released regardless of the fact that something like that would expose his utter contemptible hypocrisy.

The records were seized to investigate alleged criminal activity. Only information that relevant to the investigation of his alleged doctor shopping should be revealed in a court of law.

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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #65
70. Well, Rush did say condoms dont work.
I guess he should have been more safe.

Rush, if its wet and its not yours, dont touch it!:hurts:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:48 AM
Response to Reply #63
96. It would be irrelevant to the investigation and not revealed unless a
snitch sold it to the Enquirer. They hate him.
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:54 PM
Response to Original message
67. Jail for PigBoy ! No rehab like Noelle Crack-Smoking Bush !
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:55 PM
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68. Let The Good Times Roll, Baby
between boil ass's conviction being on the news and the constant terra alerts, president dipsh*t's ratings are going to plummit
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BackDoorMan Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #68
74. A Bush pardon? For a true "American treasure" honorary member of
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 09:52 PM by BackDoorMan
Congress, as well as Bush' the republicans and the American people's true friend and patriot...and all around lying, druggy, elitist, racist, greedy pile of dog shit?

Do we want to lose this man who simply made a mistake? A pigman who fights everyday for the republican, corporate, fascist way of life on the air. Let's show compassion America and pardon Rush?

I can see the republican owned corporate media eating this bullshit up and trying to shove it down our throats.
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LOL Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:34 PM
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78. It's the Democrats fault
I heard it from Limburger. :nopity:
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cowpie Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #78
85. Stop the madness
I'm sorry, as much as I dislike the guy I cannot celebrate another man's misfortune.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:49 AM
Response to Reply #85
97. Then find another thread. We count the fall of hypocrites as manna from
heaven. :)
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #97
101. With the Attitudes
on this thread from so-called liberals, the right-wing has NOTHING to worry about.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:04 AM
Response to Reply #85
100. No Problem ...
I'll celebrate for us both, so you needn't worry.:nopity:
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LOL Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 10:53 AM
Response to Reply #85
102. I'm in total agreement
I would like to see him have a full recovery from his drug addiction...as for his lying hypocracy's I will continue to think he's a jerk...yet, as for any drug charges he's innocent until proven guilty...if guilty, he deserves no less than he has preached and wished upon others...if that ends him up in jail he'll probably revert back to drugs which would be unfortunate for him but of little concern to the rest of the world...he'd quickly become old news...and life goes on.
Limburger's ego::puffpiece:
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:43 AM
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86. Gosh, I hope he goes down with this
I listened to the last hour of his radio show today, and I really don't see how anyone can stand it. What a pompous ass, going on about grown children continuing to live with their parents when he doesn't even have any kids. Not to mention the usual self-aggrandisement. Ugh! And during the breaks they played all these fake commercials making fun of liberals, one of which had some Democratic primary candidates as characters in Gone with the Wind. I didn't catch what the Sharpton character said, but the Moseley-Braun lines were extremely racist and offensive. They had her in the Prissy role. I couldn't believe it.
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:49 AM
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87. ..even some conservatives on talk radio I heard last night are getting
ready to bail on this miserable scumbag.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:56 AM
Response to Reply #87
98. Too HOT, as such, the Bushites will let his ass burn
no rescueing the Piglet from the quicksand.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:44 AM
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94. Heres an idea
I dont know whos got this case , but we have to start a campaign of emails and letters calling for an example to be set. This guy is making a mockery of the justice system if he doesnt get punished like any other junkie who gets busted with huge amounts of narcotics.

We should flood them with reasons why he should be punished .
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LOL Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 11:36 AM
Response to Original message
103. Conservatives don't seem to actively support Rush
nearly as much as they used to...I used to spend some time on a site that really got the Rush threads going back when this all first started...a quick browse of it < http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=24781 > indicates that it's relatively quiet these days on this one. Yep Rush will be toast...dry toast...guilty or not, his credibility:puke: is shot and leaking out the holes. Something that should have been obvious all along but a Conservative view on Limburger brings to mind a quote from Winston Churchill:
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened."
:nuke:
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:01 PM
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105. Sink Bitch Sink!!!!!!!
WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!


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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:20 PM
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106. And when they want YOUR medical records will you CHEER?
I agree with Rush on this one. Your medical records should be inviolate. Even Rush's.

I think this is an abomination and i hope it inspires Rush to side with civil libertarians on issues of privacy.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:27 PM
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107. Conservatives continue to insist there is no 'right' to privacy...
...and they won't relent even though we've been arguing this point for years.

- But the fact is the Patriot Act(s) give the government the 'right' to look at any of your records...medical or otherwise. They don't need a search warrant or even probable cause.

- Rush has become a victim of his own propaganda. It's too bad our nation has come to this...but he and others of his ilk should have known the end result of their fascist rhetoric.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #106
108. You live in a fantasy.
Your medical records are not remotely private. Private companies have databases that employers can use to check you out before offering you a job.

HIPPA is certainly strengthening medical privacy, but a lot of people seem to think that medical records are sacrosanct, sorta like attorney-client privilege, but they are not. People think they can tell their doctors anything and it is protected information. It is not.

This is a criminal investigation. I expect those seeking the records to follow the laws and procedures designed to protect unnecessary and unwarranted intrusion. But since Rush is claiming certain things, he has made his medical records material. There is no "right" to hide them at this point IMHO.
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