well well.... Wolfie just "Broke" the "WH MISLEAD THE PEOPLE" story

[matcom]

ending his segment as, "Stay Tuned as this story DEVELOPS".

well well.

HOW F*CKING LONG HAVE WE (here at DU) been SCREAMING LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR!

WE had it right MONTHS AGO!
WE knew the LIES B*SH was spewing!

Note to all Lurkers/Newbies here: YOU WILL NEVER, NEVER I TELL YOU, FIND A MORE INTELLIGENT/WELL READ/WELL RESEARCHED GROUP OF PEOPLE THAN THE GOOD FOLKS OF DU!

PERIOD.

end of story.

:puke:

[Jacobin]

1. Say it ain't so, Joe!!!

Ya mean Mr. Sock in de Pants told a fib?
Don't ya think maybe he was just......misunderstood?

Yeah, that's the ticket....the liberal media just twisted what he said in the State of the Union Speech and they MISUNDERSTOOD him!!!

Whew, had me worried there for a minute.

Now I can go back to "Survivor"

[MUAD_DIB]

2. We should all thank Wolfie

by visiting his CNN pole.

[calimary]

17. ABSOLUTELY! Sorry I'm yelling, but -

It is URGENT, URGENT, URGENT, to respond about this. Ol' Wolfie needs to know that he's striking a chord with a LOT of people to whom this is a huge issue. If they don't hear anything from out here in viewer-land, they won't think there's anything to it, and worse, they'll presume America doesn't care. That's what's being repeated everywhere, that this is no big deal, and we ALL know differently!!!

He needs positive reinforcement on this!

Thanks!

[calimary]

21. Here's the CNN link:

404-827-0234
404-827-1700
Link for feedback: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/

Let Wolfie know he's FINALLY doing the right thing! Otherwise he'll assume it's true that nobody cares, and he'll let it fizzle. PLEASE, guys! LET'S ROLL!!!

[blondeatlast]

31. I really want to read the story, link, please (story, not poll)

???

[MidwestTransplant]

33. Instead of blind praise for CNN in their feedback,

we should play moderates who are stunned to learn about this news.

[LEW]

3. You are so right

Matcom - So glad I found DU - Now when people start discussing B*sh and war, I am right in there with facts they cannot dispute. And......I am hearing more and more anti-war, anti-bush discussions......

[xchrom]

4. it's really a pisser isn't it?

it's not like the evidence wasn't/isn't there for people to read/learn. they won't. and you hear the media pass on lies and you can't believe your ears.
ah well.

[patdem]

5. Nor more bare fannies than matcom can produce.

friendly like! NEVER without taste...if you like fannies! :bounce: ...I aint got a fanny to my name (oops...okay just one..just like my opinion) ...though I did research for 'friendly fannies'....so many x rated I could not belive!

[JNelson6563]

6. But they needed the war first

for the most excellent ratings! Now that that's over (or at least the parts that keep the Freepers etc. glued to the set) let's tell 'em about the lies. War money's in the bank, time to diversify. Scandal is a low risk, high return investment and this one's so damn easy...... ;-)

Julie

[Beetwasher]

7. Is DU ahead of the fucking curve by a light year or what?

Fer fucks sake, this is OLD news here...Glad to see some numbnuts have been paying attention...Way to go wolfie, looks like maybe you won't have to wipe your chin off tonight...

[Lex]

8. They *impeach* for LIES, right?

It's not that Sadam isn't a bad man, it's that Bush LIED about the evidence to go to war.

It's not that Sadam gassed his own people, it's that Bush LIED about the evidence to go to war.

It's not that the world is a better place without Sadam, it's that Bush LIED about the evidence to go to war.

What will tell the chilllllldren? Now that the Resident has LIEEEED?

[MUAD_DIB]

Article II, Section 4

"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."

Now to quote the repugs during the Clinton Impeachment trial...

"It's not about the sex, it's about the lying!"

Impeach * for lies? Sure!

Impeach * for attacking another soverign nation? Definatley!

Impeach * for getting soldiers/citizens killed for oil? Without hesitation!


On edit: I only posted this once. Anybody else getting doubles?

[MUAD_DIB]

14. Article II, Section 4

"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."

Now to quote the repugs during the Clinton Impeachment trial...

"It's not about the sex, it's about the lying!"

Impeach * for lies? Sure!

Impeach * for attacking another soverign nation? Definatley!

Impeach * for getting soldiers/citizens killed for oil? Without hesitation!

[hedda_foil]

44. Hmmmmm....

Treason? Check (multigenerational treason box also checked)
Bribery? Double check (Are you kidding? Bribery is the family bidness!)
Other high crimes and misdemeanors? Triple check (See MUAD_DIB's list for starters.)

[HootieMcBoob]

9. Tell me about it

A few minutes ago I checked my email for a letter I wrote to my whole family about the sotu lies because I wanted to make sure -- and sure enough I gave 'em an earful about the "forged and plagerized" evidence.

I sent that email out on MARCH 17th!!!!!

Holy Freakin' Hell!!!

[prolesunited]

10. Reaction of the American people: Yawn

At least he didn't lie about anything important, you know, like getting a blow job. :eyes:

I really hope the truth is coming to light in the minds of the sleep-walking public, but I thought that about 9-11, too.

[The Blue Flower]

11. All you DU researchers

Time to bombard Congress with what you know--you know, the GOOD stuff. They'll need the info for the mushrooming hearings.

[Lex]

12. Bush KNEW it was a lie before SOTU according to this:

An intelligence consultant who was present at two White House briefings where the uranium report was discussed confirmed that the President was told the intelligence was questionable and that his national security advisors urged him not to include the claim in his State of the Union address.
"The report had already been discredited," said Terrance J. Wilkinson, a CIA advisor present at two White House briefings. "This point was clearly made when the President was in the room during at least two of the briefings."
Bush's response was anger, Wilkinson said.
"He said that if the current operatives working for the CIA couldn't prove the story was true, then the agency had better find some who could," Wilkinson said. "He said he knew the story was true and so would the world after American troops secured the country."

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_2518.shtml

[hedda_foil]

13. Wow, Lex! An NAMED intelligence who was in the room when * was TOLD!!

This is huge. Huger than huge, actually. Has Wilkinson been quoted anywhere else yet? He comes across as the John Dean-style smoking gun to me.

[ewagner]

24. Wilkerson

On another thread, a lot of DUers were trying to find information about this guy.

Anybody had any lick?

Is there any chance this story was fabricated?

If this is true, it needs to be blasted as headlines on every news network and shouted from every roof top.


p.s. I think this should be my 100th post!:bounce:

[Lex]

29. Hope it wasn't

fabricated! Yikes.

But then again, so much stuff was made up out of thin air about Clinton, who knows?

[9215]

37. "Anybody had any lick?".......????

Sorry ice cream, or anything else one would "lick" is off the menu for now. :evilgrin: :bounce: :bounce:

Congrates on your #100 post

[Dudley_DUright]

15. Good info Lex

This article deserves its own thread (if it does not already have one). :thumbsup:

[Lex]

22. I went ahead and gave it a thread of it's own.

We'll see if it all pans out. I hope so.

[julka]

23. I was about to start one, but googled first

found NO reference to either a Terrance J. or Terrence J. Wilkinson+CIA.

nothing.

not even that article

what is capitol hill blue?

no references in the article.

I can't believe that, if true, this hasn't gotten any media play.

wait a minute......what am I, cracked?

[julka]

25. I like what I see of the site....talks about my old post office......

in Arlington Va., among other things

they have a reader rant section.

here's one on the above story, from somebody who seems to know a least a little about nukes

I had wondered if President Bush might have been thinking along these lines. Assuming that the quotes are accurate, it's still disturbing to have that suspicion confirmed.

There was another problem with the whole idea that Iraq had a revived nuclear program: it wasn't feasible. There are only a few ways of enriching uranium or breeding plutonium - without which you can't make a bomb - and all of those ways are extremely expensive, take technical skill, and can be idenftied fairly easily from aerial recon.
You can't hide a breeder reactor, you can't hide thousands of centrifuges, you can't hide a gaseous diffusion plant. You can't hide a calutron effort if anyone checks for it, and that method, the one they were working on back in 1990, is hideously expsnive.

In the 90s, Iraq was stony broke. They no longer had a lot of money to buy high-quality foreign equipment, and they certainly couldn't make the stuff themselves: I don't think the Iraqis are capable of making a saleable cuckoo clock. It's a backward country.

When the Administration asked people from the national labs (Los Alamos etc) they reportedly said there was no chance of a live program, one that was actually making enriched uranium or plutonium. Their objections were ignored.

Sheesh, Bush must have actually _believed_ this crap. I kept looking for the hidden reason, since the public claims were technically impossible, but there was none, at least not on his part.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=22;t=000700;p=3

[blondeatlast]

32. Dead link. I need links to the story, please . . .

nm

[julka]

36. story link:

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_2518.shtml

that dead link was to their "ReaderRant" section

did you copy the whole thing, not just the blue, then paste it into the address bar? it should work

if you go to the main site, you'll find them on the left

[lanlady]

41. you're not likely to find information on Internet--

--about a CIA analyst. Even the ones who work in the more "accessible" parts of Langley (not covert ops) keep a low profile.

[DS1]

16. They're not gonna catch us. We're on a mission from God!

Elwood Blues: 1980
George W. Bush: 2003

[proud patriot]

18. I called Boxer , Feinstein and Tauscher

With the information in the Capital Hill Blue story ..
I asked for impeachment .

[Dudley_DUright]

19. Faithed based "intelligence"

Bush's response was anger, Wilkinson said.
"He said that if the current operatives working for the CIA couldn't prove the story was true, then the agency had better find some who could," Wilkinson said. "He said he knew the story was true and so would the world after American troops secured the country."


and I suppose God told Bush this story was true (via a burning Bush no doubt)? :eyes:

on edit: fixed mistake in subject line. Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[newsguyatl]

20. this article

should be emailed to all the political correspondants at the major news networks (excluding faux)

[julka]

28. couln't agree more.......BUT!!!

I could find not one thing on Wilkinson, or references to his quotes on google.

tried several different combinations.

anybody else?


this really needs sourcing beyond the original article.

[kayell]

42. I've been googling as many different spellings as I can

and nothing so far. I sure hope this guy exists. We NEED a real live credible whistleblower, RIGHT NOW! Not helpful to start rumors with no backup, CapitolBlue.

[juajen]

34. I've read articles put out by this news source,

but, am not sure of their credibility. Who knows something about this paper?

[TheBigGuy]

26. Amazing if true...Bushs arrogance...

"Bush's response was anger, Wilkinson said.
"He said that if the current operatives working for the CIA couldn't prove the story was true, then the agency had better find some who could," Wilkinson said. "He said he knew the story was true and so would the world after American troops secured the country."

Classic.

Hes given sound advice, but chooses to ignore it. W is not a very bright light.

[alfredo]

27. ABC news has the Lie as the top story

they also talked about the al qaeda lie.

[julka]

30. very first thought on reading your post.........

Duck and cover!

something's going to happen if this keeps up.

there've been many threads on this idea, and does anyone here doubt that they're incapable of LIHOP/MIHOP?

I met a woman from East Germany last year, and she said EVERYbody she knows in Europe (she says it's a LOT) thought that it wasn't either LIHOP/MIHOP, but that there was an even more insidious connection.

can't go that far, told her that, but she thought I was "dangerously naive"........needed to wake up to what a truly monstrous regime was in power. didn't argue with that part, but still can't bring myself that far around the corner.

LIHOP......sure

anything past that........need more

[blondeatlast]

35. Link at last with some lowlights:

What's clear now is that earlier intelligence reports suggesting Saddam Hussein's regime was attempting to obtain uranium from the African nation of Niger were based on false information, including forged documents.

But what's even more embarrassing to Bush administration officials is that the Central Intelligence Agency and the State Department had themselves earlier concluded the Niger uranium reports were almost certainly not true.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/wolf.blitzer.reports/

[samsingh]

38. you are so right Matcom

.

[JanMichael]

39. Did he wax poetically as to what the consequences might be?

Or did he leave it at that?

[julka]

40. don't they always just leave it at that, or.........

ask a question, to which the jerk answers with a huge, obvious lie, then they just go on to the next question, without ever following up.

unless, of course, you're Tim Russert asking a dem about something, then you attack with the tenacity of a mongoose going after a hooded cobra

[JanMichael]

43. They always went to the next step with Clinton.

Bush seems to be getting the kid gloves treatment.