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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:33 AM
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been away...Did the Kurds catch Saddam?
I can't search the archives, please provide a link.

Thanks!!!
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:34 AM
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1. Check current LBN
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:38 AM
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2. Yes, there are foreign reports that that is the case.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:42 AM
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3. no link for my opinion but
considering the thousands of kurds killed by saddamn, i find it hard to believe they would have turned him over if they caught him. i think they would have skinned him alive.
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zbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:51 AM
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4. Can you say bargaining chip?
How about an independent Kurdistan? Or, failing that, the 3 positions on the Iraqi Governing Council they just got? Tikrit and it's oil (ok, they won't get that from the greedy oil companies, but they will try)?

They aren't Westerners looking for instant gratification. Sounds like they are looking to the future (if this story is true, which looks like it just may be the case, IMHO).
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:52 AM
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5. I don't buy that mantra. Not every Kurd is a bloodthirsty savage...
...that couldn't control himself in the presence of Saddam.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to accept that a splinter group has the ability to keep their cool and use Saddam as a bargaining chip for a Greater Kurdistan and $25 million (Plus loan guarantees) to start the game.

Plus they can probably be well assured that we'll have him killed eventually.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:12 AM
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6. who is collecting the 25mil? i've seen no reference to that?
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:51 AM
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8. Don't know at this point. I've seen it mentioned that they'd...
...negotiated and I can only assume that they'd shoot for the cash.

This story is still a baby so we'll know more as it gathers steam...Unless of course it gets washed out by our pitt bull media.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:17 AM
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7. the Kurds are no worse or better than most people put in that position.
just a couple days ago, another bathist was hung up and stoned to death in iraq. the idea that the kurds would do the same to sadamn
seems as likely. the idea that he would live long enough to be passed up the line to anyone thinking about strategy is at least problematic.

if osama was discoved here, on the streets of NYC, i'd give even odds that he might not survive long enough to be turned over to the cops.
i'm saying the same odds, at least, apply to the kurds and sadamn.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:54 AM
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9. There's a difference between soldiers and a mob.
While they can be one in the same usually that's not the case.

"The Kurds" talked about in the reports are commando types, not civilians.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:55 AM
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11. Didn't the US abandon the Kurds
after the 1991 war? Don't you think they screwed Bu$hCo even better by sticking them with Saddam alive? If they gave us Saddam and let us kill him, then W would have been a big hero and Saddam wouldn't be around to cause trouble anymore. Now the only people he can cause a lot of trouble for is the US. I think it was a very clever move on the Kurds part, they screwed two birds with one stone.


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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:51 AM
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10. This story cannot be found
on CNN, Foxnews, MSNBC, or CBSNEWS. Why would the Kurds leave the $750,000? I think it must have been planted. The Kurds must have been paid the $25 million dollars. I informed a Bush lovin' acquaintance, and his reply was, "What's the difference?" That pisses me off sooooo bad.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:56 AM
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12. I have mixed feeling about it. While on one hand it makes...
...sense that a Kurdish para-military group siezed Saddam then negotiated his release to the US.

OTH what's up with the cash found there? Is that a lie? What about the two people detained on the site? Was that a coinsidence or lie?

Hopefully more will come of it today.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 11:11 AM
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13. Here's a report from last Sunday
He was caught napping

BAGHDAD, Dec 14 (AFP)

Saddam Hussein was captured before dawn today while sleeping at a house in his hometown of Tikrit, Governing Council member Mahmud Othman told AFP.

“Before four am (6.30 am IST), Qusrat Rasul Ali called me to inform me that his men along with the Americans had managed to capture Saddam Hussein as he slept in his hideout in Tikrit this morning,” Othman said. Rasul Ali, who was tortured by Saddam’s henchmen and is known as the lion of Kurdistan, heads a unit of special forces hunting down former regime leaders.

“I was sure the Kurds would catch Saddam Hussein because they have Arab friends in Tikrit, Mosul and the country,” said Othman, a Kurd himself.


http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/dec15/i2.asp

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