Republicans more likely to oppose interracial dating than Democrats

[_Jumper_]

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=754

"And members of both parties have become far more accepting of interracial dating (79% of Democrats, 72% of Republicans)."

[LiberalVoice]

1. Duh!

My experience with most repugs/conservatives is that they're racist...Not all offcourse, but most.

[Cat Atomic]

2. Republicans consider it "interracial" when

a white person of German descent dates a white person of Irish descent.

:P

[_Jumper_]

5. LOL!

n/t

[baldguy]

10. True.

German Irish mutt here!

[BringEmOn]

65. In most Republican strongholds

it means dating outside the family.

[NewJeffCT]

72. True

My mom used to work with an American of German descent whose wife was only half German (forgot the other half, but non-Catholic white European), so he would say that his daughter is 3/4 white.

[DarkPhenyx]

3. Not much of a spread.

Statistically it's a dead even race.

[_Jumper_]

4. I was surprised at how close it was...

...but at this is the first data I have seen that officially proves that Democrats are more tolerant. :bounce:

[DarkPhenyx]

9. Statistically speaking?

It dosen't really prove anything. The error rate alone could accoutn for the spread. it is entirely possible that, all things factored in, that Reps are more tolerant.

Sorry...I'm a cancer researcher and work with statistical probability and significance fairly regularly.

[_Jumper_]

12. Could the error rate account for a 7% difference?

Isn't the MOE usually 2-4%?

[DarkPhenyx]

16. 2 - 4% is for something like 95% accuracy.

7% isn't completely impossible. Even if it is only 4% then a 3 % difference really isn't all that great. Particualrly considering the historical background of the two groups being discussed. Let's also consider the make up of the group researched. Is the "Democratic" group more diverse? Is it possible that many of the people who are against interracial dating actually from a minority group? There is a lot more that needs to be looked into that isn't covered by the numebrs you presented.

[_Jumper_]

21. Interesting

Minorities are more pro-interracial dating. If minorities were included in those numbers that could mean that Republican whites actually could be more tolerant of interracial dating than Democratic whites. What could explain this? Class. It is unfathomable to believe that similarly situated Republicans are more tolerant than similarly situated Democrats.

[DarkPhenyx]

24. Are they?

My experience tells me otherwise. The few times I've dated a young lady from a non-white group I have received quite a bit static from her family.

Minorities can be just as racist as non-minorities. They also tend to be just as intolerant of dating outside their group.

[_Jumper_]

32. Yes, that is the case

Poll data confirms this, at least with respect to African-Americans and Hispanics. I haven't seen any poll data about Asians and Native Americans but their high interracial marraige rates indicate a tolerance of interracial marriage.

[DarkPhenyx]

35. All I can tell you is that...

...in my experience Blacks are just as intolerant. Having dated three women, who happened to be black, in each case I found this to be true. You would also find, I believe, that minorities are less tolerant of homosexuals within their own group.

[_Jumper_]

38. Poll data finds the opposite

This poll found that 93% of blacks support interracial dating. That is far higher than the number for whites.

[DarkPhenyx]

41. Wouldn't be the first poll...

...to be wrong, or at least inaccurate. This is why I don't follow polls.

<on edit>

remember, people are going to answer polls how they think they are expected to in many cases.

[_Jumper_]

43. I've seen several polls that show the same thing

I regard support of interracial marriage as the best indicator of racial tolerance so I have followed this a bit. I have never seen a poll where the white number is anywhere near the black number.

[DarkPhenyx]

45. The belief that minorities are more tolerant...

...is a grand falicy. Unfortunately this is true.

[_Jumper_]

46. Some minorities on here consider me an Uncle Tom

I am neither black or white. I have no agenda here. I have looked at many polls and this is what I have found. I challenge you to find me one where the white support for interracial marriage is within single digits of black support for it.

[DarkPhenyx]

48. I won't even try.

as I said polls, particularly on these kinds of subjects, are unreliable. Completely and totally unreliable.

[_Jumper_]

49. Provide any credible evidence to prove your assertion

n/t

[DarkPhenyx]

52. Unfortunately I have nothing bookmarked.

I will stand by my statement though. If you are a liberal you are very likely to give the liberally correct answers even if your true feelings aren't entierly in line with the "liberal mantra". The same holds true for conservatives and other groups. I think they have a name for it...um..."peer pressure"?

[_Jumper_]

53. Show me the evidence, pal

n/t

[DarkPhenyx]

55. you don't believe in peer pressure?

[_Jumper_]

56. Show me evidence proving that blacks are more racist than...

...whites and that liberals are more racist than conservatives.

[DarkPhenyx]

57. *laughing loudly*

Never said more racist did I? Blacks can be equally racist, so can liberals, gays can be equally biased, Japanese equally opressive of Koreans...and I hope you are getting the idea.

[_Jumper_]

59. They can but are they?

Provide an iota of evidence showing that they are equally racist in this area.

[DarkPhenyx]

60. Provide empirical evidence they aren't.

and that would be empirical mind you, not polls, not observations, good hard scientific fact.

[_Jumper_]

61. I've offered some information

Will you offer a single shred of evidence to support your claim?

[NewJeffCT]

74. Major Difference

There is a big difference between interracial dating and interracial marriage. Interracial dating might be looked at as okay by many, but I am guessing that if it came down to it, approval of actual interracial marriage would come in at a lower percentage.

But that said, I am white (though not white enough to have been eligible for the Hitler Youth if I was older) and married interacially and my family absolutely adores my wife. They certainly like her better than the two white women I had brought home to meet my parents previously.

[angee_is_mad]

69. Not true,

in every black family there is someone who is known to be gay. That person comes to the thanksgiving dinner and xmas brunch. The black family accepts that person, but they may not neccessarily accept that person's lifestyle. Therefore it is never mention or discussed. It is completely ignored, so it doesn't existance in their minds. They separate their relative from other homosexuals that they see.
Of course I am speaking in general and I am sure that there are unfortunate black homosexuals who has been disown by their family. Any black Du'er knows that the black church(as well as white)is full of gays and they start sermon off with a beautiful hymn every Sunday.

[DrWeird]

6. Still...

20-30% of the american people are flaming racist pricks.

[_Jumper_]

7. Sad but true

:(

But we are making progess, albeit very slowly:

[DrWeird]

11. Ahh, truly the "greatest generation."

Great my ass.

[_Jumper_]

13. Ditto

n/t

[DarkPhenyx]

17. look at that table though.

The vast majority of those people against it are in the older groups...IOW the groups least likely to change their world view. let's be serious...what would you expect?

[George_Bonanza]

8. My blood pressure!

A lot of Republicans probably oppose equal rights for blacks, much less merge with "their kind".

[_Jumper_]

14. True...

...but I am a shocked to see that the gap is fairly close. I expected at 15-20% gap like we see regarding homosexual marriage.

[DarkPhenyx]

18. and unless you can back it up with fact and numbers...

...your statement is just as bigoted as you claim tht they are.

[DrWeird]

20. Not true. Conservatives judged based on the color of skin.

We're judging conservatives based on the content of their character.

[DarkPhenyx]

25. No, in this case you are judging the entirety...

...of the conservative group based on their political affiliation. that is no better then them judging us based solely on our political affiliation. Or our belongiong to an Environmetnal group, or whatever.

[_Jumper_]

22. I can backup the statement about tolerance of homosexuals

n/t

[DarkPhenyx]

26. Be sure to include those people who vote Democrat...

...and are otherwise very liberal in their outlook but who just can't get past the gay thing.

[_Jumper_]

34. http://www.pollingreport.com/civil.htm

Time/CNN Poll conducted by Harris Interactive. Nov. 18-19, 2003. N=1,507 adults nationwide. MoE ± 2.5 (total sample).

.

"Do you think marriages between homosexual men or between homosexual women should be recognized as legal by the law, or not?"

Yes No Not Sure
% % %
ALL 32 62 6
Republicans 18 76 6
Independents 39 53 8
Democrats 38 59 3
Trend: .

7/03 33 60 7
10/98 29 64 7
9/96 26 65 9
6/94 31 64 5


Angeles Times Poll. Nov. 15-18, 2003. N=1,345 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3 (total sample).

.

"Would you support or oppose allowing same-sex couples to form civil unions that are not marriages, but would give similar legal protection in areas such as inheritance, taxes, health insurance and hospital visits, or haven't you heard enough about it yet to say?"

Support Oppose Haven't
Heard
Enough/
Don't Know
% % %
ALL 36 40 24
Democrats 42 36 22
Independents 36 37 27
Republicans 21 64 15
.

"Do you support or oppose allowing same-sex couples to marry, or haven't you heard enough about it yet to say?"

Support Oppose Haven't
Heard
Enough/
Don't Know
% % %
ALL 31 55 14
Democrats 34 54 12
Independents 30 54 16
Republicans 19 72 9
CBS News Poll. Nov. 10-13, 2003. N=1,177 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3 (total sample).

.

"Would you favor or oppose a law that would allow homosexual couples to legally form civil unions, giving them some of the legal rights of married couples?"

Favor Oppose Don't
Know
% % %
ALL 39 53 8
Republicans 23 71 6
Democrats 45 45 10
Independents 46 46 8

[DarkPhenyx]

36. You will notice...

...the nice sizable percentage of the democratic population that is against it.

[_Jumper_]

39. Yes but there is a huge gap between the parties

Why are you anti-Democratic?;)

[DarkPhenyx]

42. Oh, I'm not. I'm anti-political parties. they are the root of all evil.

However when we start to lump all conservatives into the same basket we need to remember this set of statistics.

[_Jumper_]

44. Why this matters

We need this to attract marginalized groups. Selling ourselves as the party of tolerance is crucial to our success.

[DarkPhenyx]

47. I agree.

Too bad that we, as a whole, screw it up so badly. The liberal end of the specturm is just as intolerant as the conservative, just in a different way.

[hadrons]

15. Actually I know a few African-American women who will date interracial and

they say they get hit on by (and date) Republican/Conservative guys all the time ... they don't get it either

[DarkPhenyx]

19. What don't they get?

That conservatives can be tolerant too?

[ecstatic]

23. I've been hit on by conservative white guys too

I don't think that all Republicans are flat out racists, many of them are not but they simply cannot see things from a non-white male point of view.

[DarkPhenyx]

27. There are a lot of black males...

...who simply can't see thigns from a non-black male perspective. there are a lot of women who simply cannot see thigns from anything but a feminist perspective.

[angee_is_mad]

68. Me too

but they tell me that they are independents(closet republicans). What is it that they tell me "ummmm I vote on the issues and not the party." Yeah right!!!

[DrWeird]

28. If Strom Thurmon taught anybody anything

It's that just because you've got the hots for a black woman it doesn't mean you're not a racist.

[DarkPhenyx]

29. And there is that too.

Then again it could eb said that jsut becasue you are a hot black woman dosen't mean you are racist and/or sexist.

[ComerPerro]

30. Well, yeah

I mean, obviously.

[Sterling]

31. You don't say?

:eyes:

[_Jumper_]

33. Have you ever seen any official data on that prior to this?

Or are we supposed to assume they are more racist based on stereotypes?

[BackDoorMan]

37. Like...who cares...(except for the republicans. And some others...)

28% of repugs still think it's an issue, (21% of dems?) Why?
Who can possibily be threatened? Man, they need some work.

[_Jumper_]

40. Apparently you do

:D

[max2000]

50. Hey, did anyone tell old Strom Thurmond

Oh, he probably didn't bother to DATE the poor woman. If you know what I mean......

[BargainMan]

51. No Kidding

What is the point.

[_Jumper_]

54. These are the first facts I have seen that indicate the GOP is...

...more racist. Stereotypes don't cut it IMO. Now we have facts to prove it.

[DarkPhenyx]

58. You obviously didn't look at the numbers then.

as I mentioned previously the numbers are statistically equal. IOW there is no difference.

[grok]

62. There is a difference, but it's minor

There a couple of anecdotes off the top of my head.. Don't PROVE anything ,but it is telling.

Clarence Thomas is married to a white woman from a violently right wing rich family, from the south.. Go figure.

The Bush family are intermarried with several latin strains in recent years. Cuban and Mexican among them.

* and Condi FAKE being an interacial couple in a car while waiting to fly to the fake turkey bash. From crawford, Texas to Baghdad. Somehow they think this now "normal". in Crawford of all places.

BTW, I wouldn't be surprised if * and Condi were fooling around. Repugs, if they get outed for messing around, it usually is with a trusted close aide. And they spend ALOT of time alone in discussion, btw.

Grok

[liberalcapitalist]

63. the VAST majority of the 21% of Dems who oppose

Are Blacks or other minorities... The VAST majority of racist whites reside in the Republican party.

[_Jumper_]

64. Nope

Only 7% of blacks oppose it.That means only 7% of that 21% is black. The numbers for Hispanics are similar to blacks. That vast majority of the Democrats who oppose it are white.

[CalebHayes]

66. DUH!!!

[_Jumper_]

67. The gap is only 7%

Obviously we cannot rely on stereotypes.

[Joe Momma]

70. this study is a revelation...

i never realized that the republicans i argue with every day may have prejudiced views re. race. just today, a guy i was talking to asked me if i knew who got clinton elected governor in our great state. i said no who? he said "you know". i said no who? he said "cmon, you know" i said no who?

i think i may know who he meant now.

[muriel_volestrangler]

71. I'm shocked that 21% of Democrats are still racist

how long does it take to get simple concepts into people's thick skulls?
And in the 'South', only 59% of the total population accepts it.

Note that 'all right' means 'completely agree' OR 'mostly agree'. Looking at the 1st graph on the referenced page, less than 50% completely agree. So over half of the country still finds a way to be racist at some time.

As a British Generation Xer, I thought that the plot of "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" was a little far-fetched - liberal couple throw their hands up in horror when their daughter gets engaged to a black man (when everything else about him is exactly what they'd wish for in a son-in-law). Now I'm beginning to see how entrenched racism was, and is, in large parts of America.

[Anaxamander]

77. Yeah, I was also shocked at how Brits...

...talked about Pakistanis when I visited. I've never heard such vile racism in my life, and I'm from south Georgia. Every country has its own share of backward assholes.

[OneTwentyoNine]

73. When will Repigs amend the Constitution on this??

Maybe they can tie this and gay marriages in one neat little Constitutional amendment package!!!!

David

[theboss]

75. This poll makes you feel good?

So approximately 25 percent of both parties are racist.

Um . . . yay! I guess.

Actually, the 79 percent number doesn't surprise me at all. I'm from a strong Union area. Lots of guys who wear hardhats to work. They wouldn't vote Republican if you promised them a new car in exchange for their vote. They would also lose their minds if their daughters dated a black guy.

[_Jumper_]

78. A bit

I detest the fact that so many people are racist but we as Democrats should be proud that we are more tolerant than Republicans.

[Jack Rabbit]

76. I'm actually quite pleased with this

After all, the difference is hardly significant and the acceptace could be called overwhelming. This is true in spite of decades of Republican appeals to the white racist vote.

I am a white man who was married to an East Asian woman for twenty years. We were married in 1979, had our first child a year later and a second one after another three years. We spent most of our time in California, within a fifty miles of San Francisco. This has long been a hospitable location for mixed couples. We had very few problems with neanderthals. They're out there, but not as plentiful or vicious as they once were.