new Wisconsin poll

[pruner]

Dean 33
Undecided 22
Lieberman 12
Clark 11
Gephardt 9
Kerry 6
Kucinich 3
Edwards 2
Moseley Braun 1

Dec 14-16. n=402 likely Dem primary voters. MOE±5

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/7521093.htm

[Democrats unite]

1. I've stopped looking at polls, they seem to be skewed lately

I am just going to wait now for the votes to be counted. After all thats what's really going to count.

[dajabr]

4. Skewed?

Or, just unfavorable to Clark?

How, specifically, are they "skewed?"

[Democrats unite]

7. Has nothing to do with Clark as HFishbine has pointed out.

And whats wrong with waiting for the vote?


on edit: HFishbine is right about skewed polls, not implying anything else.

[Tom Rinaldo]

8. If true, I don't find this unfavorable to Clark

Dean is ahead, no surprise. Undecideds come in second, my a significant margin. Lieberman edges out Clark, and Clark has a solid grip on third.

There are reports that Lieberman is running out of money. By the time the Wisconsin vote happens Lieberman may well be knocked out of the race. I don't think many of Joe's votes are going to Dean. Clark doesn't have Democratic political ties going back decades in Wisconsin the way most of the candidates do, yet he is more than holding his own in a state he has not put much energy into as of yet.

Clark is well positioned in Wisconsin to move up as other campaigns stagger.

[HFishbine]

5. Ain't that the truth

I put some stock in polls, not as a pure measure, but as an indication of trends mostly. But last night I thought I was in some sort of hall of mirrors while watching TV. It seems polls were a hot topic on the poltical shows last night and they were all over the map. Some examples:

Bush approval bounce only a few points.
Bush approval gets a huge lift.

Dean leads Kerry in NH by 30 points
Dean leads Kerry in NH by 7 points

Dean increses his national lead to 35%
Dean's national number declines to 23%

I think there is some major spinning going on right now and I'm casting a jaundiced eye at the polls until the rhetoric settles down.

[CMT]

2. I live here

and voluntered in Madison and Farmers Market and such and the thing is Dean has started early and run hard. This is pretty impressive since he had been running third in last poll behind Clark who led with 18% and Lieberman at 14%. Dean had 13%.

[Renew Deal]

3. It's the Gore endoresment.

It needs to sink in.

[tsipple]

6. This Poll is Post-Saddam

The Saddam capture announcement was early on the 14th.

Eyes on the prize, folks.