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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:57 PM
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Dean Leads Nationally in Two Polls
Dean Ahead in New National Polls
A poll from NBC/Wall Street Journal shows Dean leading naionally (November results in parenthesis.):

Dean 25 (15)
Clark 11 (17)
Gephardt 11 (12)
Lieberman 9 (11)
Kerry 5 (11)
Kucinich 4 (3)
Edwards 3 (5)
Braun 2 (3)
Sharpton 2 (4)
Margin of error: +/- 6%

The results are similar to a national poll from Rasmussen (results via Daily Kos):

Dean 26
Lieberman 13
Clark 11
Gephardt 11
Sharpton 7
Kerry 6
Braun 4
Edwards 3
Kucinich 1

Margin of error: +/- 4%
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:59 PM
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1. the first one has a really huge margin of error
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:02 PM
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2. Dean's doing great...


Just keeps getting more and more support... must be riving the bashers nuts!
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:03 PM
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3. lol!
;-) we can't get complacent though.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:04 PM
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4. meaningless before an actual campaign
just a reminder....
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:04 PM
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5. yes, of course, state primary polls count more than national polls
and Dean leads in most of them.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:06 PM
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7. primary polls have no bearing on a national poll
different sets of electorates. Remember that NH poll last week of Bush killing Dean?
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:08 PM
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9. yes, "bush killing dean" is basically for the general election
which hasn't happened yet. Also, at this point, clinton fared poorly against George H. Bush.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:15 PM
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10. Clinton was stronger than Dean, and the son stronger than poppy
I'll add that to a relative historic comparison.
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:20 PM
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13. you won't always have the strongest candidate *snicker*
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ToneE Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:18 PM
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11. NO kidding
LEADING WHAT? The Demo primary voters? Why don't those same voters look at how he fares against GW. That's the important thing.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:27 PM
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15. only polls that show Kerry leading are meaningful? :)
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:29 PM
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16. No. It's true of any poll
Few have set opinions on anyone. And they definitely change once a campaign dynamic begins.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:41 PM
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19. OK, good
Few have set opinions on anyone. And they definitely change once a campaign dynamic begins.

maybe i'll use that line the next time someone says Dean is "unelectable".
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:45 PM
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21. Tell it to General Clark
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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:05 PM
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6. Why this preoccupation with National, Media Driven Polls: Lieberman was #1

And, of course we dont' want Lieberman. The main thing these
"image recognition" polls show is relative vague perception of
who the media says in the winner.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:32 PM
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17. it shows that the Gore endorsement really helped
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:43 PM
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20. Gore's timing of the endorsement was exquisite
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:07 PM
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8. Bad for my guy. Clark's fading
I don't believe it. He's getting better on the stump and in the give and take. But he's suffering from Adlai Stevenson syndrome, too damn intellectual for elections.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:20 PM
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12. so you think clark is too smart to be president a la Gore?
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:21 PM
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14. Dean supporter who likes Clark a lot. How do you feel about
a Dean/Clark ticket? That's my dream team and a sure winner! The doctor and the general...<sweet>
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:37 PM
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18. or maybe too inexperienced
"too intellectual" meaning maybe he was so full of himself that he didn't bother to adequately prepare.

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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:45 PM
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22. Too intellectual?
Where has he demonstrated this?

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