Don't miss Bush press conference clip re: 9/11 advance warning

[Minstrel Boy]

From the press conference of Monday, Dec 15, 2003:

Q: "Howard Dean recently seemed to muse aloud whether you had advance knowledge of 9/11...."

A: "yeah" - shifty eyes, looking down and away - "uh...uh there's time for politics" - backing away, with a deer in the headlights look - "and I, y'know" - head shake, long pause - "jus' a time for politics, and ah" - another long pause - "I uh" - and another pause - "it's...it's an absurd insinuation."

Click right and save.

Is this the response of a blameless man? Looks to me like a man who, for an instant, can feel the walls close in.

http://images.indymedia.org/imc/washingtondc/media/video/6/9_11laugh.mpg

I played this for my wife, who's not a LIHOPer, and she said "Omigod, he is so lying."

[dajabr]

1. Oh, my, God...

I've seen four year olds caught raiding the cookie jar do better under questioning.

:crazy:

[DS1]

2. Evident Panic

Did you steal that candy bar young man? I uh, uh, I, uh

[morgan2]

23. he would be saying uh, uh, uh

if the question was what is his mother's name, his idiocy makes this meaningless.

[dkf]

3. Wow. He didn't do that very well, did he?

Hmm, maybe Dean is on to something here.

[gmoney]

4. Too bad the reporter didn't actually ASK the question!

All he asked was "Is this political hate speech?"

Maybe George heard it as "Is it true you had advance knowledge?"

(Hard to believe George has ANY knowledge, let alone advance...)

[mikehiggins]

5. This is very hard to credit

How can anyone watch this man in operation and not break into a cold sweat? This is why hundreds of our soldiers, and thousands of Iraqi's had to die?

[cthrumatrix]

26. because the media won't call him on his BS....

[tlcandie]

6. Still reminds me of Condi and her twitches with eyes that can't focus ..

while she's TRYING hard to hedge errrr lie about the answer.

[Cooley Hurd]

7. That's a subsurd assinuation...

Bush is speaking in tongues now - could the Four Horsemen be far off?:scared:

[knight_of_the_star]

8. Give credit where credit is due

Clark was challenging how Bush handled it FIRST. Dean just got the attention most liekly because of who he is.

[Minstrel Boy]

9. give it a rest...

This isn't another Dean said/Clark said thread. This is Bush said.

[Demobrat]

64. Thanks

*

[maggrwaggr]

11. OFGS can we leave candidate bashing out of at least ONE thread??

Tell it to the guy who asked the question at the news conference, not to us, doofus.

The point is Bush, not anybody else.

[knight_of_the_star]

10. Wow

He sounds like the reporter just accused him of murder.

[frogfromthenorth2]

33. Sorry, I don't see it as you all do....

Fact : Bush is a Dummy

And the fact that he is not able to answer is due to the fact that he doesn't understand the question and that he knows that he has nothing clever to say about the subject.

On Edit:

He is the rest of the question:

"Do you agree or disagree with the RNC that this kind of rhetoric borders on political hate speech? "

He is confused because he doesn't know what Rethoric means and what is a political speech.

[htuttle]

34. To summarize

What I hear you saying is that, "Bush isn't evil -- he's just stupid."

Well, I'll grant you the stupid part, but to me his reaction seems a few yards beyond merely stupid. The Moonie reporter gave him a path to a safe answer on a silver platter, but Bush was so obviously distressed about the question that he ignored the obvious softball answer and ended up in the ditch.

I think this is the most telling clip of Bush regarding 9/11 I've seen yet.

[frogfromthenorth2]

35. Not exactly...

What I am saying is that if you think that this clip is the smoking gun that proves he knew something before 9/11 I will tell it's nothing more than wishfull thinking.

[htuttle]

36. Have you ever tended a bar?

Driven a cab? Been a security guard? Worked with the general public in a large degree?

I have, and his reaction speaks volumes to me. I have seen that behavior before SO many times.

Of course this clip doesn't 'prove' anything in the legal sense. But to me, it proves that we need a real investigation to see if there is anything there. His reaction tells me there is -- think of it as 'probable cause'. I guarantee that if any of us gave an answer like that to a cop during a traffic stop, we'd find our car searched in a jiffy (and probably a sobriety test, to boot).

[seventhson]

51. demeanor evidence is used to prove things all the time

If it is "probative" meaning it tends to prove something -- then it is admissible evidence of guilt.

Bush's response tends to prove he is guilty IMHO. Is it proof beyond a reasonable doubt? When combined with other evidence it might very well be.

But that is for the appropriate judges to determine (i.e. the Hague)

[Jackpine Radical]

60. Go read Mark Crispin Miller's book

The Bush Dyslexicon. Miller shows how Bush can be perfectly coherent when he's talking about his favorite topics, like the death penalty & "smokin' em out," but falls apart verbally when he gets into unfamiliar/uncomfortable territory like "putting food on your family."

[frogfromthenorth2]

62. Very Interesting!

Will have to check that out.

[buycitgo]

70. excellent catch

Miller's book is so trenchant, and widely misinterpreted.
I asked David Frum (on a radio show) why we should believe crap like his book (didn't use that word), which portrays him as a brave, decisive leader, despite Frum's admission that bush is incurious, parochial, distant, short-tempered, etc. I also said that I believed the only decision he was making in the WH were what color socks he'd wear on any given day.

then, I said if readers wanted some real insight into dumbo's REAL character, they should read Miller's book. they cut me off at that point, at which Frum completely mischaracterized the BD, saying it made fun of his alleged stupidity. that is exactly the OPPOSITE of Miller's thrust. he says that Bush is anything but stupid.....intellectually lazy, uninformed, incurious, yes. but NOT stupid, and that he's quite good at getting his point across when, as you said, it's a topic to which he can warm up.

this was most obvious in that press conference, as well as the Sawyer interview, when he blabbed on and on about God, but went ballistic, flapped his wings about, made all kinda funny faces, when she asked him about the obvious conflict in WMD stories put out in the war runup, and what's happened since.

speaking of which, a co-worker today talked about her daughter's response to the last bit, saying that she was amazed at what a "jerk" he was, when trying to answer Sawyer, and how obvious it was to her (a high school freshman) that he was concealing something

[maggrwaggr]

12. one of the most bizarre reactions I've ever seen

Is he waiting for the response from his cronies who are speaking to him through his cochlear implant?

Or is he just going insane?

Why isn't anyone in the media pointing this out (besides here?)

[Sugarbleus]

76. LOL LOL... ' ...going insane...'

[proud patriot]

13. I just played it for my husband

"that SOB" is what came out of his mouth .

[pink_poodle]

14. Squirming. He looks like he's going to puke! Geez. -nm

;

[proud patriot]

15. That Question kinda rocked his comfy little world didn't it ?

[pink_poodle]

43. The other thing I thought was: he thinks of himself as this..............

god or demi-god and to question him is to rock his belief in himself - he looked like the guy punched the wind out of him - like he was flabbergasted that anyone should even think these things about him........so now if you see it from that perspective, it still makes him look guilty but "above it all and beyond question" which is even scarier........

[Sugarbleus]

77. Two words...

Narcissist and sociopath

[Syrinx]

16. this clip is too short

Well into the next question he had looks of dread and guilt on his face.

[punpirate]

17. Well, it's not exactly Captain Queeg's...

... strawberries speech in "The Caine Mutiny," but, it's getting there.... Note that he didn't even answer the question as asked--he didn't say, "No, I don't consider it hate speech, but it is political speech. It's bound to happen during an election year." Rather, he stumbled and mumbled, and then said it was an absurd insinuation.

I know a number of lawyers who'd have a field day with Dubya on the witness stand in front of a jury (something I think he's managed to avoid completely in his happy life).

Thanks for this catch--it's gonna get archived for future reference.

Cheers.

[Toucano]

18. What a transcript won't tell you.

The picture really is worth 1,000 words!

Really a decisive leader isn't he? I...uh...I...

Gosh, it wasn't even a tough question! Well, not for an innocent man anyway.

[frank frankly]

19. I am so relieved this issue is on the table

Dubya, oh, Dubya, you knew.

you knew.

you knew.

[NewJeffCT]

27. On the table for us, yes...

But, will anybody outside DU and a few other places even notice?

[Jim Sagle]

20. So what do we do now to force this to the top of the news queue?

[DeanIsAPitbull]

21. LMAO Dean owns Bush even through reporters!

Bush is going to get his ass kicked.

[Nlighten1]

25. I want to see this brought up during the debates...

and I want to see it driven home...any candidate who starts nailing Bush on specific points on his behavior on 9/11 will get my vote.

[buycitgo]

71. media will say that's unfair, making political hay out of national tragedy

will spin it so it seems *, once again playing the 'lowered expectation' game, deSPITE being the incumbent, is being attacked, denigrated, subject to out-of-bounds aggression.

just watch. they'll do ANYthing to rescue this twit.

too angry.....too negative.....that sort of thing

meanwhile the boiler room will be re-activated, and countless lies will be repeated, heedless of any sort of truthfulness, then amplified, spread to the winds, and repeated endlessly until the desired negative storyline is achieved and unwaveringly followed throughout the course of the selection process.

lots and lots of reporters adMITTED this storyline deal happened duringd the last campaign.


you could look it up

[w13rd0]

22. Interesting...

...we know he's not all that intelligent, but an innocent man might have come up with a better response. That reeked, badly. Notice he couldn't even look at the press corp when he muttered "absurd insinuation", he looked down and away. He's a friggin liar.

[SpiralHawk]

24. Paging Michael Moore + any honest journalists out there

Moore, save this clip for your 9/11 movie.

Journalists, get a tape of this and play it back for yourself four or five times. Then take a deep breath, and do your job:

Tell the truth without favor or malice. Just tell it.

"The hour it is getting late." - Bob Dylan


TWO RIDERS WERE APPROACHING, AND THE WIND BEGAN TO HOWL....

[Jawja]

28. Yes, very obvious!

I was watching a reply of this press conference on CSPAN last night and caught this moment.

He was thinking about that question during the next question and he squinted his eyes. It was chilling to see the expression on his face.

[OneTwentyoNine]

29. Hell,on the follow up question.....

Why didn't the reporter ask one simple question:

Isn't it true that John Ashcroft stopped flying on commercial airliners in the weeks or months before 9/11??

They sure as SHIT would have asked Clinton such a question.

David

[Stephanie]

49. Ashcroft Flying High

For our dittohead visitors.

www.msnbc.com/news/907379.asp?0cv=KA01
The Secrets of September 11
The White House is battling to keep a report on the terror attacks secret. Does the 2004 election have anything to do with it?

April 30 — Even as White House political aides plot a 2004 campaign plan designed to capitalize on the emotions and issues raised by the September 11 terror attacks, administration officials are waging a behind-the-scenes battle to restrict public disclosure of key events relating to the attacks.

<snip>Some sources who have read the still-secret congressional report say some sections would not play quite so neatly into White House plans. One portion deals extensively with the stream of U.S. intelligence-agency reports in the summer of 2001 suggesting that Al Qaeda was planning an upcoming attack against the United States—and implicitly raises questions about how Bush and his top aides responded. One such CIA briefing, in July 2001, was particularly chilling and prophetic. It predicted that Osama bin Laden was about to launch a terrorist strike “in the coming weeks,” the congressional investigators found. The intelligence briefing went on to say: “The attack will be spectacular and designed to inflict mass casualties against U.S. facilities or interests. Attack preparations have been made. Attack will occur with little or no warning.”

The substance of that intelligence report was first disclosed at a public hearing last September by staff director Hill. But at the last minute, Hill was blocked from saying precisely who within the Bush White House got the briefing when CIA director Tenet classified the names of the recipients. (One source says the recipients of the briefing included Bush himself.) As a result, Hill was only able to say the briefing was given to “senior government officials.”


www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A15957-2001
Summer Spinning
To GOP, Vacation Boosted Bush Agenda; To Democrats, Voters See a Shirk Ethic
Aug 29, <2001>

<snip>The White House had announced that Bush would stay at his 1,600-acre ranch in Crawford from Aug. 4 through Labor Day on Sept. 3, a 31-day stretch that would have broken a modern record for a presidential vacation, held by Richard M. Nixon for a 30-day trip to San Clemente, Calif., in 1969. News reports played up the record, and a Gallup Poll found that 55 percent of respondents thought Bush's vacation was too long.

The length of the trip revived old questions about Bush's work ethic, and the poll and the news coverage caused consternation in the White House. Aides said they had planned an ambitious schedule for Bush as long ago as late June, but reporters were not told about it, even after they landed here. The White House, suddenly defensive, took every opportunity to show Bush on the go and even created a "Western White House" logo for the briefing room at Crawford Elementary School. Bush revealed that his ranch had new video conferencing equipment for keeping in touch with his national security team.

www.jacksonholenews.com/Archives/NewsArchive/2001/010815-News.html
News story - Aug. 15, 2001
A Working Vacation
Vice President Cheney plans to fish, travel during month-long valley sojourn.
By Angus M. Thuermer Jr.

Vice President Dick Cheney took time off from his month-long working vacation Monday to outline his plans for August in Jackson Hole and to reflect on "an amazing year."

Cheney, who will live at his Teton Pines home about six miles west of Jackson until Labor Day, defended his energy policy, supported a local decision to limit drilling around the Gros Ventre Wilderness, recalled a life of service in Washington and said his health problems are not affecting his ability to fish for trout on his favorite Western waters.

www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml
Ashcroft Flying High
WASHINGTON, July 26, 2001

(CBS) Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart.

In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.

"There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines," an FBI spokesman said. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it.

[Q]

30. Why would a 'neutral' reporter call it 'hate speech'?

- This was a setup...more to discredit a Democratic candidate than get Bush* to answer a probing question.

- The RWing owns the media...don't expect them to search for the truth.

[Minstrel Boy]

31. A slow pitch from the Moonie Times,

but the reporter didn't get the memo: Don't mention prior knowledge!

And as has been said, the reporter didn't ask Bush what he knew; he asked Isn't Dean a hatemonger for suggesting such a thing? But even that was too much for Bush.

[Timefortruth]

38. What is interesting is that Chimp didn't even understand

that he had been given a golden opportunity to bash Dean but because he is too stupid to hold two thoughts in his mind at the same time (guilt and politics) Bush blew it.

If there were a real invesitgation he would fall like a house of cards.

[htuttle]

32. That is the most guilty-sounding answer I have ever seen

Ever.

From anyone -- even my kids.

I saved the clip.

[ScreamingMeemie]

37. The minute he shifted his eyes away I wanted to throw up.

:puke:

[AntiCoup2K4]

39. Let's keep this one kicked for all the "visitors"

If FAUX News, the WSJ, and the Dildo-heads are gonna read the board, let's give em something to look at.

Hey Repukes.... WHY DOES YOUR CHIMP IN CHIEF LOOK SO GUILTY HERE???

[PatrickS]

40. Bush Knew

Nothing else to say.

[Brewman_Jax]

41. He looks like a man trapped in a corner

Uh, oh! Uncle Dick didn't tell me what to say! What do I do?

[HFishbine]

42. Correction

I think what he actually said was, "s'ansurdsinuation."

[indigo32]

44. and that GD reporter

"Guess I'll follow up on something unrelated"...to a chorus of laughter!
We can't have * having a complete nervous break down on camara can we. Never mind the people who have died because of this POS.

[kentuck]

45. The importance of this is in regards to the 9/11 investigation..

that Bush is withholding documents from...

But Bush is not the only one that knows. There are others that know if the information was there to perhaps prevent the attack but they are covering their butts also. One might think Cheney and Rice would know.

My first impression when watching him try to respond was the thought, "I don't want to lie...so I will dismiss it as politics as usual". But it was a simple question. But he looked like the criminal in the chair of a Perry Mason episode when it has been discovered that he was the guilty party. Oh my God! They have discovered me!

[arwalden]

46. Not That It Matters... BUT...

It's always interesting to see how the Freepers try to explain-away or how they justify his behavior and how they try to gloss-over and minimalize events and words and actions that are VERY REVEALING.

How is Dubya's "act" playing over there? What do they have to say about it?

Are they ignoring the big white elephant in the room? Or did they admit to noticing it, yet they continue to make lame excuses for him?

-- Allen

[TNOE]

47. Yes - It's Playing out in Freeperworld just

as their masters have written the script for them. "It is ridiculous, the Dems are just bashing him because they hate him, everyone KNOWS he would not DARE scare the children - he couldn't do anything - and the old favorite - it was Clinton's fault.

And since when is asking who knew what when is characterized as hate speech? Ah yes, it is in the new Amerika.


Q. Mr. Pres., I know we're not supposed to ask political questions but Howard Dean suggested you may have had foreknowledge of September 11th. Do you agree with RNC head (Whatisname) that this qualifies as political hate speech?*

Bush (visibly panicked). Political... political... uh... insinuation. (End of response. Less than 10 seconds.)

[banana republican]

48. Remember Clark

When he got pissed off at the faux reporter over the "sideshow" issue. He damn near lost his temper and I don't blame him.

If I were accused as bush was I would be *PISSED OFF* no umm ughh arrr crap.

[never cry wolf]

50. Deserves a kick

Thanks for posting. Full press conf should be on cspan.

[Logansquare]

52. Whoa, that was weird n/t

.

[lebkuchen]

53. We could tell he was lying from the audio file

6,000 miles away

[jenm]

54. Bush Knew

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[Octafish]

55. Bush gave that reporter the most evil glare ...

....during the unrelated (big press corpse laugh) follow-up question. After a second or two, his expression smoothly morphed to its normal smirking countenance. But for a long moment, Bush wore a face out of the dock at Nurenberg in 1946.



Did Bushler experience a deja-vu?

[slinkerwink]

59. you mean this photo??

[proud patriot]

63. ewwww I hadn't seen that picture

[Octafish]

66. Nice glare that!

Thanks, slinkerwink! Photographic evidence of sociopathy.

I'm not positive if that's the moment, as the camera angle I remember was from the side, but that could very well be. The guy in the foreground must be "Stretch" or "Shiny Stretch" or WTFing nickname the unelected moron gives his captive press.

Note what happens if you cover up Bushler's face, one half at a time. The left side (Smirk's right) shows utter contempt. The right side (Smirk's left) shows abject fear. Both show a very small mind.

Thanks a lot for the windows on this soulless bed-wetter. The Little Turd from Crawford proves anyone can become President, provided their father was head of the nation's secret police and stood at the ready as vice president for a man suffering from Alzheimer's for most of two terms.

[Junkdrawer]

56. Kick

:kick:

[slinkerwink]

57. and THIS with the CBS news report about 9/11.......

[Cat Atomic]

58. Pathetic. The reporter was bashing Dean for "hate speech", but

was so stupid that he ended up putting Bush on the spot instead. Sadly, the only time you get meaningful exchanges from the White House Press Corps is when they beat themselves at their own game.

[Cocoa]

61. imagine Bush testifying before the Commission

he doesn't get to pick the questions, and the questioners won't let him give his usual non-answers. He'll have to give real answers for the first time ever.

[Demobrat]

65. Oh God

please let me live so long.

[Octafish]

69. "I refuse to answer on the grounds it may incriminate me."

Or he could restate:

"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September 11th.  Malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists themselves, away from the guilty."

— George W. Bush

No matter. Either way, the Little Turd from Crawford is a traitor.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/tyranny/

[Minstrel Boy]

78. you know, Octafish, that was the very first time

I thought something was fishy. (Octafishy?) I had been too stunned to process the events clearly, but when I heard him say "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories..." Huh - why did he just say that? What an odd thing to tell the world community, Mr Bush. That's the sound of someone protesting too much.

Shortly after, my oldest friend, a Toronto lawyer, told me in confidence how he had tried over the summer of 2001 to get US and Canadian officials to take seriously the warnings of his client, Mike Vreeland, and his "Let one happen, stop the rest" sealed letter.

Since then, nothing has seemed more outrageous than the official story.

[kath]

72. Only if they take away his earpiece, through which his handlers feed him

the answers to questions.

[wabeewoman]

67. Saw a clip on the news

of Diane Sawyer asking bush a difficult question and if looks could kill, she would have been dead.

[PaDUer]

73. Is there a link

for the Diane Sawyer interview? I only saw parts..I'd like to know what was said after the taping..I bet he told Diane Sawyer off because he definitely was pissed..Thanks!

[Cooley Hurd]

74. Here's a link...

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/video_index/video_index.html

It's down on the right side under "Live Events"

[AnnabelLee]

68. I never watch that POS

But I made an exception for this. I saw naked fear in his eyes.

[JohnyCanuck]

75. Keeping this one on the Front Page for our lurking freeper friends.

I am usually very leery of posts that try to read into someone's visible reactions in a video clip that they are lying or attempting to cover up some deep dark secret, but by golly this one is different. Damning is not too strong a word for that guilty look that crosses the lying weasel's face.

[Dhalgren]

79. Kick

Keep hope alive, as well as this post. Thanks