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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:20 PM
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This trend could be the beginning of the end.
To convince the sheep that we on the left are as evil as they claim, and to convince the RW wackos that whatever they wish to do to us is justified, they now only have to mine the rich veins of threads here at DU and other liberal forums - as they have been doing lately.

No matter how absurd the post, and how reasonably they are discussed and discredited by others, the worst of them (probably planted by freepers) will find their way to the lips of Limbaugh and the other RW megaphones - proving once and for all that we are the despicable America-haters and terrorist-lovers that the Ann Coulters proclaim us to be. I'm sure their audiences are duly repelled at our lowly, animal nature, lacking even the slightest hint of patriotism or love for our nation.

So much easier, when the next terrorist attack comes and martial law is declared - to round us up and place us behind the razor wire.

Is there a solution? Not unless average Americans demand some real changes in how we are governing ourselves and how our political system currently works. That doesn't seem likely in the present hateful climate.

We may soon be asked to make the decision that so many others have had to make throughout history - prison and/or death. Not here you say? That's exactly what all the rest said too - just before the truckload of soldiers pulled up to their door.

PS - I, in no way, believe we should modify our discussions because of this. Free and open discussion is what freedom is all about. I just think we should be ready for whatever happens.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:23 PM
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1. I would seriously not worry
The normal thinking republicans KNOWS that you can't go to a friggin online msg board and think that's how a group of ppl are.. trust me my parents are mega super christian republicans but they aren't sheep.


The only one's who buy what Rush says 100% are the ppl who would vote republican even if they found Bush sodomizing a goat on a highway.


It wont affect any swing voters or anything
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:34 PM
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2. I wish that was true.
I see the "evil unAmerican liberal" meme getting tremendous support and amplification through the millions of viewers, listeners and readers exposed to it every day. Every day it grows and become a larger part of the reality that exists in the minds of Americans.

Memes are far more powerful than reason. Look at all the cruelty that humans have dealt to each other consistently throughout history. Not old history either. In the last 5 months, about 50,000 Iraqi civilians have ben killed by decisions our governement has made - needlessly, unless BFEE hegemony is seen as justification.

If we are their only credible opposition, do you think they will continue to ignore us?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:03 PM
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4. I'm afraid I agree, msmcghee
Since when does reasonhave anything to do with propaganda?

And the Busheviks have a Propaganda Machine unparalleled in the history of humanity. One that can launder any lie, no matter how factually demonstrable, or obfusctae any truth, no matter how undeniable.

And I don't think they ever ignored us, once LIHOP 9-111 freed them from any morality codes imposed on Fatherland Agencies (FBI CIA OHS) during the Days of the Old Republic.

And yes, the Imperial Subjects of Amerika rae being manipulated like Soviets, and I'm afraid human beings don't change sufficiently enough throughout history that I have any hope that the vast majority will do anything but what their Masters tell them.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:57 PM
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3. Brit chats are saying the same thing as we are.
I still think this is the dying cry of the Far Right as the world is going liberal. Our beliefs are going world wide and the Right are slamming down the fist and getting really off the wall because of it. It is like grab anything you can while you can as power will be gone soon.We go in waves and the greedy ones have just about had it. I see another So am. country has voted to not let the corp take their oil. I saw in a NH paper where a corp was made to stop takeng all the water to sell in their bottle water company. They empty the springs to sell the water and take down all the local wells of water so of course you then must buy their water. Water wars will be bigger than the oil wars, mark my word.Poland Springs in Maine is starting to have this trouble. We have Billions in court cases where NAFTA is pushing Am companies. Some thing is ready to give.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:04 PM
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5. I tend to agree
They see it's now or never for them and that's why they are employing a scorched earth policy. If you need proof, just look at the worldwide protests against the war on Feb. 15. Do you realize how transformational that moment in history was?


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