OK, what's with the whole "HOLE" thing?

[skypilot]

Ever since Saddams capture the media have been harping on the fact that Saddam was found in a hole in the ground. It's been really interesting listening to the echo chamber at work. Hole this, hole that, "spider" hole, hole in the ground...I briefly entertained the thought of keeping count of how many times the word popped up but I soon realized I'd have my work cut out for me. Oh yeah, and the headline of my local paper:"U.S. Finds Saddam Hussein Hiding in a Hole".

[Mountainman]

1. I think it's meant to show how far he's fallen, from palaces to a hole.

It somehow shows our superiority.

I'm reminded that the North Vietnamese fought a whole war from holes in the ground.

[undergroundpanther]

7. Hole?

Don't forget,Cheney is hiding in a hole too.

The more I look at saddam the more I see people like him at home.
I truly think it's the bad people,people with no moral character,no sense of right or wrong,no empathy, who take bribes and lie....These are the types of people who go for corporate/ political power.I don't care if it's over in Iraq or herein America.It's the same sociopathic minds wanting to dominate trhe world.

Why didn't people like Jimmy Carter? Because he wasen't enough of a sociopath.Didn't aoppear strong enough he looked to human cared a bit too much,he upset the bigger assholes around him by showing a bit of integrity from time to time..

Genocide was committed here before Eugenics was invented here in America,and there were forced sterizations and "the people" did nothing to stop it..Our history is so ugly as ids every nation's history where asshole leaders did the thinking for the people..
If the likes of our leaders could get away with it,it would be like Iraq or China here. Saddam is at home too his name is Bush and his asshole is just more hidden from veiw than Saddams was..And the more "the people" don't stop and think,and they roll over like spaniels and use that selective memory to forget wrongs done to us, the more
"the people" begin to look like victims of stockholm syndrome to me.
And the more possible it is for Bush's inner Saddam to display itself openly at our expense.

Until "the people" seperate thier needs and happiness from a leader's will for the nation,and "the people"realize they elect morally corrupt ethically bankrupt people who are NOT eqipped for sane leadership we will find ourselves screwed up everytime.

Why do we look for"strong" "charismatic" "normal Joe" "upstanding" Smooth talking","religious" "good looking" "decisive" -those tell us what we want to hear- types of leaders? Are we not aware when we vote for people who's personalities are like this we are in essence we voting for sociopaths? Why do we not look at thier inner character and ethics in thier past behavoirs,why can't we elect leaders with a bit of humility,and humaness and instead looking for these false appearances?.How many Enrons ,fake wars,$300.00 toilet seats(remember the reagan pentagon budget fiasco?)Do we need to endure before we stop this game?When will we stop putting the truth in a memory hole and letting our leaders hide in holes to avoid being accountable to us? Be it a hole in the ground(Cheney & Saddam) or behind barracades(the white house),a refused sopeana(Enron), or a "private" sign on a corporate boardroom door(government corporate powers)Or a national debt hole.Holes are holes and whereever there's an asshole in power,there is sure to be someone somewhere stuck in some hole.

You need not be in a hole in the ground,But we are.. if you don't yet feel like everything is caving in upon you it will. All of us are in a hole,but some are falling faster than others so if it appears to you you are not falling,it doesen't mean we are not falling in...It can happen here.And it IS.It's just a matter of time until it touches YOU.
And feeling the impact of hitting the bottom of the hole will hit the true believers the hardest who never thought THEY would ever be like the least of us.Social darwinism has plenty of Assholes and HOLES in it..

These leaders and corporations leaders are RESPONSIBLE,for alot of the holes we find ourselves in these days.We are responsible for going into a hole they set us up to fall into,without a fight, without getting the whole story out of these leaders before we go where they point us.Leaders are the charismatic bad people.Alot of voters are uncurious, obedient,easy conned, busy people.This type of situation makes for a very dysfunctional political relationship.Look at that hell hole made from the recent Miami protests.How many of these assholes freeping around are aware of the depth of that hole?

These 'leaders' will hurt us with thier secret deal making and palm greasing antics behind closed doors. We are subjected to thier making bad decisions in secret bunkers underground. We blithely go along with thier writing of self-serving laws we think we must follow they hatched up in thier private meetings with other rich socopaths in thier high rise hidey holes we are never privy to.And of course we cannot say no to these "laws" because our "representatives" ass-hole has had his palm greased by these ass-holes behind some closed door hidey hole we are not privy to..And so in effect we are be-hole-den to bad corrupted people we elect for the image they project and now who they are. Why is the the 911 investigation is being holed up?? Why were Reagan's papers hid in a hole somwhere? Why is the Enron fiasco falling into a memory hole?

[GreenArrow]

Jes' like he said he would,

Dubya's smokin' 'em out of their holes!

I think that's why you're seeing all the emphasis on the "hole."

[Jackpine Radical]

2. I think that hole has teeth

and it's gonna bite the PNACers on the ass.

Like, if the insurgents were all Saddamites (I like that word), then why have they been maintaining the insurrection all this time? If the daily American body count rate doesn't decline, then what's this war all about? Obviously it's not just a few unrepentant Ba'athites trying to reinstall the ancien regime.

[Muddleoftheroad]

3. Animals hide in holes

It is to further degrade him.

[rock]

4. It's for bushsucks* benefit

You see, they figure if they keep repeating "a hole in the ground", that he might be able to make the distinction between where Saddam was found and any other orifice that bushsucks* might confuse it with.

[Minstrel Boy]

5. Is it all that different from Cheney's "undisclosed location"?

Of course, Cheney can enjoy greater creature comforts. Maybe even pheasant.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

6. "Watch this drive"

Bush loves golf.