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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:28 AM
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Lieberman using capture to boost his campaign...?
Sorry to those who support Lieberman but I think what he has said today on Meet the Press is nothing more than a cheap way to gain points in his losing bid for the white house...

(snip)
Lieberman: Well, you'd have to ask Al Gore that question. From my point of view, the last week has clarified the choice that Democrats and Independents who vote in our primaries have between Howard Dean and me. He will take this country backward to where we were before Bill Clinton transformed our party. I'm going to continue more determined than ever to fight for what's right for my party and my country. That means supporting middle-class tax cuts which he's opposed to, supporting fiscal responsibility, supporting a strong defense. And let's be real specific. On the question that we're celebrating today, Howard Dean throughout this campaign has said he wasn't sure that Saddam really represented a threat to us. At one point he said, "I suppose the Iraqis are better off with Saddam Hussein gone." I would say this, and this is a choice the voters have to make in the primaries. If Howard Dean had his way, Saddam Hussein would be power today, not in prison.
(snip)

Now...It's just my honest opinion that he is saying this drivel to do nothing more than to boost his numbers...a cheap shot at Dean at best...but that's just my opinion...

Any thoughts...or has this issue run it's course...?
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:30 AM
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1. I will not vote for Lieberman…
and I don't care what Will Pitt thinks about that.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:38 AM
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3. Anybody But Bush, But...
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 04:38 AM by AndyTiedye
If it turns out to be Bush vs Lieberman
I'll have to vote absentee
to avoid throwing up :puke:
in the polling place.
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:45 AM
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15. Ditto for me too!
EOM
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:18 AM
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20. Joe is the only one of the nine I would never vote for...
He should drop out-what an embarassament to the party, the nation, and humanity in general!
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:34 AM
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2. This guy is desperate...he's sinking fast
nt
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:28 AM
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13. oh? so it's ok for dean to use the iraq war as anl issue to fuel his
campaign but no one else can do the same thing?
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:40 AM
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4. No, he's using to boost BUSH's campaign.
:grr:
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:45 AM
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5. I thought about that...
when he said that if Saddam can't be sentenced to death there then he should be brought to the US for his trials...

One thought came to mind...if he was brought here than will the info that he has about the U.S. selling him "certain things" will not be allowed to surface...or used in court...?

Maybe I'm wrong on that one but I don't know...I'm sure BushCo would love to have Saddam tried in his backyard...
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:51 AM
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6. has this guy EVER taken a stand that is not in Israel's best interest?
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 04:52 AM by eablair3
I saw the news sound bite of Lieberman where he stated: "If Howard Dean had his way, Saddam Hussein would be power today, not in prison."

Yes, ... Lieberman, ... and 400-500 more American youngsters would still be alive to be with their families and raise their kids and live their lives. Thousands of Iraqis would still be alive, including many innocent men, women, and especially children. No telling how many more tens or hundreds of thousands of Iraqis will die and/or be born deformed in the next decade or two as a result of the the depleted uranium (radioactive) weapons that the U.S. left all over the battle field. In addition, thousands of young Americans would not have serious permanent debilitating injuries.

Saddam Hussein would still be in power and completely contained. His WMD rocket launchers on donkey karts couldn't reach any Americans.

And, speaking of WMDs, we would have found exactly the same amount of WMDs as we have now, and there would be no loss of lives.

Of course, taking Saddam out is very much in Israel's interest. Is that what's motivating Joe? Has he ever taken a stand that is not in the best interests of Israel? Ever? I know there are at least a few Lieberman supporters in here -- may be they can answer if he has ever taken a stand that is not in Israel's best interest.

What an ass this guy is.

And, Al Gore picked him to be his Vice President. No wonder Gore lost. What judgment Gore has. At least Gore seems to have learned, only, unfortunately for everyone, he had to learn the hard way.

I'm not a Dean supporter, but Lieberman has got to go. I just wonder if Lieberman's thinking is that if he cannot be the nominee, and if Howard Dean is, maybe Lieberman is thinking that it's better to sabotage and attack the Dem nominee and keep a very compliant-to-Israel Bush Administration in there? That would be better for Israel is what he could be thinking?

STOP THE MADNESS -- GET KUCINICH ELECTED!
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burning bush Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:56 AM
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7. Death Gasp
that's all. Don't worry about having to chose between Lieberman and Bush. Lieberman's desperate for attention. It's over for Joe.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:00 AM
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8. Well...I will say this...
I did have some respect for Lieberman because he's a member of the Democratic party...but after his comments today I have no respect for him now at all...

Sorry Lieberman supporters...but he is acting like a rethug...it's pathetic...
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:04 AM
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9. Are there any Lieiberman supporters here at DU?
I don't think I recall ever seeing a post supporing him. I think he's a Benedict Arnold.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:06 AM
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10. I have seen some before...
but none lately come to think of it...

Didn't want to piss off anyone...
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:43 AM
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14. yes, there are some here
they just are laying low, which is understandable.

I've seen jiacinto and a few others try to defend and support Lieberman in the past, although jiacinto claims to back another candidate, iirc.

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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:14 AM
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11. Addition by subtraction
He isn't boosting his own, just trying to tear down everyone elses.

It would be nice to have a candidate that appealed to people's intelligence rather than their idiocy.

Maybe there are too many idots for such a strategy to be effective.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:23 AM
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12. In a way, Joe is like Bush, old school/ If they not with you, tear um down
Pathetic/sad/too little too late/out of touch/doomed/history/dino/
did not cross the highway/
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 07:21 AM
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16. Joey Da Chin is a rabid Demopub!
Joe Blo wants Saddam tried in anything but an international court, because an international court will not impose a death sentence! An international court would provide a bond with other nations on the Iraqi war, which the rest of the world sees as open aggression on the US and UK's part!

Other Options:

Try Saddam in a US federal court or military tribunal and hand down the death sentence! This would inflame the Arab world beyond belief and make a martyr out of a scoundrel! It would expand further the real terrorist's support in every country in the world!

Turn Saddam over to an Iraqi Court and let the many factions(headed by hand picked flunkies appointed by the Bush administration)in Iraq other than Saddam's own criminal party impose a death sentence! This approach would end in civil war, before, or as soon as, the American troops pull out! If the US troops are extracted and the Civil war breaks out afterward, thousands will die in Iraq and the taxpayers will be forced to pay for further deployment of forces in the middle east!

Joe wants the same things Bush wants in the middle east it seems to me! That being an ENDLESS war on Terra!
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 07:25 AM
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17. Choice between Dean and LIEBERMAN!? Ahahahahahahah
He's really embarrassing himself. Lieberman will be good on our side as a senator for non-moral or foreign policy issues, such as the environment and race or gender-based civil rights, but as a president he would be incredibly disappointing, and would certainly lose to Bush.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:04 AM
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18. L on D: "said he wasn't sure that Saddam really represented a threat"
that is pathetic and twisted rhetoric (lie) on the part of LIEberman

desperate rhetoric can be dangerous and damaging

LIEberman should retire to the Nixon Center Board room ... he seems quite comfortable with his friends and fellow board members there.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:16 AM
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19. "choice... between Howard Dean and me"?
What are Clark & Kerry, chopped liver?

(Hmmm, chopped fried liver with onions...)
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:27 AM
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21. The arrogance of Lieberman as evidenced by that quote
Is truly apalling.

I am a Dean supporter but I would gladly take Kerry, Gebby, Clark, Edwards or any other real Democrat, however flawed re the IWR, before I would vote for that miserable, opportunistic man.
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